Marijuana = Sinfull?

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I think marijuana was put on this earth for people to enjoy in moderation.
However, it is illegal in this country.
Bottom line: to be a good Catholic, or even just a non-denom Christian, it is a sin for us to use marijuana.
That is all there is to it.🤷
 
I think marijuana was put on this earth for people to enjoy in moderation.
However, it is illegal in this country.
Bottom line: to be a good Catholic, or even just a non-denom Christian, it is a sin for us to use marijuana.
That is all there is to it.🤷
My dear friend

Recreational use is a sin because it’s an unnatural thing for us to do. Just because it comes from Mother Earth does not mean we should smoke it. Many things come from the planet that are harmful to us. This is too. I agree it’s a sin. Amen.

May God bless you friend:thumbsup:šŸ™‚
John
 
As we perceive God’s pure consciousness pervading all things, we understand more clearly that God has absolute control over all creation, and that each individual is already one with God, inseparable from Him. People are not aware of this because they are immersed in creation and the idea of materiality. They are deceived into thinking that disease (not being at ease, dis-ease) is real, and that the devil and sin are everywhere. Until a higher view is cultivated through prayer and purification of thought it will certainly appear that the devil can control our lives, but this is a false and temporary view because under God there can’t be a broken harmony in creation. Why do we manipulate people with sin?
 
As we perceive God’s pure consciousness pervading all things, we understand more clearly that God has absolute control over all creation, and that each individual is already one with God, inseparable from Him. People are not aware of this because they are immersed in creation and the idea of materiality. They are deceived into thinking that disease (not being at ease, dis-ease) is real, and that the devil and sin are everywhere. Until a higher view is cultivated through prayer and purification of thought it will certainly appear that the devil can control our lives, but this is a false and temporary view because under God there can’t be a broken harmony in creation. Why do we manipulate people with sin?
Never heard of the ā€œfallā€? :confused:
 
As we perceive God’s pure consciousness pervading all things, we understand more clearly that God has absolute control over all creation, and that each individual is already one with God, inseparable from Him. People are not aware of this because they are immersed in creation and the idea of materiality. They are deceived into thinking that disease (not being at ease, dis-ease) is real, and that the devil and sin are everywhere. Until a higher view is cultivated through prayer and purification of thought it will certainly appear that the devil can control our lives, but this is a false and temporary view because under God there can’t be a broken harmony in creation. Why do we manipulate people with sin?
My dear friend

For your answer I strongly recommend you read all my posts re my theory of the equilibrium here forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=325589 It should answer much of what you say.You won’t have heard it before either.

May God bless you:thumbsup:šŸ™‚
John
 
God is the strongest force so if we concentrate and walk with our Lord then the Devil has no power. Why give the Devil power by talking about it. We should praise our Lord instead. May we enjoy Happiness, Bliss in our Lord’s grace and rise above the negatives that bring us down.
 
All arguments and subtleties are irrelevant when you consider that it’s illegal under the Law of the land and officially a sin under the Catholic Catechism.

Rove
 
So let me get this straight…something can not be sinful until it is illegal and then it is a sin? a substance that grows naturally and has been used medicinally and recreationally for thousands of years is now demonized? it sounds to me like some of you are mixed up in dual-patriarchal tyranny of both the american government and God. Marijuana is far more innocuous and safer than alcohol or cigarettes and people should know this. Clearly it is not a gateway drug…this antiquated notion always pops up amongst people who’ve never tried any drugs before. Just like alcohol, if you use too much marijuana at any time it can be unpleasant. However, a couple hits of a high quality strain will make you feel at peace and alive while surfing, skiing, painting, writing, observing, boating, etc. There are many beneficial aspects of smoking marijuana that are now seeing the light of day.

Does anyone realize marijuana was first made illegal back in the 30s because our government was concered about giving a cash crop to encroaching mexicans and blacks? think about the financial hit that law enforcement, tobacco, and big pharma (who is pumping us full of legal drugs that are bad for us that we dont need) would take if marijuana became legal? this is not a question of morality, it’s a question of political motives. if any of you have never smoked marijuana, please try it for yourself before stating things that scientific reasearch has disproven: myths such as ā€œit’s bad for your health, it’s a gateway drug, etc, etcā€ read a website that’s not the DEA’s and you’ll get a better idea. anyone who thinks smoking some weed now and then is sinful behavoir is not embracing all that life and the earth is giving us.
Alcohol and tobacco are issues of their own. Their relative danger or lack thereof is irrelevant to marijuana. The legality of alcohol and tobacco (which is bound up in a whole host of factors not related to their dangerous nature) doesn’t mean that marijuana isn’t of itself too dangerous to be legal, due to the unpredictable amount of active ingredient one is getting among many other things.

Put it this way - opium poppies are natural and have been used medicinally for thousands of years as well. They are nonetheless dangerous - why? Because people who DON’T need their medical effects abuse them hdieously.

That’s why we’ve adopted a cautious attitude. On the one hand scientists have figured out the active ingredient, which is now manufactured in controllable and predictable doses and given ONLY to people in genuine need of their medicinal effects. On the other hand, their ingestion (apart from the non-narcotic seeds) otherwise is illegal.

For that matter, same with alcohol and tobacco. The production of cigarettes and alcohol is highly regulated, so you know how much nicotine (and for that matter most of the other chemicals) you’re getting per cigarette, and how much alcohol you’re imbibing per 100 ml of wine, beer, spirits. A lot of this is clearly labelled ON the bottle or packet moreover.

Now - tell me ONE medicinal and therapeutic effect that cannabis use has been proven to achieve that we don’t already have medicines - tried, tested, reliably delivered and predictable, and safer than cannabis - to achieve?

And then tell me, if cannabis DOES have therapeutic effects, why anyone in their right mind should be using an unpredictable delivery system such as taking it as natural herb? Why not instead lobby the pharmaceutical industry for straight THC products in the form of pills powders and potions containing the active ingredient?

Gee, that wouldn’t be because such products would need testing would it? And why would that be? Because we DON’T know that marijuana - or THC for that matter - is safe, or therapeutic, and if so at what levels it is both safe and therapeutic!
 
Alcohol and tobacco are issues of their own. Their relative danger or lack thereof is irrelevant to marijuana. The legality of alcohol and tobacco (which is bound up in a whole host of factors not related to their dangerous nature) doesn’t mean that marijuana isn’t of itself too dangerous to be legal, due to the unpredictable amount of active ingredient one is getting among many other things.

Put it this way - opium poppies are natural and have been used medicinally for thousands of years as well. They are nonetheless dangerous - why? Because people who DON’T need their medical effects abuse them hdieously.

That’s why we’ve adopted a cautious attitude. On the one hand scientists have figured out the active ingredient, which is now manufactured in controllable and predictable doses and given ONLY to people in genuine need of their medicinal effects. On the other hand, their ingestion (apart from the non-narcotic seeds) otherwise is illegal.

For that matter, same with alcohol and tobacco. The production of cigarettes and alcohol is highly regulated, so you know how much nicotine (and for that matter most of the other chemicals) you’re getting per cigarette, and how much alcohol you’re imbibing per 100 ml of wine, beer, spirits. A lot of this is clearly labelled ON the bottle or packet moreover.

Now - tell me ONE medicinal and therapeutic effect that cannabis use has been proven to achieve that we don’t already have medicines - tried, tested, reliably delivered and predictable, and safer than cannabis - to achieve?

And then tell me, if cannabis DOES have therapeutic effects, why anyone in their right mind should be using an unpredictable delivery system such as taking it as natural herb? Why not instead lobby the pharmaceutical industry for straight THC products in the form of pills powders and potions containing the active ingredient?

Gee, that wouldn’t be because such products would need testing would it? And why would that be? Because we DON’T know that marijuana - or THC for that matter - is safe, or therapeutic, and if so at what levels it is both safe and therapeutic!
My dear friend

Well said. :amen::sad_bye::bowdown::bowdown2::blessyou:

John
 
I am a patient prescribed to (marijuana) or cannabis I am not a dead beat or a drug addict. I care about my health a lot I run 2 miles a day and am a strict vegan 90 percent of the food I eat is organic I do not drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. I have a medical problem and I do not want to take pills to help me with my pain. I choose cannabis because it has never once caused an overdose, cancer, liver problems or many other side affects that are caused by all other drugs. Aspirin kills about 700 people per year but cannabis has not ever killed anyone. It could be considered the safest drug known. Scientist can not overdose lab rats using THC the active drug in cannabis. When you smoke a drug it works instantly you can take just enough and stop pills take time to dissolve there amounts are how much a drug co. put in a capsule not how much you need. Some times I wake up at night in pain I can take a couple of hits cannabis and go back to sleep and only be awake 5 min when I took pills I would sit in pain in a chair for a half hour weighting for relief and then have trouble going to sleep because of being fully awakened then waking up with a pill hang over or ā€œpill head.ā€

am i a sinfull?
 
How Dangerous is Marijuana 😃
Compared with other Substances?

Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals’ reports.

TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000

ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+

ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+

CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and triggering irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
ā€œLEGALā€ DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from legal, prescribed or patent medicines and/or mixing with alcohol - e.g. Valium/alcohol 14,000 to 27,000

ILLICIT DRUG OVERDOSE (Deliberate or accidental) from all illegal drugs. 3,800 to 5,200

MARIJUANA 0 😃
 
Thanks for the statistics. They show how our values in society are lead more by money than morality.
 
I am a patient prescribed to (marijuana) or cannabis I am not a dead beat or a drug addict. I care about my health a lot I run 2 miles a day and am a strict vegan 90 percent of the food I eat is organic I do not drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. I have a medical problem and I do not want to take pills to help me with my pain. I choose cannabis because it has never once caused an overdose, cancer, liver problems or many other side affects that are caused by all other drugs. Aspirin kills about 700 people per year but cannabis has not ever killed anyone. It could be considered the safest drug known. Scientist can not overdose lab rats using THC the active drug in cannabis. When you smoke a drug it works instantly you can take just enough and stop pills take time to dissolve there amounts are how much a drug co. put in a capsule not how much you need. Some times I wake up at night in pain I can take a couple of hits cannabis and go back to sleep and only be awake 5 min when I took pills I would sit in pain in a chair for a half hour weighting for relief and then have trouble going to sleep because of being fully awakened then waking up with a pill hang over or ā€œpill head.ā€

am i a sinfull?
My dear friend

Did Jesus say, " If you then who are evil…". Should we think ourselves good? Did He not say only God is good? God speaks through His church to us to tell us who are evil how to be good. If it’s genuine supervised medicinal use it’s fine, but for any other reason it’s sinful. If there was only one death from abortion each year would that mean it’s ok? We only have one life and must make the most use of it. We only have one chance to become a saint and go to heaven. We should not squander it.

May God bless you dear friend:thumbsup:šŸ™‚

John
 
My dear friend

Did Jesus say, " If you then who are evil…". Should we think ourselves good? Did He not say only God is good? God speaks through His church to us to tell us who are evil how to be good. If it’s genuine supervised medicinal use it’s fine, but for any other reason it’s sinful. If there was only one death from abortion each year would that mean it’s ok? We only have one life and must make the most use of it. We only have one chance to become a saint and go to heaven. We should not squander it.

May God bless you dear friend:thumbsup:šŸ™‚

John
so do you need a doctor to supervise you when you drink alcohol smoke cigarettes aspirin coffee and soda because all of these are far more harmful than marijuana 😃
 
so do you need a doctor to supervise you when you drink alcohol smoke cigarettes aspirin coffee and soda because all of these are far more harmful than marijuana 😃
My dear friend

You need a doctor if you smoke, asprin, coffe and soda are fine. If you feel drawn to weed you are really searching for God. Everything we do is a search for God. Sin is a search for God. Only God can satisfy us fully, fill the longing in our hearts. To satisfy this deepest yearning and craving for God we should seek Him and fill our hearts and souls with His presence, His life giving living love we call grace. This satisfies us, but not completely in this life. In heaven we realise the full benefit and effect of grace. There we shall be eternally satisfied and evermore be more and more satisfied as we explore the endless sea of love that is God and learn and appreciate more of the infinite love of God through eternity. But even now we can get very high on grace. This high is much better than weed, and results in the ultimate high which is heaven. Get high this way. You’ll be much happier , and much more satisfied.

May God bless you and make you high with Himself:thumbsup:šŸ™‚

John
 
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My instruction to you is for now not to discuss drugs at all. After a few weeks or months we can revisit the instruction.

i am sorry i am not aloud to post here anymore this is a copy of a private message.😃
 
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My instruction to you is for now not to discuss drugs at all. After a few weeks or months we can revisit the instruction.

i am sorry i am not aloud to post here anymore this is a copy of a private message.😃
 
due to the rules

#6 Do not view the discussion area as a vehicle for single-mindedly promoting an agenda.

i will not be able to post here for a couple of weeks or a month.😃
 
My dear friend

You need a doctor if you smoke, asprin, coffe and soda are fine. If you feel drawn to weed you are really searching for God. Everything we do is a search for God. Sin is a search for God. Only God can satisfy us fully, fill the longing in our hearts. To satisfy this deepest yearning and craving for God we should seek Him and fill our hearts and souls with His presence, His life giving living love we call grace. This satisfies us, but not completely in this life. In heaven we realise the full benefit and effect of grace. There we shall be eternally satisfied and evermore be more and more satisfied as we explore the endless sea of love that is God and learn and appreciate more of the infinite love of God through eternity. But even now we can get very high on grace. This high is much better than weed, and results in the ultimate high which is heaven. Get high this way. You’ll be much happier , and much more satisfied.

May God bless you and make you high with Himself:thumbsup:šŸ™‚

John
no i am not searching for god. i use marijuana for medicine. i an a medical marijuana patient and under a doctors care. are you searching for god when you take a aspirin for your headache. or a cup of coffee to wake up in the morning?😃
 
I hope that if I reach heaven one day, I’ll be able to sit down and smoke a spliff with Jesus…AND the apostle John…that guy was definitely on something…
 
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