Sorry but no, that’s not correct. At least not traditionally or historically. To be both “Western & Eastern” simultaneously presents an insoluble dichotomy.
Further, it is incorrect to say that we “follow the orders of Rome.” We are, for better or worse, in communion with Rome, but we are NOT, whether traditionally or historically (and some would venture to say even legally) speaking, under Rome.
It’s true that there was never a formal “break” in Communion… Beyond that, I won’t comment.
Where is this church?
most maronite churches do, go to one. Ive been to ones all over the USA and in Lebanon. With you all the best but Im not fighting for my faith. Now I understand why people say things about catholics who are non catholic, not welcoming or loving. WEll, whatever the faith Jesus said love one another as I have loved you. Wish you the best brother BYE
The unfortunate fact is that very little is done in Syriac. Three things are mandated: what is called the “access to the altar” (and which, due to Novus Ordo-inspired neo-latinizations, is now a misnomer), the Trisagion, and the Institution Narrative. Beyond that, (and a few hymns here and there, and even those are rearely, if ever, done in the truly traditional manner) it is exceedingly rare, whether in the Patriarchal Territories or in the diaspora, to hear anything else.
What is NOT rare, however, and equally unfortunately, is to see Novus Ordo-inspired neo-latinizations run amok.
Ever been to Italy and visited the Italo Albanians? They are extremely Latinized,to the extent the Ruthenians were pre Vatican II.
When we speak of the Maronites, Italo-Greeks, or whoever else, having or not having “that honor” of being always been in communion with Rome, there is a danger of missing the more important things. In particular, something far more important is that it was a case of an entire church remaining (or entering) full communion with Rome freely – not one of the many sad cases of a church being ripped in half for the sake of communion with Rome.
Yes , most definitely .
Do these RC priests who serve the Maronites actually know the Qurbono? Do they know at least the requisite parts in Syriac?
In some cases, the priests are formally bi-ritual, but of course that doesn’t mean they “know” much of anything beyond the basics and perhaps some rote. (BTW, that’s the same for a good number of Maronite priests too, but I digress.) In other cases, the visiting Latin clergy simply do their own Novus Ordo.
In some cases, the priests are formally bi-ritual, but of course that doesn’t mean they “know” much of anything beyond the basics and perhaps some rote. (BTW, that’s the same for a good number of Maronite priests too, but I digress.) In other cases, the visiting Latin clergy simply do their own Novus Ordo.
I presume you mean “Syriac priests” generically and mean those in union with Rome. If that’s the case, the answer is … yes, there are. It’s actually quite common, but the second part of the “bi” is normally latin. Perhaps the most common are the Syro-Malabars where most priests are bi-ritual.
It was a joint seminary in Mosul (Iraq). It’s history now.
It was a joint seminary in Mosul (Iraq). It’s history now.
You cannot simply just go say a Maronite mass if you’re a Latin priest - it would require episcopal permission. And just like the Armenian and Syriac Orthodox could concelebrate a liturgy for whatever purpose, that doesn’t make the Armenian a Syriac and the Syriac an Armenian - that’s simply the definition of communion. Apologies if this is a belated response, but I think it’s still relevant.
