Mass. Catholic Charities to Be Required to Support Homosexual Adoption

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**Massachussetts Catholic Charities Required to Support Gay Adoption, Bishops dealt setback in pursuit of gay adoption exemption **

By Patricia Wen, Globe Staff | February 17, 2006

boston.com/news/loc al/articles/2006/02/17/bishops_dealt_setback_in_purs uit_of_gay_adoption_exemption/

Governor Mitt Romney and a legislative leader yesterday delivered unwelcome news to the Catholic bishops of Massachusetts, who plan to seek permission from the state to exclude gay and lesbian parents from adopting children through its social service agencies.

The governor said he was not authorized to give such an exemption, and State Representative Eugene L. O’Flaherty, the House chairman of the joint committee on the judiciary, predicted little support among lawmakers for any request by Catholic adoption agencies for an exemption from the state’s antidiscrimination policies.

''I would say there would not be an appetite to entertain that," O’Flaherty said.

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[TPJCatholic]

Perhaps they should get out of the bussiness?

 

[frommi]

TPJCatholic:

Perhaps they should get out of the bussiness?

So, the other 703 kids wouldn’t have homes?

 

[fix]

TPJCatholic:

Perhaps they should get out of the bussiness?

What’s next? “Catholic” universities teaching things contrary to the faith? “Catholic” hospitals referring out abortions, performing intentional sterilization and dispensing contraception? Some in the clergy claiming the Vatican is homophobic because it proclaims the truth on matters of sexuality?

This story about homosexual adoption is no surprise and that is a shame. That it even happens says so much.

 

[Marauder]

Yes you have freedom of choice unless that choice goes against what is politically correct.

If you want to choose not to give out certain drugs at your store because it goes against your belief, we will infringe on that choice and make you.

If you want to choose to set policies in your religious charity that prohibit certain people from adopting we will infringe on that choice and make you.

If you don’t want to provide abortions at your religious hospital we will infringe on that choice and make you.

But you have to protect the choice to kill my child.

You have the choice to do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t go against the belief of what is politically correct.

 

[Maranatha]

frommi:

So, the other 703 kids wouldn’t have homes?

That’s not likely to happen. The state will have to take up the load if they force the CC out of the business.

 

[Wolseley]

You always hear the mantra from the liberals about “Separation of church and state!”, which, of course, means that the church should keep its nose out of what the state does.

It’s really a shame that they’re all too intellectually-challenged to understand that the concept works both ways: the state should also keep its nose out of what the church is doing.

Perhaps its time for the Church to start engaging in some good old-fashioned civil disobediance.

“No, we won’t.”

“You will, or else.”

“Make us.”

 

[frommi]

Wolseley:

It’s really a shame that they’re all too intellectually-challenged to understand that the concept works both ways: the state should also keep its nose out of what the church is doing.

That argument becomes moot once the CHURCH takes on STATE funds.

That’s why the church is being compelled to do this.

 

[cathgal]

frommi:

That argument becomes moot once the CHURCH takes on STATE funds.

That’s why the church is being compelled to do this.

I say throw the funds back in their face and let them handle the biz! The Church will not be a participant in this gravely immoral practice!

 

[JOHNYJ]

The Late Cardinal O’Conner of New York use to get into disputes with the city over attempts by the city to impose their policies on the parochial schools .The Cardinal would negotiate when possible.If that didn’t work he would threaten to close all he Catholic schools and dump 500,000 kids on the NYC public schools. The city always backed down.
They should appeal any order as high as they can. If pushcomes to shove they close down,simple.

 

[frommi]

cathgal:

I say throw the funds back in their face and let them handle the biz! The Church will not be a participant in this gravely immoral practice!

They certainly have that right, but you do have to consider if its worth stopping the adoptions that do fall within the boundaries of appropriateness.

The reality is that Mass. recognizes gay marriage. Therefore those couples have the same rights and privileges, including adoption of children.

It is what it is for now.

 

[cathgal]

frommi:

They certainly have that right, but you do have to consider if its worth stopping the adoptions that do fall within the boundaries of appropriateness.

The reality is that Mass. recognizes gay marriage. Therefore those couples have the same rights and privileges, including adoption of children.

It is what it is for now.

It is never right to do evil to justify good.

The state can do whatever they want, but the Church doesn’t have to be a part of it. Don’t worry about the adoptions. Some one else will take care of it if not the Church. If the state wants to take over that work load, let them have it!

 

[Wolseley]

cathgal:

I say throw the funds back in their face and let them handle the biz! The Church will not be a participant in this gravely immoral practice!

I quite agree.

 

[Elzee]

frommi:

So, the other 703 kids wouldn’t have homes?

We cannot promote something against God’s law. What little faith we have if we think supporting something so morally wrong is the only way to help these children. Is God really that desperate? I don’t think so. He never has been and never will be. We should not be either.

He calls us to a higher standard in the face of decreasing standards. I hope the Church in Massachusetts has the courage to do what is right. The Catholic Church needs to reclaim its moral voice in America on politically sensitive issues.

 

[Chris_Jacobsen]

frommi:

The reality is that Mass. recognizes gay marriage. Therefore those couples have the same rights and privileges, including adoption of children.

Rights don’t come from the state, rights come from God. The state can neither give nor take away rights.

If homosexuals have no right to adopt children, they have no right to adopt children. There is nothing the State of Massachusetts can do to change that.

 

[Jeffrey]

Agreed… or perhaps go underground.

TPJCatholic:

Perhaps they should get out of the bussiness?

 

[Jeffrey]

:clapping:

cathgal:

I say throw the funds back in their face and let them handle the biz! The Church will not be a participant in this gravely immoral practice!

 

[Jeffrey]

Better than too let homos adopt them… thats a GRAVE sin… I wouldn’t want to be a party to it… niether should the Church IMO.

frommi:

So, the other 703 kids wouldn’t have homes?

 

[siamesecat]

Jeffrey:

Better than too let homos adopt them… thats a GRAVE sin… I wouldn’t want to be a party to it… niether should the Church IMO.

It’s ‘neither’ and ‘to’ but anyways…calling them homos helps nothing. I would agree that straight parents are a better choice than gay ones, but gay parents are a better choice than a life in foster care. The Church is a private institution and should be allowed to discriminate as it chooses to, but not if working through the state or with state funds. I agree with whoever said the Church should give back the funds and go through with their policy…but maybe they can’t afford to. The MA dioceses especially are struggling with sex abuse lawsuits and donations are way down for the same reason…they probably need the state money to keep the program going.

 

[Sir_Knight]

JOHNYJ:

The Late Cardinal O’Conner of New York use to get into disputes with the city over attempts by the city to impose their policies on the parochial schools .The Cardinal would negotiate when possible.If that didn’t work he would threaten to close all he Catholic schools and dump 500,000 kids on the NYC public schools. The city always backed down.
They should appeal any order as high as they can. If pushcomes to shove they close down,simple.

I recall the same thing happening when they wanted to require Catholic hospitals to give abortions on demand … the bishops said that they would shut down every single hospital before they would perform a single abortion – that quickly put an end to the discussion.