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pnewton
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I think your opinion was very clear from your earlier post. I do not see how it could reflect a Protestant view of Mary since the song makes no Marian statement, other than that her salvation came from Jesus, which it did.
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pnewton
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Catholic doctrine and understanding of Scripture.
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NHInsider
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I disagree-even though the writer may not have believed/understood the IC, I think the lyric highlights the paradox for those of us who understand the truth. Mary WAS saved by the grace of Jesus’ Passion - that is absolutely what we believe. Just as she was completely a creature and yet Mother of God. And the play on the meanings of “deliver” does this well.
It is just as wrong, theologically, to deify Mary as it is to ignore her role in salvation. I’m not suggesting that anyone here is falling into that error, but I know that some of our ill-catechized young people think we do (just as some of our mis-informed separated brethren think we do). I think there can actually be value in highlighting those paradoxes.
As to whether the song is “insipid” or “inspiring” - that’s a matter of taste, not faith.
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MonFrere
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I agree with your point on the play on words about the word “deliver”. However, you and several other contributors to this thread say something akin to what I put in bold underlined red. You have to overlay the song with a Catholic understanding to somehow justify singing the song. IF YOU DON’T - the song comes up short. I’m not saying that to do this is wrong; I’m just saying it points to a weakness in the lyrics of the song. Just as the song “Amazing Grace” is very weak, perhaps non existent, it in understanding of sacramental grace one can go through enough mental gymnastics to justify singing the song. I put Mary Did You Know in the same category. Again, I’m not saying that this is necessarily wrong – we do it ALL THE TIME in the TV we watch or the movies we watch AND the music we listen to.
THE BEST of our songs are written by those who have a strong theological understanding AND have a deeply poetic gift – I think St. Thomas is the perfect example. I think if we would “have our 'drothers” we would choose songs that contain both; especially in “teaching the faith”.
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simple_soul
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Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe the artist is more “catholic” in his line of thinking than he realizes. If that is the case then maybe he really does understand the catholic perspective of the song. Will that convince you then that the song is OK and theologically correct?
I never knew who the artist was or anything about him. But I do know the song and for me the reason I find the song so captivating is it displays the awesomeness of what God did for us.
Think about it. The great I AM! The one who created all creation, the one who is the beginning and end to everything, in your arms as a helpless little baby completely depended on you.
To me the song shows how Mary must have marveled at it all. It is said in the bible somewhere “she pondered these things in her heart.”
I believe the song captures this also.
I know I marvel in speechlessness and wonderment at why the Great I AM did choose to do what He did and does for us and it fills me with love for Him all the time.
Just my 2 cents
I never knew who the artist was or anything about him. But I do know the song and for me the reason I find the song so captivating is it displays the awesomeness of what God did for us.
Think about it. The great I AM! The one who created all creation, the one who is the beginning and end to everything, in your arms as a helpless little baby completely depended on you.
To me the song shows how Mary must have marveled at it all. It is said in the bible somewhere “she pondered these things in her heart.”
I believe the song captures this also.
I know I marvel in speechlessness and wonderment at why the Great I AM did choose to do what He did and does for us and it fills me with love for Him all the time.
Just my 2 cents
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kimmielittle
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MonFrere
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EXACTLY!! And this is the extent of Mariology in Protestantism. THEY HAVE NO STATEMENT.
I was a Protestant for over 30 years and in all those years the only time Mary was mentioned was when the Catholic Church was mentioned and her errors. They are kind of stuck during Christmas time being that she was the one who gave birth to Jesus – but if the conversation gets into any detail the comment must be made that she was a sinner, just like us.
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CHRISTINE77
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I agree with you. To me, that line is the most powerful line in the song, it really hits you. That’s a beautiful song, no matter who wrote it.
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NHInsider
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And that’s the beauty of the song, that it highlights those paradoxes - not only that Mary gave birth to her own Savior, but that the helpless infant is Almighty God, etc. I thnk theologically the song has more to recommend it than to condemn.
Lots of our “old favorite” Christmas Carols aren’t “Catholic.” Doesn’t make them heretical.
Lots of our “old favorite” Christmas Carols aren’t “Catholic.” Doesn’t make them heretical.
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MonFrere
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I agree with your points. I’m just making some others that hopefully will bring some balance to a song that IMO has some legitimate limitations. In my Protestant days I played this song for a Christmas Eve service. Since then, I’ve learned and have become acquainted with songs that are much superior. Why choose something that’s much less when there are so much better to choose from. Hmmm… that’s not really my point; I’m saying that in the great scheme of things, there may be a place for this song – but that people should realize that this is not musically, lyrically and theologically the best from which there is to choose.
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LilyM
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There’s a great song written by a Catholic musician (I believe her name is Nancy Krebbs?) called ‘Mary Knew’. In an interview she actually mentioned it as being a response to ‘Mary, Did You Know?’ Not that it implies that the Blessed Virgin was omniscient or anything, but it’s a great song nonetheless, very much more in tune with Catholic sensibilities.
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CHRISTINE77
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can you print out the lyrics for us?
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LilyM
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Indeed I can
When He was born, He was so beautiful.
He took her breath away, He stole her heart away.
She held Him close, to shield her baby boy;
this Holy Child, her life, her joy.
And when He smiled at her;
their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance she saw His love,
His selfless love shine from His Sacred Face;
So full of grace.
And Mary knew that she could never look away.
When just a little boy, He brought her flowers.
or helped her with some chore
around the house, always giving more.
She held Him close, to shield her baby boy;
this Holy child, her life, her joy.
And when He smiled at her.
their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance, she saw His love; His selfless love
shine from His Sacred Face; so full of grace.
and Mary knew that she could never look away.
She watched Him as He grew,
into a handsome man.
He took her breath away, He stole her heart away.
She had to let Him go, she could not
shield her baby boy.
And one day they crucified her life, her joy.
Through pain, He smiled at her.
Their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance, she saw His love,
His selfless love, shine from His Sacred Face;
bruised but full of grace.
And Mary knew she still could never look away.
Her eyes are on him to this day.
As our guide, she leads the way
in hopes that we, like her, will never look away.
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CHRISTINE77
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Wow… that brought tears to my eyes. You win!Indeed I can
When He was born, He was so beautiful.
He took her breath away, He stole her heart away.
She held Him close, to shield her baby boy;
this Holy Child, her life, her joy.
And when He smiled at her;
their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance she saw His love,
His selfless love shine from His Sacred Face;
So full of grace.
And Mary knew that she could never look away.
When just a little boy, He brought her flowers.
or helped her with some chore
around the house, always giving more.
She held Him close, to shield her baby boy;
this Holy child, her life, her joy.
And when He smiled at her.
their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance, she saw His love; His selfless love
shine from His Sacred Face; so full of grace.
and Mary knew that she could never look away.
She watched Him as He grew,
into a handsome man.
He took her breath away, He stole her heart away.
She had to let Him go, she could not
shield her baby boy.
And one day they crucified her life, her joy.
Through pain, He smiled at her.
Their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance, she saw His love,
His selfless love, shine from His Sacred Face;
bruised but full of grace.
And Mary knew she still could never look away.
Her eyes are on him to this day.
As our guide, she leads the way
in hopes that we, like her, will never look away.
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LilyM
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Thanks - it’s certainly a beautiful song.
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kimmielittle
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Oooooooooooooo
Thank you
Thank you
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Tezza
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Gertabelle
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Thanks for that!Indeed I can
When He was born, He was so beautiful.
He took her breath away, He stole her heart away.
She held Him close, to shield her baby boy;
this Holy Child, her life, her joy.
And when He smiled at her;
their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance she saw His love,
His selfless love shine from His Sacred Face;
So full of grace.
And Mary knew that she could never look away.
When just a little boy, He brought her flowers.
or helped her with some chore
around the house, always giving more.
She held Him close, to shield her baby boy;
this Holy child, her life, her joy.
And when He smiled at her.
their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance, she saw His love; His selfless love
shine from His Sacred Face; so full of grace.
and Mary knew that she could never look away.
She watched Him as He grew,
into a handsome man.
He took her breath away, He stole her heart away.
She had to let Him go, she could not
shield her baby boy.
And one day they crucified her life, her joy.
Through pain, He smiled at her.
Their eyes locked in a glance.
And not by chance, she saw His love,
His selfless love, shine from His Sacred Face;
bruised but full of grace.
And Mary knew she still could never look away.
Her eyes are on him to this day.
As our guide, she leads the way
in hopes that we, like her, will never look away.
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Gertabelle
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OK, now I’m getting off topic, but I was just reminded of a song we sang at a Christmas Eve mass back when I was in high school. The song is called “Mary’s Song” and was written and recorded by Petra. Honestly, I’m not sure I ever heard a recording of it. We learned it by rote with the words in front of us, and then sang it.
Here’s the lyrics to this lovely song
MARY’S SONG
Words and music by Rob Frazier
Hold that blanket closer Mary dear
All the world waits with you for your day
But for now the wind is cold and it’s drear
And Bethlehem’s still so far away
Do you remember the way you felt back then?
Joy and wonder filled your soul and when
The angel slipped away
You knew your life would never be the same
(Chorus)
And now you’re travelling, travelling on a road to Bethlehem
Wandering thoughts fly away
If you knew the road that lay ahead of Him
Would you break down and cry?
Your child is born to die
Feel that hand of strength upon your own
A husband’s love that guides along the way
And as his understanding has grown,
His hopes too are centered on that day
For do you remember the way he looked back then,
Pain and sorrow filled his eyes until when
The angel came to say
The Savior’s birth was meant to be this way
Think back on that promise you receieved
For him in whom the prophets long believed
Now belongs to you, you’ve been chosen too
But He’s the One Who’s gonna shine
We call His name Jesus, Immanuel
He’ll save His people from sin and hell
And of His kingdom there will be no end
Just thought I’d share.
Gertie
Here’s the lyrics to this lovely song
MARY’S SONG
Words and music by Rob Frazier
Hold that blanket closer Mary dear
All the world waits with you for your day
But for now the wind is cold and it’s drear
And Bethlehem’s still so far away
Do you remember the way you felt back then?
Joy and wonder filled your soul and when
The angel slipped away
You knew your life would never be the same
(Chorus)
And now you’re travelling, travelling on a road to Bethlehem
Wandering thoughts fly away
If you knew the road that lay ahead of Him
Would you break down and cry?
Your child is born to die
Feel that hand of strength upon your own
A husband’s love that guides along the way
And as his understanding has grown,
His hopes too are centered on that day
For do you remember the way he looked back then,
Pain and sorrow filled his eyes until when
The angel came to say
The Savior’s birth was meant to be this way
Think back on that promise you receieved
For him in whom the prophets long believed
Now belongs to you, you’ve been chosen too
But He’s the One Who’s gonna shine
We call His name Jesus, Immanuel
He’ll save His people from sin and hell
And of His kingdom there will be no end
Just thought I’d share.
Gertie
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