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lumenjesuchrist
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That’s great! Welcome Home.
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Nicea325
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Very interesting article. Truly sad the Episcopal and Anglican communities are divided. I wonder how many more from those communities will eventually “jump” ship to join the RCC? I am all for unity as Our Lord wished.
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Seatuck
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jwinch2
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YES!
I foresee an Anglican-Rite in the universal church down the road as more of our Anglican brothers and sisters come home to the Holy Mother Church. I hope, and sincerely pray, that is the case.
I foresee an Anglican-Rite in the universal church down the road as more of our Anglican brothers and sisters come home to the Holy Mother Church. I hope, and sincerely pray, that is the case.
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Inishfree
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I live in Maryland and am very happy to hear this. I hope more Episcopal parishes follow.
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Jim_Dandy
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From the Anglican Ordinarite proclamation by Pope Benedict XVI:
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III. Without excluding liturgical celebrations according to the Roman Rite, the Ordinariate has the faculty to celebrate the Holy Eucharist and the other Sacraments, the Liturgy of the Hours and other liturgical celebrations according to the liturgical books proper to the Anglican tradition, which have been approved by the Holy See, so as to maintain the liturgical, spiritual and pastoral traditions of the Anglican Communion within the Catholic Church, as a precious gift nourishing the faith of the members of the Ordinariate and as a treasure to be shared.
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This is the Anglican-Use Rite from Our Lady of the Atonement, the founding parish for the Anglican-Use liturgy in the U.S.:
atonementonline.com/orderofmass/Rite1.html:
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Little_One0307
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WOOT!!!
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Welcome home guys.
WOOT!!!
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jwinch2
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I was aware of that. I was referring to a fully equal Anglican rite in the sense that the Eastern tradition is a fully equal rite with the Latin Rite. Rather than having the Anglican Rite under the Latin one. Hopefully that makes sense…
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Jim_Dandy
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I thought that’s what the Ordinariate accomplished. Wrong?
My parish is blessed to have witnessed the ordination of an Anglican priest recently. His wife and four children attended; the youngest was three-day old Peter. Pure joy. He hopes one day to be able to establish an Anglican-Use parish. My favorite priest is a former Episcopal priest, who entered the Church with his wife and four children several years ago. “May they all be one.” Amen!
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Hesychios
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No, that is not what the Ordinariate is for.
The Anglican use is a version of the Latin Rite, and the ordinariate is a special adjunct structure of the Latin rite church. The ordinariate is not a Sui Iuris church.
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Jim_Dandy
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Now I see the distinction. I didn’t realize the full import of the question. Thanks!
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JohnnyReb
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How does it work when an entire church converts? I am sure they vote on it, does the Catholic Bishop of that Diocese come out and talk to the parishoners? How are the people of the congregation catechized and taught Catholic distinctives of doctrine and praxis? I am curious. 
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masuwerte
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Spiking the ball, Little One? You wouldn’t like a similar response when people leave the Catholic Church for another denomination, please extend your seperated brethren the same courtesy.
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jtodisco
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Thanks for posting this article. I was very happy to read it.
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MarkBrown
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Votes etc happen according to the Anglican jursidictions Canons. In this case I believe the parish had to take 3 votes at annual meetings.How does it work when an entire church converts? I am sure they vote on it, does the Catholic Bishop of that Diocese come out and talk to the parishoners? How are the people of the congregation catechized and taught Catholic distinctives of doctrine and praxis? I am curious.
Each parish is different. In some cases the parish obtains materials from the Church and the Anglican priest begins the catechisms. I do believe this is what some of the TAC churches who have voted to come into the Church have done. And they started a couple of years ago. In some cases, local Catholic priests monitor the classes to ensure proper teaching of the faith. Some of these priest may even be former Anglican clergy.
So, there are various ways for parishes to enter.
Individuals, again depends on the diocese. In my case, I studied the catechism prior to converting this Easter. As I was a priest, I was examined by different priests and two catholic bishops. For laity, some parishes throw you into RCIA and others the priest meets with you. In my parish, if an Anglican or other protestant is interested, wants to convert or just has questions, Father sends them to me. Also Catholics.
Hope that helps.
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IAGladfelter
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This is great . . . as far as it goes. Yet, I know of quite a few Continuing Anglican parishes which want to enter the Ordinariate, but there has been no announcement about any parish of a Continuing Anglican Parish being on the verge of admittance into the Catholic Church once the U.S. Ordinariate is established. Also, in the U.K. no parishes of the Continuing Anglican Churches there have been allowed into the Ordinariate. The silence toward them seems deafening. . .
This begs the question: Are the Ordinariates to be only to be for parishes and clergy of a “mainstream” Anglican Church of the Anglican Communion / “the Lambeth Communion” as some are calling it these days - in full communion with the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or will the Continuing Anglican Churches be allowed in?
I understand this has been a matter of some discussion; but after all, it was a petition of one of the Continuing Anglican Churches - the Traditional Anglican Communion under + Hepworth - which started the ball rolling, leading to Anglicanorum Coetibus. It would be ironic if they - who started this process - might be “frozen out” of the Ordinariate which resulted from their petitions. Theologically, the Continuing Anglicans are far more theologically and socially conservative than Episcopalians, and would be theologically on the “right wing” of the Catholic Church, but that should not be a consideration.
Blessings,
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mark_a
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Hmmm. . . . . I never thought of it that way. . . . . .
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MarkBrown
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Bishop,
There are ACA, which are continuing Anglican parishes, that have voted to enter the Ordinariate when it is created in the States and Canada. In the States, the ACA has created a proto-Diocese for these parishes until such time the Ordinariate is established.
The situation is different with TEC parishes. They do not have an organization to hold them until that time of creation. TEC parishes once they vote to enter the Ordinariate can not stay in the TEC.
As with the situation with the TTAC parishes in the UK, I can not speak. Though maybe we should contact the TTAC Bishop to see where they stand.
According to Cardinal Wuerl’s office and others, there are many Anglicans who are not Canterbury Anglicans that are the majority who want the Ordinariate created.
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Inishfree
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Thanks for your reply and blessings to you!
I can understand why smaller parishes are merging. We have the same problem at my church. The members are dying off and not too many young folks to replace them. The church doors do not stay open by prayer alone. Bills have to be paid and etc…
My sister in law attends an Episcopol church. She asked me if the Catholic church was having the same problems, lack of attendence. I told her yes. Every week, we are operating in the red. Some Catholic schools even closed because of it.
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