Marijuana = Sinfull?

[CCHSstudent]

“We went out into the woods and smoked”

Have you ever notice that when we sin, or do something we really shouldn’t be doing, we do it in darkness? We do it hidden from view of others and ourselves? If I commit murder am I going to do it at the mall in clear view of everyone else? Or do I do it some place not to be caught or seen? The tragedy now becomes when we find others in the darkness and we do the sin hidden together. The the next thing you know we are justifying our actions to some how make a wrong a right. “They were always so happy and always laughed when they were high and we all had a good time. As odd as it sounds they are all on the Honor Roll at school, too, and are considered upstanding young men and women by everyone. I take pride to be in their company.”
We need to ask ourselves what we are truly doing. If smoking grass is not a sin, why do you hide? When you smoke grass are you not being intoxicated, or “high”? Being drunk is a sin, but getting stoned isn’t? Please keep yourself in the light and run from the darkness, run to Christ.

people smoke in public all the time. the only reason a lot hide, is because our government is tied in with the tobacco and alcohol industries, causing the potential threat to their businesses to be put to rest by being criminalized. its not in any way harmful. sure its not appropriate to do at certain times or ages, but it should be seen as a plant or remedy, not by any means a “DRUG”

 

[CatholicKing08]

Again, once the ignorance and irrational fear are removed from the equation, it is a social justice issue.

Exactly. Outlawing marijuana results in more evil than the legalization of the drug would ever bring about. Look at how the illegal drug trade has destroyed inner city communities all across the Western Hemisphere. If the profits were taken off the street, we would have less people dead, less violence, less people in prison, and more people making money legally via respectable means because I guarantee corporations would dominate the drug trade in no time and all the former dealers would have to find a new way to make a living.

Marijuana is outlawed for a reason–just not the reasons you hear. The real culprit is money, the new god of the United States of America. The prison industry is big business, think about how much money it would lose if drugs like marijuana were legalized. There would be way less crowded prisons, which would translate to smaller budgets and less jobs within the prison industry. Also, don’t count out the DEA, which makes $$$ by forcing drug cartels to give them a cut of the profits in exchange for not busting them. The DEA may arrest some people, but it never makes significant progress in reducing the flow of drugs because it has no incentive to do so.

 

[Hoosier]

I agree with what the previous poster said about the political aspects of keeping marijuana criminal. I think it should be decriminalized. I’m pretty libertarian, and think marijuana use is a victimless crime.

I would still support laws against impaired driving, just as with alcohol.

There’s legal, and then there’s sinful. Is the mind-altering aspect of marijuana more sinful than that of alcohol?

 

[stringbeanduck]

I agree with what the previous poster said about the political aspects of keeping marijuana criminal. I think it should be decriminalized. I’m pretty libertarian, and think marijuana use is a victimless crime.

I would still support laws against impaired driving, just as with alcohol.

There’s legal, and then there’s sinful. Is the** mind-altering** aspect of marijuana more sinful than that of alcohol?

Depends how mind altered one becomes. If you completely deprive yourself of the use of reason then it becomes grave matter. Obviously both have an affect on the brain, but in different ways. Alcohol of course, being the more violent, reckless, slothful way and marijuana being more so slothful than anything. These are things one must consider before they consume either.

 

[CCHSstudent]

so do you support or oppose it?

 

[stringbeanduck]

so do you support or oppose it?

You can say I support it, but only contentious use. Not free range being stoned all the time use. I think it deserves respect from both sides and not abused nor demonized.

 

[Realhf]

I would just like to say that on the first page of the bible it says that god created all seed Bering Plants saying they were good. And that just because something is law dosent mean it is a sin. Catholisism used to be illegal globaly during the late 4th century.

 

[exoflare]

I would just like to say that on the first page of the bible it says that god created all seed Bering Plants saying they were good.

Tell us where God says to smoke them. Also, by your logic we should be rubbing poison ivy all over ourselves because it’s a “good” plant.

 

[stringbeanduck]

Tell us where God says to smoke them. Also, by your logic we should be rubbing poison ivy all over ourselves because it’s a “good” plant.

Where does God tell us to smoke tobacco and and consume coffee? Just because God doesn’t command us to use something, doesn’t mean it automatically has no moral use. Also there are medical uses for poison ivy, most developed by the Native Americans. Although I would seek professional advice before putting these techniques into practice. Many plants have lot uses for humans the only difference is the effects, methods, and reason why they are used. I certainly wouldn’t smoke coffee, nor would I eat tobacco.

 

[exoflare]

Where does God tell us to smoke tobacco and and consume coffee? Just because God doesn’t command us to use something, doesn’t mean it automatically has no moral use. Also there are medical uses for poison ivy, most developed by the Native Americans. Although I would seek professional advice before putting these techniques into practice. Many plants have lot uses for humans the only difference is the effects, methods, and reason why they are used. I certainly wouldn’t smoke coffee, nor would I eat tobacco.

I agree with you, but I think you completely missed my point.

 

[scapularkid8]

(2) taking any substance that harms your body is wrong.

So Jesus, Mary, and all the apostles at the time were sinning when they drank wine at the wedding at Cana?
Abraham and Melchizadek were sinning after the battle at Salim?
The Trinity sinned when it accepted Abraham’s hospitality?
Where are you getting this list from? The air?

 

[LilyM]

So Jesus, Mary, and all the apostles at the time were sinning when they drank wine at the wedding at Cana?
Abraham and Melchizadek were sinning after the battle at Salim?
The Trinity sinned when it accepted Abraham’s hospitality?
Where are you getting this list from? The air?

There’s no evidence that any of these people drank anywhere near enough to harm themselves, so they don’t enter into the equation at all.

A crucial thing to remember about alcohol is that in moderation it is not only NOT harmful but has several very positive health benefits. Heavy drinking, however, DOES cause all sorts of harms, such as liver disease and brain damage.

It cannot be said of marijuana or any of the other illicit drugs that they are in fact beneficial in moderation, the best spin that can be put on it is that the jury is out on whether it is harmful, and even that might be stretching it - there seem to be some solid studies indicating otherwise.

 

[Stylites]

It cannot be said of marijuana or any of the other illicit drugs that they are in fact beneficial in moderation, the best spin that can be put on it is that the jury is out on whether it is harmful, and even that might be stretching it - there seem to be some solid studies indicating otherwise.

There’s undoubtedly been more physical harm caused from praying on one’s knees and doing prostrations than from marijuana use. The issue of this thread is marijuana, not “or any other illicit drugs,” by the way.

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[jmcrae]

There’s undoubtedly been more physical harm caused from praying on one’s knees and doing prostrations than from marijuana use. The issue of this thread is marijuana, not “or any other illicit drugs,” by the way.

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This is probably true - however, it’s also true that no one has ever died from a lack of marijuana, so, for as long as it remains illegal, it’s okay to refrain from using it.

If or when it ever becomes legal to use it, then you can go ahead and start using it in moderation, if that’s your pleasure.

 

[Stylites]

This is probably true - however, it’s also true that no one has ever died from a lack of marijuana, so, for as long as it remains illegal, it’s okay to refrain from using it.

If or when it ever becomes legal to use it, then you can go ahead and start using it in moderation, if that’s your pleasure.

Catholic social justice teaches us that when the punishment is far worse than the crime, then the law is immoral. Not to imply that anyone here gets their jollies or sadistic pleasures from cheering on or sneering at the pain or torments inflicted upon others in their name.

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[jmcrae]

Catholic social justice teaches us that when the punishment is far worse than the crime, then the law is immoral. Not to imply that anyone here gets their jollies or sadistic pleasures from cheering on or sneering at the pain or torments inflicted upon others in their name.

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As far as I know, the penalty for being caught with a small amount of marijuana is a fine, or something, much like the penalty for speeding. Obviously, dealers get stiffer penalties that include jail time, but I don’t think there is any torture involved with that.

 

[karoleck]

Smoking marijuana is NOT a virtuous act or one that gains merit-it is not something you can offer up in your morning offering prayer.“I offer You all my prayers,works ,joys and sufferings of this day”
I would maintain smoking marijuana is at least a venial sin–the reason being that it can take away our reason.A person “high” on pot does sometimes laugh a lot–not because things are “funny” in themselves; but rather their perception of reality alters.It is a well proven fact that many people admitted to hospitals for mental health issues,had been smoking marijuana.In some person it trigggers a mental disorder.The Fifth Commandment requires us to reasonably look afer our health;smoking anything is bad for our lungs-why do it?
Since it is a venial sin-a mortal sin if "stoned out of our brain) then we are inviting the devil into our lives-that is never a good thing to do.Taking an illict drug could bring an evil spirit to take possession of our souls-I am taking about mortal sin where a person deliberately looses the control of reason.It is no accident that many serious crimes are committed by people taking illict drugs;one of the effects of mariuana is that our senses are intensified-this includes the sensual faculties,so keeping chaste will be that so much harder.Again why take the risk of offending God,who is alreadt much offended…

The Reality that GOD IS,is the best high-a natual one.As the Palms say—’'When I see the Heavens and the Earth that You have made–what is man that you care for him–yet you have made us little less than a god!!"

Is not smoking marijuana a little bit like being tempted to eat of the forbidden fruit–the devil wispers your eyes will be opened—just like the thread starter spoke about–it was like seeing the world again for the first lime–BUT IT COMES AT A PRICE–better work towards Heaven when you will see the splender of Truth!!

 

[Stylites]

Smoking marijuana is NOT a virtuous act or one that gains merit-it is not something you can offer up in your morning offering prayer.“I offer You all my prayers,works ,joys and sufferings of this day”
I would maintain smoking marijuana is at least a venial sin–the reason being that it can take away our reason.A person “high” on pot does sometimes laugh a lot–not because things are “funny” in themselves; but rather their perception of reality alters.It is a well proven fact that many people admitted to hospitals for mental health issues,had been smoking marijuana.In some person it trigggers a mental disorder.The Fifth Commandment requires us to reasonably look afer our health;smoking anything is bad for our lungs-why do it?
Since it is a venial sin-a mortal sin if "stoned out of our brain) then we are inviting the devil into our lives-that is never a good thing to do.Taking an illict drug could bring an evil spirit to take possession of our souls-I am taking about mortal sin where a person deliberately looses the control of reason.It is no accident that many serious crimes are committed by people taking illict drugs;one of the effects of mariuana is that our senses are intensified-this includes the sensual faculties,so keeping chaste will be that so much harder.Again why take the risk of offending God,who is alreadt much offended…

The Reality that GOD IS,is the best high-a natual one.As the Palms say—’'When I see the Heavens and the Earth that You have made–what is man that you care for him–yet you have made us little less than a god!!"

Is not smoking marijuana a little bit like being tempted to eat of the forbidden fruit–the devil wispers your eyes will be opened—just like the thread starter spoke about–it was like seeing the world again for the first lime–BUT IT COMES AT A PRICE–better work towards Heaven when you will see the splender of Truth!!

If your concern is to avoid the devil then you should consider the fact that all the saints were assailed by the devil by their proximity to God. Supposedly they all should have dropped the pursuit of grace, which is God’s life within us, if all they were concerned with was avoiding the devil at all cost.

People needlessly laughing is a concern, too? Would that everyone could look at God’s creation with mirth and joy.

Declaring there is no merit? That would be a presumption, and a judgment reserved to God alone who alone can look at motivations. There are millions of people throughout the world who use marijuana for spiritual reasons. Praying a rosary might or might not have any merit, based upon what the motivation of the user is.

Bad for the lungs? Don’t ever enter a church whenever incense is being burned, nor consider that marijuana can also be eaten, or vaporized rather than burned. If one’s concern is for health then why not ban tobacco and alcohol which are far more dangerous? Or ban praying on one’s knees which can severely damage the body?

When all is considered, marijuana prohibition is another social justice issue which needs to be addressed without superstition, irrational fear, envy or ignorance.

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[Stylites]

As far as I know, the penalty for being caught with a small amount of marijuana is a fine, or something, much like the penalty for speeding. Obviously, dealers get stiffer penalties that include jail time, but I don’t think there is any torture involved with that.

Yes, in some locations it’s de facto legal as long as it isn’t consumed in public. Then there are other locations in the U.S. where even having a seed is punishable by a decade in state prison.

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[Realhf]

Tell us where God says to smoke them. Also, by your logic we should be rubbing poison ivy all over ourselves because it’s a “good” plant

k well first of all your a dumb ***, obviosly there is a negative side to everything. also where in the bible does it say not to smoke? Also alchohol used to be illegal from 1920-1923 until the government desided they were stupid. It’s only a matter of time before marijuana will be legalized. If you do some research on why marijuana was made illegal you will find out that it was based upon rasism.