Martyrdom: Are you ready?

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Do you have what it takes to be a martyr for the faith?
First, you may want to ask do you have what it takes to openly profess your faith? If you’re unwilling to cross yourself and say grace before meals in a restaurant because of embarassment, shouldn’t you work on that first before worrying about martyrdom?
 
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Madia:
First, you may want to ask do you have what it takes to openly profess your faith? If you’re unwilling to cross yourself and say grace before meals in a restaurant because of embarassment, shouldn’t you work on that first before worrying about martyrdom?
Those things are indeed acts of martyrdom – you are bearing witness when you publicly show your faith.

Not all witnesses are called to sacrifice their lives for the faith – most of us are called to witness in the way we live.
 
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Madia:
First, you may want to ask do you have what it takes to openly profess your faith? If you’re unwilling to cross yourself and say grace before meals in a restaurant because of embarassment, shouldn’t you work on that first before worrying about martyrdom?
Amen! I totally agree. The reason being that I must constantly remind myself of this or I will fall back into hiding my faith. Our faith must be proclaimed boldly with our lives!

I pray that the Holy Spirit would give me the strenth to die to myself everyday, to pick up my cross and to follow Jesus.

Praise Him!!!
 
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thistle:
I guess many, including myself, would like to think they do but that is a question which can only be answered such a time comes. It cannot be answered in advance.
I agree. Thomas More, in a conversation with his daughter, is reported to have said – pointing to his own chest – “This is not the stuff martyrs are made of.”
 
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BayCityRickL:
Do you have what it takes to be a martyr for the faith?
No one does- but everyone will if the time comes for them to do it, and they pray for that grace.
 
It would be WAY too easy for me to die painfully for my faith in Jesus Christ and His Church.

What is truly tough is, as St. Therese of Lisieux pointed out, to die the daily “martyrdom of p(name removed by moderator)ricks” - for example, putting up not with violent persecutors, but with annoying jerks. Try driving the interstate.
 
Besides being a devout Catholic, my second belief is being a devout coward. I take the “deliver us from evil” part of the Our Father very literally.

In a crunch who knows how I would act. I have a very low threshold for pain
 
Mr. Knight,

Courage is a virtue. Therefore cowardice is a vice and not a quality I would brag about possessing.

Martyrdom is something to be practiced every day. If we can’t stand in a picket line holding a Pro-life sign, how can we expect that we’ll actually die? If we can’t take the ridicule around the water cooler for being Catholic how do we think we’ll handle true martyrdom?

Practice courage in the small things, and God will give us courage for the big things.
 
“Christians must be ready to die, indeed have their children die, rather than betray the gospel. … Christians are not called to be heroes. We are called to be holy.”
  • Stanley Hauerwas, theologian
 
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trumpet152:
I’d hope I’d be willing to die for Christ. In the mean time, I’ll just keep trying to live for him.
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Our priest would say its just one swoop of the ax. I pray that God gives me the grace to die a martyr. Probably the only way I will glide straight into heaven.
 
Our priest would say its just one swoop of the ax. I pray that God gives me the grace to die a martyr. Probably the only way I will glide straight into heaven.
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Rather than worrying about your “reward” of getting to heaven, maybe you should worry about simply doing God’s will.
 
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JGheen:
The problem with being a living sacrifice for God is that you are constantly tempted to crawl off the altar . . .
How true!

But it is the small sacrifices of everyday life that build in us the fortitude needed for martyrdom.
 
I don’t think I would have a problem dying for my true beliefs. I agree with Martin Luther King Jr. that if there isn’t something that you’re willing to die for you really don’t deserve to live.

How about a little spin on the question though?

Are you ready to watch your spouse or one of your kids die for their faith?
 
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Madia:
First, you may want to ask do you have what it takes to openly profess your faith? If you’re unwilling to cross yourself and say grace before meals in a restaurant because of embarassment, shouldn’t you work on that first before worrying about martyrdom?
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Black Jaque:
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wcknight:
In a crunch who knows how I would act. I have a very low threshold for pain
Courage is a virtue. Therefore cowardice is a vice and not a quality I would brag about possessing.

Practice courage in the small things, and God will give us courage for the big things.
At least he gave an honest answer for at the moment of truth, none of can know with any degree of certainity what our actions will be. I’ve seen brave men freeze up with fear. I’ve seen cowards afraid of their own shadow come to their aid.
 
Sir Knight:
At least he gave an honest answer for at the moment of truth, none of can know with any degree of certainity what our actions will be. I’ve seen brave men freeze up with fear. I’ve seen cowards afraid of their own shadow come to their aid.
Well. That is true. In the Marines, we train everyone the same. Everyone talks the big talk, but when bullets start wizzing by it changes a lot. Some of the biggest talkers will cry like babies. And the quiet guy who never really says anything may charge right in.

You never know. But we should all strive to be the one guy standing tall in the open, despite the mortors and machine guns going off all around him. When asked if he is crazy he responds “God has appointed my time to die. If it is not my time, I wear the invincible armor of the Lord, and no bullet shall kill me.”

I can say, as long as I am in my right frame of mind, I would endure to the end. If Jesus could do it for me, I certainly could do it for him. The suffering of this life doesn’t matter. No matter how painful. Everyone’s number one goal should be to strive to be a saint, and to help others do the same.

I have thought about this before, and it would break my heart more than anything knowing that I denyed the Lord and my faith for my mortal life. Why would I do that? I am going to have to be judged eventually, and there is no better way than standing before God and saying “No matter what they did to me Lord, I have endured the end out of love and faith for you.”

Many of the early Christians welcomed death. We place too much value on what we will lose eventually anyway, our lives.

Geez, did I sound like Solomon or what? I am really NOT that morbid, I was just trying to prove a point.

Adam
 
Most people and myself included cannot stand the thought of even rejection. Although I have grown in this area for quite some years, I haven’t experienced total rejection from EVERYBODY all of the time. Rejection goes against our pride…and when we can be fools for Christ, it is then I believe, and when the time is right, the grace would be given to you to die for the Faith. Many of our Saints have ecperienced much rejection in their lives…loneliness was their daily companion. Loneliness that would be described in a wordly way. Yet, these very Saints were united with the suffering Christ! The darkest night is when we feel that Christ seems to reject us. All part of a process of holiness…
 
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ncjohn:
Are you ready to watch your spouse or one of your kids die for their faith?
One honorable woman was…

2Mac.7:20-41
The mother was especially admirable and worthy of honorable memory. Though she saw her seven sons perish within a single day, she bore it with good courage because of her hope in the Lord.
She encouraged each of them in the language of their fathers. Filled with a noble spirit, she fired her woman’s reasoning with a man’s courage, and said to them,
“I do not know how you came into being in my womb. It was not I who gave you life and breath, nor I who set in order the elements within each of you.
**Therefore the Creator of the world, who shaped the beginning of man and devised the origin of all things, will in his mercy give life and breath back to you again, since you now forget yourselves for the sake of his laws.” **
Antiochus felt that he was being treated with contempt, and he was suspicious of her reproachful tone. The youngest brother being still alive, Antiochus not only appealed to him in words, but promised with oaths that he would make him rich and enviable if he would turn from the ways of his fathers, and that he would take him for his friend and entrust him with public affairs.
Since the young man would not listen to him at all, the king called the mother to him and urged her to advise the youth to save himself.
After much urging on his part, she undertook to persuade her son.
But, leaning close to him, she spoke in their native tongue as follows, deriding the cruel tyrant: "My son, have pity on me. I carried you nine months in my womb, and nursed you for three years, and have reared you and brought you up to this point in your life, and have taken care of you.
I beseech you, my child, to look at the heaven and the earth and see everything that is in them, and recognize that God did not make them out of things that existed. Thus also mankind comes into being.
Do not fear this butcher, but prove worthy of your brothers. Accept death, so that in God’s mercy I may get you back again with your brothers."
While she was still speaking, the young man said, “What are you waiting for? I will not obey the king’s command, but I obey the command of the law that was given to our fathers through Moses.
But you, who have contrived all sorts of evil against the Hebrews, will certainly not escape the hands of God.
For we are suffering because of our own sins.
And if our living Lord is angry for a little while, to rebuke and discipline us, he will again be reconciled with his own servants.
But you, unholy wretch, you most defiled of all men, do not be elated in vain and puffed up by uncertain hopes, when you raise your hand against the children of heaven.
You have not yet escaped the judgment of the almighty, all-seeing God.
For our brothers after enduring a brief suffering have drunk of everflowing life under God’s covenant; but you, by the judgment of God, will receive just punishment for your arrogance.
I, like my brothers, give up body and life for the laws of our fathers, appealing to God to show mercy soon to our nation and by afflictions and plagues to make you confess that he alone is God,
and through me and my brothers to bring to an end the wrath of the Almighty which has justly fallen on our whole nation.”
The king fell into a rage, and handled him worse than the others, being exasperated at his scorn.
So he died in his integrity, putting his whole trust in the Lord.
Last of all, the mother died, after her sons.
 
You see, death is not the end. If we are afraid to hand over our lives to the almighty, all-seeing God, who will believe our witness? We must be a people of resurrection faith. We will emerge from the tombs when we hear our names. We will get life and breath back. We have already died with Christ in our baptism. The question is not how horribly we will die, but rather, how we will witness to our resurrection faith as we step into eternal life.

Martyrdom is a great and powerful gift. Many souls are won through it because of the faith proclaimed in that final act of witness to the promise of our loving God. What a gift to be able to exchange mortal flesh for immortal flesh to the glory of the Name of the Lord! We know his words are true, and may we be filled with the strength to testify with our flesh.

Ez. 37:1-14
The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley; it was full of bones.
And he led me round among them; and behold, there were very many upon the valley; and lo, they were very dry.
And he said to me, “Son of man, can these bones live?” And I answered, “O Lord GOD, thou knowest.”
Again he said to me, “Prophesy to these bones, and say to them, O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones: Behold, I will cause breath to enter you, and you shall live.
And I will lay sinews upon you, and will cause flesh to come upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and you shall live; and you shall know that I am the LORD.”
So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone.
And as I looked, there were sinews on them, and flesh had come upon them, and skin had covered them; but there was no breath in them.
Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, Thus says the Lord GOD: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.”
So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood upon their feet, an exceedingly great host.
Then he said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, `Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.’
Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people; and I will bring you home into the land of Israel.
And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people.
And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land; then you shall know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I have done it, says the LORD.”
 
Black Jaque:
Mr. Knight,

Courage is a virtue. Therefore cowardice is a vice and not a quality I would brag about possessing.

Martyrdom is something to be practiced every day. If we can’t stand in a picket line holding a Pro-life sign, how can we expect that we’ll actually die? If we can’t take the ridicule around the water cooler for being Catholic how do we think we’ll handle true martyrdom?

Practice courage in the small things, and God will give us courage for the big things.
I did say that tongue in cheek … I hope not to be put in that situation, but IF the situation called for it, I doubt I would hestitate to do what needs to be done… what ever that may be and no matter what the consequences.

Marching with a sign is one thing, no big deal, been there, done that. Facing persecutions, tortures etc as the real martyrs is a different story. I pray I have the stuff that real martydom requires, but who knows how anyone will react when confronted with the real deal.

The folks who talk the loudest as someone else mentioned, are sometimes the first ones to turn and run.
 
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