Mark of the Beast - Clarity

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Scandinavia. Its very small chip, smaller than a grain of rice. Its implanted by injection in the soft tissue between index finger and thumb. Easily extracted. Can’t feel it when its there. Volunteer basis.

I’m just tired of constantly losing my credit card and electronic keys. I want something that I can’t lose and can’t be easily stolen.
 
Methinks the only mark Jesus will see is what is hidden in our hearts.
 
If you believe in bible,if you believe in what is said in Revelation,there is absolutely no doubt …
Your claim that “there is absolutely no doubt” is something of an exaggeration. Your interpretation of verse 18 would be more accurately described as one conjecture among many. For example, in this 520-page commentary on Revelation by a Catholic priest, verse 18 gets a little over a page. The author lists several interpretations that have been attached, at different times, to the number 666, and concludes: “The number is probably no symbol at all, but a mere cryptogram to be deciphered in Antichrist’s time.”

https://www.amazon.com/Book-Destiny...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1548029759&sr=1-1
 
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I had already said-There was and is a tendency to interpret the simple,direct meaning of what is clearly said in the Bible for the ordinary people of that times to read and understand, as something complicated so as to assign any meaning as per the convenience of the interpreter when he finds that the normal meaning may look inconvenient to propagate his views or are somewhat wrong and improbable in the light of the knowledge and scientific advances of the later period.For example,the 6 day creation theory- people believed it to be correct till a centuary ago but now says that the meaning of ‘day’ mentioned in the Genesis is different when it has now become clear that Earth could not have been created in just 6 days!
Such tendencies are most deplorable and is the work of the Devil.Only solution is to pray to God to give the mind and strength to believe what is said in the Bible to be true verbatum,be whatever the factors opposing for such belief.
 
I am a devoted Catholic.One of the few parishioner couples going to mass daily.In respect of scipture verses where Church’s clear teachings are not there as in this case,I only go by the literal,direct and ordinary meaning of the verses,and believe it,come -what-may.
 
A typical case of unnecessarily making simple things said in the Bible as complicated and making confusion!
How clearly and plainly it is said that the.mark of the beast is 666.!
Thats all.Just check at that time whether this number is marked on you with your permission.You are doomed.The matter is so simple. Don’t try to complicate which is Devil’s work.
True story: the address of a nearby home close to where my friend lived was no other than 666. After the house sold to a new neighbor, the neighbor requested a new address for his home because he didn’t want his address to be 666 because it was the mark of the beast. Within 6 months after address had been changed to 668, a mysterious fire broke out in that home and caused extensive damage. It was joked that the devil wasn’t pleased with the change of address.
 
Who funded the communist party to create the Russian Revolution in 1917 ? The big banking families who control most of the world’s wealth .
 
I apologise if this thread has been brought up several times, but I’m still puzzled. Is the Mark of the Beast as mentioned in Revelation supposed to be symbolic or is it a micro chip? Or will we never know?
I’m of the belief that the mark of the beast, as it is described in this passage, is referring to those in Jesus’s time period. Those who would not recognize Caesar (the emperor) as Lord, were cut off by the Jewish synagogues, from any financial dealings.

The mark itself is the exact opposite of those who were marked with the “seal of God” on their foreheads.
 
If it is something to come, whatever it is, you’re not going to get it by accident. What makes it sinful is it makes apostasy a condition of being able to enjoy certain social advantages, like buying and selling. In the time of the early Church in pagan Rome, certain tickets, exterior marks, or coinage was obtained after sacrificing to the idols, and these permitted one to engage in commerce.

The point is, unless receiving it is conditioned on committing apostasy, it isn’t the mark of the beast.
 
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to believe what is said in the Bible to be true verbatum,be whatever the factors opposing for such belief.
I am a devoted Catholic.One of the few parishioner couples going to mass daily.In respect of scipture verses where Church’s clear teachings are not there as in this case,I only go by the literal,direct and ordinary meaning of the verses,and believe it,come -what-may.
I pray that you will open your heart to the teachings of Holy Mother Church. We are not “sola scriptura” people. The Church gave us the Bible, it can only be read in the light of the Church.
 
The church gave the Bible! OMG! Pl.re examine before saying such blunt and erroneous things.
 
while the general message of Revelation is true (ie. resurrection of the body, end of the world, etc.) the details aren’t necessarily true, and Revelation (and all biblical prophecies) are intended to (at least in some degree) be fulfilled shortly after their delivery, so the Beast ought to have occurred within a few hundred years of the visions, historically Emperor Nero is thought to be the one who is indicated (his name in Greek totaled to 666, while in Hebrew it totaled to 616 (what some manuscripts indicate as the number)). While we ought to be on a lookout for anything too demonic taking over as currency, etc. it may not be literal (just as there is no rapture, and the Antichrist and Thousand-year reign don’t literally exist, the Church has long considered the Chrisitan Era to be indicated by the Thousand Year Reign),
 
I second David Currie, whoever mentioned it. He makes good points regarding Marking and Sealing.
“I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.” (Jer. 31:33)

No serious scholar of Jeremiah assumes that God meant He would write the words of the Law on their hearts with a ballpoint pen. Nor could “the law within them” be something an X-Ray machine could detect. The loyalty of the New Covenant, which is the focus of this beautiful passage in Jeremiah, is an inward commitment of the will that manifests itself in the way we live.

(Rapture: End Times Error that Leaves the Bible Behind, p. 297)
Currie adds that the Mark or Seal on the forehead refers to the way we think, and the hand refers to the things we do. These are the Mark of the Beast or the Seal of the Lamb.

(He adds that Jesus was Sealed in John 6:27. So why would it look different on us than it did on Him?)

Could a Mark or a Seal be a physical manifestation? Well, yes. But it would have to support the decision of the person, not make it for him.

Let’s use the ubiquitous Left Behind series as an example. (I like to think that the last 20 years, on and off, of toiling over the books might be useful to someone somewhere.)

Their Mark of the Beast is:
  1. a tattoo …
  2. of a barcode …
  3. which encodes a multiple of 6 …
  4. and is located on the body wherever a microchip was implanted …
  5. on a consenting person (more or less).
It covers all known bases, but it can be construed as overkill: like James Bond swallowing poison whilst juggling knives whilst playing Russian Roulette whilst jumping out of an airplane without a parachute into an active volcano.

Their Seal of the Saved likewise is very involved. Revelation 7:3 and Rev. 22:4 says The NAME will be written on their foreheads. In L.B. it isn’t The NAME at all. It’s a 3-D cross … that only other Saveds can see … but you can’t see your own … and no Unsaved can see it. (I am not aware of any of those descriptions being in the Bible, but hey, that’s just me.)



So here’s the real issue. It’s about choices. Everyone in L.B. who gets the Seal knows what they are getting, and wants it. But many of the people in L.B. do not know what they are getting when they choose the Mark of the Beast. (It certainly is not advertised to them as such!) Instead, they get it because The Antichrist character wants them to get it. It serves both as loyalty oath and as a replacement for physical money.

But why do they want to pledge loyalty to him? The answer is twofold. The Antichrist becomes a politician so that he can grab power more efficiently. And the result is that people follow him. “And people marveled after [The Politician] and said, Who is like unto [The Politician]? Who can do what [The Politician] does?” That’s why they get marked. They often don’t figure out who he is until long too late.

Yes, tagging people with microchips, numbers, markings, and so forth is dehumanizing and therefore dangerous. But I think our choices are the most dangerous factor of all. Choose wisely.
 
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Rev.14:9 " If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark upon his forehead or upon his hand , he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God which is poured unmixed into the cup of his wrath . " etc.
I saw a person get anointed with oil on a feast day and an impression of a ring showed up on their forehead where the oil was. Like someone had pressed a wedding ring into their forehead. It was there for hours.
Likely, if you belong to God, the angels have no problem picking you out of a crowd.
 
At any rate much much later after the major portion of the Bible was out for reading and understanding by the people.So’the church gave us the Bible’ is a misstatement. It is also relevant to note that while there are thousands of books of commentaries/ interpretation of the Bible, there is no official interpretation by the Catholic church.For obvious reasons.They are words direct by or inspired from God for understanding by the ordinary people of that time and not any code language meant only for certain experts to be interpreted and explained to people.
So the correct approach is to go by the plain ,direct ,ordinary meaning of the verses and not to twist and interpret it for the convenience of each.Ofcourse there could be some apparent problem if one go by the direct meaning ,for which the only solution is to seek God’s grace.
 
thats obviously a figure of speech which even a child could understand.
It also gives us an insight into how God feels about sin .
 
During the Decian persecution, the policy of the Empire was that every person had to sacrifice to the gods of Rome and procure a libellus certifying this fact. Those who lacked libelli risked imprisonment or death. As a result, a few Christians succumbed to the pressure and sacrificed, and many more bribed Roman magistrates to provide fake libelli for them. The Church condemned both as apostates, but after the persecution admitted both to Penance upon their Confessions. Even so, the penance was much more severe for those who actually sacrificed, as they were prohibited from receiving Communion until near death, while the forgers were readmitted after a few years.

Still, the Greek word used in Revelation is “charagma,” which means a tattoo or brand, so I am convinced this refers to a future persecution where libelli will be tattooed or burned into the skin of those loyal to the Antichrist. As for why none repent after taking it, I can only quote Revelation that “All the inhabitants of the earth will worship [the Beast], all whose names were not written from the foundation of the world in the book of life, which belongs to the Lamb who was slain.”
 
Do you have any references to Catholics, or Church Fathers, Popes, Doctors of the Church, respected Catholic writers, who taught the “Rapture + Tribulation”?

These articles will introduce you to the Catholic teachings and the variety of opinions we may hold WRT Revelation.

https://www.osv.com/TheChurch/Artic...-Four-ways-of-approaching-the-Apocalypse.aspx

The interpretation according to Fr Ratzinger wrt the Fatima Secret

http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=360178

There are many books that will help unfold why these “Rapture” and “Pre/Mid/Post Trib Dispensationalists” are errors. All can be picked up for a few dollars used on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Rapture-Trap...9019&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=the+rapture+trap

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AJVCHBK/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

https://www.amazon.com/Will-Catholi...sr=1-1&keywords=will+Catholics+be+left+behind

Another excellent study

https://www.amazon.com/End-Revelati...8339102&sr=1-2&keywords=scott+hahn+revelation

This study Bible may help

https://www.amazon.com/First-Second...8339102&sr=1-4&keywords=scott+hahn+revelation
 
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