Mary did die and is buried

[brigantine]

He came here because he wants to share his beliefs. He doesn’t go off about how the Church is evil or anything like that. Besides, if you find Paarsurrey offensive (and Muslims), why don’t you find Protestants and Jews offensive? Or is it just bigotry?

Last time I check if I go to England, Australia, Japan, Singapore, France, Israel, etc… I will not be killed for talking about the Lord Jesus Christ!

You know nothing about the ahmadis, do you? Oh, and if Turkey, which has been Turkish for hundreds of years now, is occupied Greece, than that part of Greece was occupied Scythia back when the Greeks had it.

Listen could the ahmadis if they become the dominant muslim population in a country be the first muslims to treat other religions with respect? Yeah sure, but I will go by the track record of islam and the piles of dead bodies of minorities in their countries as my reference point.

LOL the Scythian! I believe the populated the far eastern part of the Anatolian Peninsular and north around the Russian Steppes. I believe some Slavic people may have Scythian DNA in them now. In any case are you saying that the destruction of the Byzantine empire and the occupation of Constantinople are somehow justified? How about the genocide of the Greeks that lived there for the 500 years after the occupation? Like I said I will go with my views of muslims based on how they act when they become the majority!

 

[Cluny]

I think Mary did die and is buried in a grave.

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What you think doesn’t matter. It’s what the Church says that matters.

The Theotokos did die and was buried by the Apostles in the Garden of Gethsemane, but by the third day, her body was taken up to be reunited with her soul, which Jesus (in His resurrected Body) came down from heaven to receive.

 

[Thing]

More is known for certain about the Loch Ness monster than about this topic. It may surprise one to know that the Loch Ness monster is in fact real. It has been well documented and I just want to say I am fully prepared to argue or debate the Loch Ness monsters’ existence with Paarsurrey.
Thankyou

St. Columba (also known as “Columcille”) was born of the O’Donnell Clan in Garten, County Donegal, Ireland, on December 7, 521; he died on 9 June, 597. In between, he founded monasteries in and evangelized Ireland and Scotland. The story of his meeting Nessie – said to have taken place in A.D. 565 – was first recorded by Adamnan in “The Life of Saint Columba” sometime in the late 7th Century. An excerpt:

CHAPTER XXVIII

How an Aquatic Monster was driven off by Virtue of the Blessed Man’s Prayer.

On another occasion also, when the blessed man was living for some days in the province of the Picts, he was obliged to cross the river Nesa; and when he reached the bank of the river, he saw some of the inhabitants burying an unfortunate man, who, according to the account of those who were burying him, was a short time before seized, as he was swimming, and bitten most severely by a monster that lived in the water; his wretched body was, though too late, taken out with a hook, by those who came to his assistance in a boat.

The blessed man, on hearing this, was so far from being dismayed, that he directed one of his companions to swim over and row across the coble that was moored at the farther bank.

And Lugne Mocumin hearing the command of the excellent man, obeyed without the least delay, taking off all his clothes, except his tunic, and leaping into the water.

But the monster, which, so far from being satiated, was only roused for more prey, was lying at the bottom of the stream, and when it felt the water disturbed above by the man swimming, suddenly rushed out, and, giving an awful roar, darted after him, with its mouth wide open, as the man swam in the middle of the stream.

Then the blessed man observing this, raised his holy hand, while all the rest, brethren as well as strangers, were stupefied with terror, and, invoking the name of God, formed the saving sign of the cross in the air, and commanded the ferocious monster, saying, “Thou shalt go no further, nor touch the man; go back with all speed.” Then at the voice of the saint, the monster was terrified, and fled more quickly than if it had been pulled back with ropes, though it had just got so near to Lugne, as he swam, that there was not more than the length of a spear-staff between the man and the beast.

Then the brethren seeing that the monster had gone back, and that their comrade Lugne returned to them in the boat safe and sound, were struck with admiration, and gave glory to God in the blessed man. And even the barbarous heathens, who were present, were forced by the greatness of this miracle, which they themselves had seen, to magnify the God of the Christians.

 

[LDNCatholic]

Also, you guys should know that paarsurrey is an ahmadi, which is distinct from regular Islam. Ahmadis are persecuted in the Middle East just as much as anybody else.

The Ahmadiyya aren’t really present in the Middle East, their movement is more limited towards Indians and Pakistanis and the diaspora of those peoples in the West.

 

[Mark77]

How can you love Jesus and Mary if they are dead and buried?

If Jesus was just a prophet and is dead and buried that means Jesus was a liar and a fraud.

It means that the 1 billion Christians were led astray to a false teaching!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

 

[swariffin]

The RCC teaching is “Mary was raised to heaven with her physical body”. It does not say that Mary never died, or died first, resurrected, and raised to heaven". That is in accordance with John 11:25-26.

 

[paarsurrey]

I think Mary did die and is buried in a grave.

Hi

Thank you for confirming it.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

Yeah that’s true! I guess I just assumed I would get intellectual conversations with these guys the same as you get with other religions. I have to try and keep in mind being intellectual is not something islam supports and not get so upset.

Hi

For the intellectual and more phiosophical readings , one may like to read the following treatise written by Second Coming 1835-1908:

alislam.org/books/philosophy/1q7.html
alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

I love Jesus and Muhammad

Thanks

 

[Fludgecow101]

all he did was state what he believed in. she/he didn’t try correcting us or anything. while this belief shows disrepect for Mary and Jesus to us, her belief shouldn’t (at least this one) offend us. maybe sadden or annoy, but not offend. bashing ain’t gonna really help to change someone’s mind too.

 

[paarsurrey]

all bashing ain’t gonna really help to change someone’s mind too.

Hi

I agree with you. One can only win with love and rational reasons, sound arguments and with sincere prayers to start with.

i love Jesus and Mary as I love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

all bashing ain’t gonna really help to change someone’s mind too.

Hi

I agree with you. One can only win with love and rational reasons, sound arguments and with sincere prayers to start with.

i love Jesus and Mary as I love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

all he did was state what he believed in. she/he didn’t try correcting us or anything. while this belief shows disrepect for Mary and Jesus to us, her belief shouldn’t (at least this one) offend us. maybe sadden or annoy, but not offend.

Hi

I agree with you.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Hi

I think Mary did die and is buried in a grave.

I believe that Jesus also died and is buried in a tomb at Mohallah Khanyar, Sirinagar, India, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

paarsurrey, you are living proof for all “PROTESTANTS” AND “NON CATHOLICS” to just confess a belief in Jesus Christ does not make you a saved Christian, thank you for diproving the man made theology of “Sola fide”, for even the “Serpent” and his demons believe in Jesus and Mary and have been condemned to the pit of hell for eternity.

If you love Jesus and Mary, you would follow him, and not just profess his name as do the evil one to decieve.

You know you should report your findings of Jesus and Mary to world news and maybe your claims might get taken more seriouslessly.

Peace be with you.

 

[kathygleeson27]

How can you love Jesus and Mary if they are dead and buried?

If Jesus was just a prophet and is dead and buried that means Jesus was a liar and a fraud.

It means that the 1 billion Christians were led astray to a false teaching!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark

Have you ever hear of the CITY OF GOD BY Blessed Mary of Agreda?? I do not mean St. Augustine’s CITY OF GOD. another good book to read.

The CITY OF GOD IS 4 volumes which explains the IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, THE INCARNATION, THE TRANSFIXION, AND THE CORNATION. I have read these books so many times, Agreda wrote how Our Lady appeared and explained her blesssed life with her Son, St. Joseph The founding of the Catholic Church etc. I keep learning about my Catholic Faith, how Our LADY was instrumental in Our Lord’s work to bring Knowledge of the Truth to all. I pray to the Holy Ghost to enlighten me each time I read these 4 volumes. It is an on going process, studying one’s faith, one never stops.

 

[paarsurrey]

Have you ever hear of the CITY OF GOD BY Blessed Mary of Agreda?? I do not mean St. Augustine’s CITY OF GOD. another good book to read.

The CITY OF GOD IS 4 volumes which explains the IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, THE INCARNATION, THE TRANSFIXION, AND THE CORNATION. I have read these books so many times, Agreda wrote how Our Lady appeared and explained her blesssed life with her Son, St. Joseph The founding of the Catholic Church etc. I keep learning about my Catholic Faith, how Our LADY was instrumental in Our Lord’s work to bring Knowledge of the Truth to all. I pray to the Holy Ghost to enlighten me each time I read these 4 volumes. It is an on going process, studying one’s faith, one never stops.

Hi

I think Paul/s never cared for Mary; if she was alive and living in Judea or nearby (with John as they say), Paul should have gone to her and at least learnt from her the accurate tradition and beliefs of Jesus from his mother Mary, in my opinion. He was a smart guy, he did not meet her once for a moment lest he gets exposed, in my opinion. Did Paul ever mention of meeting Mary?When all betrayed Jesus, she was there at the Crucifixion, that showed her steadfastness and love for her son, in my opinion.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

 

[kathygleeson27]

Hi

I think Paul/s never cared for Mary; if she was alive and living in Judea or nearby (with John as they say), Paul should have gone to her and at least learnt from her the accurate tradition and beliefs of Jesus from his mother Mary, in my opinion. He was a smart guy, he did not meet her once for a moment lest he gets exposed, in my opinion. Did Paul ever mention of meeting Mary?When all betrayed Jesus, she was there at the Crucifixion, that showed her steadfastness and love for her son, in my opinion.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

Dear Ahamid,

St Paul, really cared for Our Lady, he had to humble himself to Our Lady and the 12 apostles. St Paul became the Apostle to the Gentliles, and wrote the Epistles He met her and the rest of the apostles and disciples after his conversion.He was present at the martrydom of the St. Stephen (Dec. 26) Later he became converted to Christ Teachings and later died for his faith.

When Our Lady was present at the CRUCIFIXION of her Son Jesus, she was very strong as you say. When the soldier Longinius with great ardor struck our Lord’s side she looked at Longinus with pity of a mother, and had to bear it patiently meanwhile the blood fell on the soldiers eye’s and cured him of his eye strain. " Truely this must be the Son of God! Later he was to be martyred like His Master the same way.

Read The City of God 4 volumes on The Blessed Virgin’s Life. It will help yo u understand our Catholic Faith better. I keep reading it over and over again to help and strengthen my faith in Jesus.

 

[paarsurrey]

Dear Ahamid,

St Paul, really cared for Our Lady, he had to humble himself to Our Lady and the 12 apostles. St Paul became the Apostle to the Gentliles, and wrote the Epistles **He met her **and the rest of the apostles and disciples after his conversion.He was present at the martrydom of the St. Stephen (Dec. 26) Later he became converted to Christ Teachings and later died for his faith.

Hi friend kathygleeson27

Kindly quote from Bible that Paul met Mary; I think he never met Jesus personally and physically; and when Jesus went to India, he did not meet Mary for the needed training in the teachings of Jesus or the tradition of Jesus, in my opinion. I think only the steadfast Mary deserved in the absence of Jesus to become his successor, which the clever Paul deprived her.

What if Mary was a lady? She was properly devoted and trained from her childhood in the Torah and learnt everything essential of a religion under direct supervision of Zechariah, a Messenger of God. It was in appreciation and reward of this sincere devotion that she was selected by God to give a natural birth to a child who was to become the last Messenger of God to the Jews.

After her, no mother was born in Jews who could give birth to a child to become a Messenger unto Jews.

The Jews must accept her son Jesus, as the Messiah of the Jews, in my opinion. This simple sign should be sufficient for them that God Allah YHWH has denied any Word of revelation after truthful Mary and her son truthful Jesus, in my opinion.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

 

[redrosetea]

Paar if she had died her tomb would have become a place of veneration for the Christians…just like the tomb of Peter and Paul

I think she was assumed into heaven…I don’t think Jesus would have wanted His mother to suffer the corpution of the grave…She was created to be the Ark of the New Covenant…there is no teaching that confirms your belief

Christians would have gone to her tomb to venerate her tomb if she had been buried…there is no record that they did

 

[paarsurrey]

I think she was assumed into heaven.

Hi

If Mary was ever assumed to heaven, kindly quote from Bible. Kindly mention the year of her assumption, and the last place where from she was assumed ; please give all this information from Bible.

I love blessed Mary.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; **I love Jesus **for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

 

[kellie]

Hi

If Mary was ever assumed to heaven, kindly quote from Bible. Kindly mention the year of her assumption, and the last place where from she was assumed ; please give all this information from Bible.

I love blessed Mary.

Jesus could assert himself for his claims and reasons; he needed no Paul/s, in my opinion; **I love Jesus **for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except GodAllahYHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

But u don’t believe in the Bible paarsurrey, or else u would be a Christian

So how is quoting from the Bible going to make u believe Mary was assumed into Heaven?

You seem to always want quotes from the Bible, yet Catholicism is so much more than just that

This is where u come undone every time