Mary's Virginity

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Is your faith compatible with Astheroth (sp?) the Queen of Heaven?
 
Seeing it is ok to be dumb here let me take the cake,
Who is Isis, is it another language and this is one of the prophets (pbut) if so how do you say it in English?
 
please disregard my question the net tells me it is an Egyptian goddess
 
Is your faith compatible with Astheroth (sp?) the Queen of Heaven?
Yes and no… its a deeper question than you think… it goes back to the whole ‘Heavenly Council’ belief as recorded in the OT. It is compatible in the way that the consort of EL or YHVH is one of the incarnations of the Goddess… it is not compatible in the sense that Astaroth is a Prince of Hell type thing…
 
Yes and no… its a deeper question than you think… it goes back to the whole ‘Heavenly Council’ belief as recorded in the OT. It is compatible in the way that the consort of EL or YHVH is one of the incarnations of the Goddess… it is not compatible in the sense that Astaroth is a Prince of Hell type thing…
Yeah I read about the prince o’ hell thing too. But I more concerned was Isis called the queen of heaven the way Astaroth was? Did Isis bear a son? Is it based on fertility? I guess I can wiki all of this. Haha!
 
Yeah I read about the prince o’ hell thing too. But I more concerned was Isis called the queen of heaven the way Astaroth was? Did Isis bear a son? Is it based on fertility? I guess I can wiki all of this. Haha!
Yes, she is called the Queen of Heaven… she was also known as She of 10,000 Names, since all goddesses were considered aspects of her. She bore one son, Horus…
 
EL or YHVH is one of the incarnations of the Goddess
hmm i am probably asking too much here but in a historic sense if El is an incarnation of the goddess how did El lead the people of Israel away from Pharo.

Now i might really showing how dumb i am as i make the assumption that Isis being an Egyptian deity Pharo would have been a priority.
 
Yes, she is called the Queen of Heaven… she was also known as She of 10,000 Names, since all goddesses were considered aspects of her. She bore one son, Horus…
Does the Obelisk represent the male organ and was the obelisk an article of Horus?
 
When prophecy was written, it was said that a virgin will give birth to a child.

Do you think her virginity is incidental? Or do you suppose that there is something theologically or spiritually significant regarding a virgin?
As per Genesis 3:15 and the prophets this was not to be just any virgin; This virgin will not be tainted with the evil one, That God has placed enmity between the serpent and the woman and her seed which also foretells of her virginity because she carries her own seed.

The divine in order to enter time and flesh, took on flesh from the Virgin who was without sin, for emmanuel is without sin, and cannot be tainted in anyway with sin.

This virgin becomes the new eve. of whom Jesus dignifies her (blessed virgin Mary) with the title “Woman”. Because she is bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. She is the new eve because we are her offspring Rev.12:17 Mother of all the living.

This Virgin represents the body of Jesus Christ on earth. Meaning the Church Jesus built upon Peter has known no other God nor has worshipped any false gods. The virgin Catholic Church has no other husband but her bridegroom Jesus Christ.

The virgin also indicates that nothing unclean ever enters the throne room of God. This bride the virgin must be spotless and without wrinkle in order for the divine to be present to his virgin bride. That is how the Holy Spirit was able to overshadow Mary, and why the Church will one day present herself as a virgin bride to her bride groom in heaven.
 
hmm i am probably asking too much here but in a historic sense if El is an incarnation of the goddess how did El lead the people of Israel away from Pharo.

Now i might really showing how dumb i am as i make the assumption that Isis being an Egyptian deity Pharo would have been a priority.
El is not an incarnation of Isis… his female consort was (Astarte I think, but She and Asherah were mixed when El and YHVH were combined)… El and YHVH were combined over time, but originally, YHVH was a son of El and his consort was Asherah (also considered an Isian aspect).

Also, while a very dramatic story, the Exodus has no evidence of having ever taken place… at least not the mass exodus as described, so no priority what have been necessary. Also, the Goddess is no respecter of governments, but of truth and righteousness… your government goes bad, you lose her favor, regardless of national origin.
 
El is not an incarnation of Isis… his female consort was (Astarte I think, but She and Asherah were mixed when El and YHVH were combined)… El and YHVH were combined over time, but originally, YHVH was a son of El and his consort was Asherah (also considered an Isian aspect).

Also, while a very dramatic story, the Exodus has no evidence of having ever taken place… at least not the mass exodus as described, so no priority what have been necessary. Also, the Goddess is no respecter of governments, but of truth and righteousness… your government goes bad, you lose her favor, regardless of national origin.
I believe she is coming again.
 
Does the Obelisk represent the male organ and was the obelisk an article of Horus?
No… it is a ray of the sun… a diadem (like in the crown described in Revelations) or on the Statue of Liberty. In that Horus is associated with the sun, I suppose it could be…
 
That is correct… I don’t believe he was, if he existed at all… you can quote the bible all you want, but since it is a patchwork of redacted priest-craft nonsense, it won’t help your cause.
That’s right. I can quote the Bible all I want. The point is that Catholic devotion to Mary has a scriptural foundation. It isn’t something we’ve adopted from the pagan mystery religions.

By the way, where was Isis when the one true God delivered the Jews from slavery in Egypt? Having a pedicure? 🤷
 
That’s right. I can quote the Bible all I want. The point is that Catholic devotion to Mary has a scriptural foundation. It isn’t something we’ve adopted from the pagan mystery religions.

By the way, where was Isis when the one true God delivered the Jews from slavery in Egypt? Having a pedicure? 🤷
The first part… sorry, but it is adopted from older sources… even your church fathers knew this, and tried to explain it away by saying satan had created counterfeits because he knew what was coming.

The second part…I believe I answered that in an above post… there is no evidence of an exodus… and, if I’m not mistaken, no evidence of Jews being slaves in Egypt.
 
The first part… sorry, but it is adopted from older sources… even your church fathers knew this, and tried to explain it away by saying satan had created counterfeits because he knew what was coming.

The second part…I believe I answered that in an above post… there is no evidence of an exodus… and, if I’m not mistaken, no evidence of Jews being slaves in Egypt.
Care to cite these Church Fathers? 🤷

Are you serious? :rotfl: I’m afraid you are mistaken.

PAX :sleep:
 
Care to cite these Church Fathers? 🤷

Are you serious? :rotfl: I’m afraid you are mistaken.

PAX :sleep:
Its been awhile since I read them, so I’ll have to dig that information up for you…

Care to show me the evidence for Jewish slavery in Egypt? All I’ve ever seen are some remains of scattered settlements in the delta region close to Sinai… and these don’t show differences from native settlements… in fact, there are records of mutual and peaceful co-existence between the communities (trade, inter-marriage, etc.). I’ve heard some recent theories that equate the Hebrews with the invading Hyksos (expelled by Ahmose at the start of the 18th Dynasty), but nothing solid to date.
 
Mary’s virginity (among other things) was adopted from other sources… it was an accepted and recognized attribute of divinity… if you want to make your gal special, just give her the attributes and titles of the Goddess.
Judaism, as in OT, does not record any virgin birth. Hinduism and Buddhism too do not believe in virgin birth.

Who else, among living religions, accept it?
 
That’s an interesting question… of course Christians and Isians do… Islam doesn’t (I’m pretty sure…)

I’ll have to check that out.
 
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