I always wonder about people who would rather come up with such obviously heretical theories, rather than just admit Our Lady’s holiness and her place of honor.
Here, People are willing to call Jesus an alien!
rather than think that Our Lady was Holy:shrug:We are willing to imagine that God only pretended to be one of us without actually being one us- To look like a Palestinian Jew of the 1st Century, and talk and act like them, but never really be one of them! To look like like a legitimate descendant of Adam without actually being related to Adam in any way apart from mere superficial resemblance! Question is…Why?? This reminds me of the Muslim claim that God only made it look like Christ had died on the cross, but he hadn’t!.. Why??? Is God in the business of perpetuating frauds on men, constantly calling himself the son of Adam, when he wasn’t even related to Mary, his own Mother!!! How was he the son of man (Adam)…just by looking like us???
If God had no intention of actually joining the human race, why even enter Mary’s womb? Why risk her getting accused of adultery? The Archangel could have just brought a fully formed baby to Mary and Joseph and asked them to care for him- Even better, our Lord would have just appeared at the Jordan, preaching and doing miracles! Certainly would have given him more credibility as to his Divinity not having any traceable earthly origin or relatives!
No, my friends, Our Lord Jesus Christ was not a 1st century Clark Kent! A non- human who just looks like us but is not really one of us and only saves us an outsider! He is a legitimate, bonafide, biological heir of Adam- A true human,
“Like us in all things but sin”. It’s precisely because he desired to be a genuine member of the one human family that he did, to legitimately take Adam’s role/place (become 2nd Adam) and our center of unity- something only the descendant of Adam could do- for us to legitimately share in his own merits and the divine life he obtained- This is why he became one of us in a real way, and he did so through only one human being- The Blessed Mother.
You do me wrong to treat me so discourteously, Marybeloved.
I find your reply most unfair. You are simply resorting to a sophistical argument known as Pooh-poohing. To Pooh-Pooh an argument or claim is to brush it aside without consideration, to dismiss it with a cavalier wave of the hand as unworthy of serious attention. And encouraging all to follow your example.
If I and my gentile wife converted to Judaism, and then we bore children, would not our families all be Jewish, even though we were not descendants of Judah.
On the other hand, some Jews by birth are not Jews at all. Scripture tells us: Rv 2:8-9
"And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
The first and the last, who was dead, and has come to life, says this:
I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." NASU They have the bloodline of Judah, but they rebel against God and His plan of salvation for all.
And again, The Ashkenazi Jews are converts to Judaism with zero lineage to the Jews of the Judah descendants. There is no biological relation, none whatsoever.
We humans are all spirits. Our Bodies are merely the physical homes for our spirits. Just as a house is a physical habitat we dwell in, but is not us. We are not our Chromosomes.
If I do God’s will, am I not then also a child of God.
More important is where we all came from.
Jesus is still the child of Mary, for she bore Him in her womb and gave Him birth. But Jesus existed before Adam and Eve, even before the Cosmos and the Kingdom were created. We are born in the Cosmos, but as Christians we are destined for the Kingdom. The Cosmos is a fiery furnace wherein our impurities are removed. For God is Holy.
The material world ought not be confused with the Spiritual world.
Mt 13:24-30
24 Tares among Wheat
Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, " The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ And he said to them, ‘An enemy has done this!’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?’ But he said, ‘No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’"
NASU
ITs not in the bible EITHER. But if you accept that from the Church how can you deny other teachings by the Church. What do you do flip a coin