Mass Dress Code

[RyanBlack]

Where did I say one can’t wear jeans to Mass?? I did say tight fitting jeans or any kind of tight fitting clothing. What post?? I personally don’t, but that’s “my opinion.” Others seem to be worried about the jeans thing. WHY??? God Bless, Memaw

Post 37 of this thread, you say that jeans are not fitting for a holy place.

 

[Memaw]

Post 37 of this thread, you say that jeans are not fitting for a holy place.

I do believe I mentioned tight fitting jeans. Most jeans today are very tight fitting. There made that way. I personally do not think jeans and a t-shirt are proper attire for Mass, but then, like I said before, that is my opinion. Is it OK if I have one? God Bless, Memaw

 

[RyanBlack]

I do believe I mentioned tight fitting jeans. Most jeans today are very tight fitting. There made that way. I personally do not think jeans and a t-shirt are proper attire for Mass, but then, like I said before, that is my opinion. Is it OK if I have one? God Bless, Memaw

And is it OK for me to have the opinion that to tell people that jeans are not proper attire for Mass is judgmental?

 

[Memaw]

And is it OK for me to have the opinion that to tell people that jeans are not proper attire for Mass is judgmental?

I’m NOT judging the people, just the jeans, Big difference !!! Again, why so hung up on jeans??? God Bless, Memaw

 

[RyanBlack]

I’m NOT judging the people, just the jeans, Big difference !!!God Bless, Memaw

 

[Memaw]

Laughter is good for the soul. God Bless, Memaw

 

[zab]

And is it OK for me to have the opinion that to tell people that jeans are not proper attire for Mass is judgmental?

No, that is not OK. It is not being judgmental to say what one believes is and is not proper attire. What is being judgmental is calling someone “judgmental” and “rude” simply because they state an opinion with no ill intent towards others. False accusations hurt and offend others and sometimes are the cause of the others being treated unjustly. In response to someone’s statement wondering how many people would be in line to throw Jesus out of Church, I would say that no servant is greater than his/her master. Jesus was falsely accused and condemned, too.

 

[atjar]

You missed my point!

I’m not for dress codes

But, I my thoughts are not as melodramatic as yours, either.

I believe it doesn’t send people away from Jesus, but makes it less likely they will come to Jesus on their own.

My point, which you missed, is that, while everyone talks about what is proper dress code, what is proper displays of reference, what is this-and-that is mainly just lip flapping,

I think its like the weather, which some American humorist (Will Rogers or Mark Twain, can’t remember which), “Everyone talks about it, but nobody does anything about it”!

Did you see how the apostles were dressed at the supper table? Try wearing that kind of clothing today to church. Yet Christ didn’t mind one bit. So why do we?

 

[DeniseNY]

I remember, years ago, seeing a woman at church who was dressed in a skimpy outfit. She covered it with a warm jacket that bore the name of a “gentleman’s club” on the back.

I have no idea what brought the woman, presumably straight from work, to the church, but I thank God to this day that she didn’t let her dress keep her from entering. I can’t think of a better place for her to be.

I hold myself to the level I know I can and should be held to because I have the luxury of education, support, and the health and finances to live it. For others, I try to never judge. A stripper turning back to the Lord with haste will surely be a welcome sight the Lord will rejoice over. And having a congregation that can support her in the journey she’s beginning, accepting her where she is and helping her get to where she needs to be, has to be pleasing to Him, too.

It’s important for the church to teach dignity, beauty, and about modesty and humility. When people get the support they need to live the life of faith, physically and spiritually, their internal state will affect their actions. I trust God to do that work inside of people’s souls and hope I and others in the church cooperate with Him in providing a hospitable place where people can grow and learn the faith.

It’s very possible that she was there straight from work, and yes, it was the best place for her to be.

But, what if she didn’t come straight from work and that’s just what she happened to wear. Does that make a difference? Makes me think of an op ed written by a bishop who commented on a woman in the Communion line wearing a “World’s Sexiest Grandmother” sweater.

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[zab]

Did you see how the apostles were dressed at the supper table? Try wearing that kind of clothing today to church. Yet Christ didn’t mind one bit. So why do we?

Probably for the same reason that you drive or ride in a car instead of on a donkey.

 

[Memaw]

No, that is not OK. It is not being judgmental to say what one believes is and is not proper attire. What is being judgmental is calling someone “judgmental” and “rude” simply because they state an opinion with no ill intent towards others. False accusations hurt and offend others and sometimes are the cause of the others being treated unjustly. In response to someone’s statement wondering how many people would be in line to throw Jesus out of Church, I would say that no servant is greater than his/her master. Jesus was falsely accused and condemned, too.

Thank You, If HE objected to what they wear, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit! God Bless, Memaw

 

[atjar]

Where does the idea come from that the Apostles dressed in “toga sheets” or that they were “scraggly”?

Jesus wore expensive, beautiful clothing (the seamless garment that the soldiers gambled for at His crucifixion, for example) - there is nothing to indicate that His Apostles didn’t do likewise.

Just take a look at some of the paintings of the last supper and the apostles as well as historic writings of what passed for every day attired 2000 years ago. Would you be OK if I wore a bed sheet tied with a sash around my waist and sandals and scraggly hair and beard if I was lectoring that Sunday? Would I be denied communion if i dressed that way. How about the prostitutes Christ hung out with; sure it would be the talk of church if I brought them with me to Mass and they were dressed for their line of work.

 

[Memaw]

Just take a look at some of the paintings of the last supper and the apostles as well as historic writings of what passed for every day attired 2000 years ago. Would you be OK if I wore a bed sheet tied with a sash around my waist and sandals and scraggly hair and beard if I was lectoring that Sunday? Would I be denied communion if i dressed that way. How about the prostitutes Christ hung out with; sure it would be the talk of church if I brought them with me to Mass and they were dressed for their line of work.

Every time Jesus forgave their sins, He told them to go and sin no more. So hopefully they were there as some of Jesus’ followers. God Bless, Memaw

 

[Memaw]

Just take a look at some of the paintings of the last supper and the apostles as well as historic writings of what passed for every day attired 2000 years ago. Would you be OK if I wore a bed sheet tied with a sash around my waist and sandals and scraggly hair and beard if I was lectoring that Sunday? Would I be denied communion if i dressed that way. How about the prostitutes Christ hung out with; sure it would be the talk of church if I brought them with me to Mass and they were dressed for their line of work.

Paintings while they can be very inspirational, are actually the artists version of what they paint. Not always accurate historically. God Bless, Memaw

 

[Phemie]

Did you see how the apostles were dressed at the supper table? Try wearing that kind of clothing today to church. Yet Christ didn’t mind one bit. So why do we?

Unless there were cameras present we don’t have the faintest clue what the apostles or Jesus wore at the Last Supper so could we just not bring that one up again.

By every indication Jesus was a faithful Jew and would have dressed appropriately to go to the Temple or the Synagogue.

 

[cheezey]

 

[RyanBlack]

No, that is not OK. It is not being judgmental to say what one believes is and is not proper attire. What is being judgmental is calling someone “judgmental” and “rude” simply because they state an opinion with no ill intent towards others. False accusations hurt and offend others and sometimes are the cause of the others being treated unjustly. In response to someone’s statement wondering how many people would be in line to throw Jesus out of Church, I would say that no servant is greater than his/her master. Jesus was falsely accused and condemned, too.

I’ve called no one rude and I’ve made no comments about Jesus being thrown out of church.

I too simply stated an opinion with no ill intent towards others, yet you are judging me, are you not? I really don’t know whether or not Memaw is being judgmental about those persons who wear jeans to Mass, which is why I stated that what she said about jeans comes across as being judgmental. However, in light of Holy Scripture states in James 2, I believe that we are in very dangerous territory when we make judgments about what others wear to church, particularly in cases when we don’t know the person, what clothing they own, the resources they have for buying more clothes, and whether or not they actually believe that clothing worn to Church has anything to do with one’s reverence towards God (many people make no such connection).

Finally, I find it to be highly offensive that any statements I’ve made in this thread are being compared with Jesus being falsely accused and condemned. Such an analogy is absurd.

 

[zab]

I’ve called no one rude and I’ve made no comments about Jesus being thrown out of church.

I too simply stated an opinion with no ill intent towards others, yet you are judging me, are you not? I really don’t know whether or not Memaw is being judgmental about those persons who wear jeans to Mass, which is why I stated that what she said about jeans comes across as being judgmental. However, in light of Holy Scripture states in James 2, I believe that we are in very dangerous territory when we make judgments about what others wear to church, particularly in cases when we don’t know the person, what clothing they own, the resources they have for buying more clothes, and whether or not they actually believe that clothing worn to Church has anything to do with one’s reverence towards God (many people make no such connection).

Finally, I find it to be highly offensive that any statements I’ve made in this thread are being compared with Jesus being falsely accused and condemned. Such an analogy is absurd.

And I find it highly offensive that you have stated that you are highly offended by your misrepresentation of what I wrote.
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[zab]

I’ve called no one rude and I’ve made no comments about Jesus being thrown out of church. I did not say you did.

I too simply stated an opinion with no ill intent towards others, yet you are judging me No, you are the one making false accusations and I am defending myself and others against them. are you not?

I really don’t know whether or not Memaw is being judgmental about those persons who wear jeans to Mass, Yet you have stated that you have the right to have an opinion that to tell people that jeans are not proper attire to wear to Mass is JUDGEMENTAL post # 121

which is why I stated that what she said about jeans comes across as being judgmental. However, in light of Holy Scripture states in James 2, I believe that we are in very dangerous territory when we make judgments about what others wear to church, Does this apply to the priest’s gentle reminders on proper etiquette and church attire in post #1?

particularly in cases when we don’t know the person, what clothing they own, the resources they have for buying more clothes, and whether or not they actually believe that clothing worn to Church has anything to do with one’s reverence towards God (many people make no such connection). For crying out loud, I WEAR JEANS TO DAILY MASS and in no way have I perceived Memaw’s posts to be judgemental towards me or anyone else simply for stating her opinion of what is proper. Some people would really appreciate knowing what proper attire is.

Finally, I find it to be highly offensive that any statements I’ve made in this thread are being compared with Jesus being falsely accused and condemned. Such an analogy is absurd. Falsely accusing others and misrepresenting their words is highly offensive. /quote]

 

[Miserissima]

And I find it highly offensive that you have stated that you are highly offended by your misrepresentation of what I wrote.
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I read it the way Ryan Black read it.

Just sayin’.

And no one still has taken my idea of a “modesty ministry” to their pastor or parish council this week, huh?

Cheesey, quit hogging the popcorn.

This thread has become the best I’ve read all day. Sublume. Srsly.

God bless, Miserissima