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Lookingforjoy
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I totally agree with staying home. My Archdiocese has released us from our Sunday Mass attendance, and I’m grateful.
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Richard_White
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No, overreaction is not appropriate. But I am absolutely not overreacting. I am simply saying that we should practice extreme social distancing for a few weeks to curb the spread of the disease. It’s not like we can’t go back to normal after a few weeks of sacrifice. If we don’t, then it will lead to the worse consequence of cancelled Masses throughout the entire country and it will take much longer to get back to normal.
Furthermore, this could very well be just like Italy. Yes, we have a great health care system. But that health care system can’t really do much at this point to prevent the community spread of a respiratory illness. It’s up to us, the people of this country, to limit our contacts with other people and therefore limit the spread of the disease. It’s literally the only way. Respectfully, to say that it is unlikely that we will end up like Italy is terribly irresponsible. There is nothing magical in our air that will prevent us from spreading the disease to others.
Moreover, to say that the high risk groups are the only ones that have to worry is honestly very inappropriate. We all have loved ones who are in that high risk group. What if they get it, per my example above? How will you feel if you bring home COVID-19 to your grandmother, who can’t fight it like you can? We can’t afford to be selfish right now. We have to think of others, too. COVID-19, by the current numbers, is 10 times more deadly than influenza. While this case fatality rate will probably go down, it is still very serious. We all have a role to play, and we have to begin playing it right now.
Furthermore, this could very well be just like Italy. Yes, we have a great health care system. But that health care system can’t really do much at this point to prevent the community spread of a respiratory illness. It’s up to us, the people of this country, to limit our contacts with other people and therefore limit the spread of the disease. It’s literally the only way. Respectfully, to say that it is unlikely that we will end up like Italy is terribly irresponsible. There is nothing magical in our air that will prevent us from spreading the disease to others.
Moreover, to say that the high risk groups are the only ones that have to worry is honestly very inappropriate. We all have loved ones who are in that high risk group. What if they get it, per my example above? How will you feel if you bring home COVID-19 to your grandmother, who can’t fight it like you can? We can’t afford to be selfish right now. We have to think of others, too. COVID-19, by the current numbers, is 10 times more deadly than influenza. While this case fatality rate will probably go down, it is still very serious. We all have a role to play, and we have to begin playing it right now.
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Irishmom2
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Can you provide a link to that, because that is not what I have read.
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Horton
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You have every right to make that decision for yourself. However you do not have the right to scold those of us who plan to attend Mass for our own reasons. In my state we have zero confirmed cases. I currently feel well, I have not traveled out of the US, or even out of town in the last several months. I feel certain I am making a good choice. Our Bishop has not canceled Masses at this time but he did cancel a huge statewide conference for youth that was to be held this weekend.
So you do you, and let us take the necessary precautions in the communities where we live.
So you do you, and let us take the necessary precautions in the communities where we live.
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Richard_White
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Regardless of the mortality rate in Italy, they still had an explosion of cases. Anyone can get the disease, it’s just the effect that differs from person to person.
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redbetta
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I am very well aware of that. All I am saying is that it is unlikely to get to the level of Italy over here.
catholic03
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At Sunday Mass, I’ll have to remember that there is a chance that it might be the last Mass I attend in a long time.
Small chance that will be the case, but if the coronavirus situation rapidly changes here, then the bishops may decide to take extraordinary action.
Small chance that will be the case, but if the coronavirus situation rapidly changes here, then the bishops may decide to take extraordinary action.
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Richard_White
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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said it yesterday before Congress:
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...oronavirus-10-times-more-lethal-than-seasonal
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...oronavirus-10-times-more-lethal-than-seasonal
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jochoa
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If a Christian does not recognize the Eucharist as necessary food and drink for life, then said Christian should study the teachings of Christ further.
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jochoa
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Would you agree or disagree with our Holy Father, Pope Francis, praying for priests to have the courage to visit those sickened by the virus, as shared by this article: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/pope-tells-priests-to-go-out-and-meet-the-coronavirus-sick
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Richard_White
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It is very inappropriate for you to respond in this way and assume that I don’t believe in the Eucharist or know Christ’s teachings. I believe firmly in the Eucharist, the Mass, and everything within Catholicism. This is not a debate about theology. This is a debate about a public health emergency and the common good.
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Irishmom2
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Coronavirus is scary, but the flu is deadlier, more widespread
A new case of coronavirus was confirmed Saturday in Massachusetts. But the flu is more dangerous and much deadlier, infecting millions of Americans.
www.usatoday.com
I’m with OP on this one. After considerable reflection, and viewing the rapidly increasing appeals from many to avoid public venues to the extent possible, I have decided not to go to Mass for the duration. I only go to stores in my immediate area to get what I absolutely need, keep my distance from people, and get out of the store and go back home as soon as I’m done. My son homeschools and there is no need to take him anywhere — he’s perfectly happy with his video, his online gaming buddies, and our small backyard. We had a trip planned out-of-state the first of April (comic and fan convention, he loves that sort of thing), but we have cancelled that. Perhaps most importantly, I provide in-home care for elderly parents who are severely mobility-limited. I have to stay well for their sake, and I have to keep them well.
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steph03
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An article from over a month ago… Actually it is estimated now that COVID-19 IS 10 TO 15 times stronger than the flu virus…
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Irishmom2
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So show us your source.
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Richard_White
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This article is from February 1st! Coronavirus has grown exponentially in this country and around the world since then! We are in a much worse place in regard to coronavirus today than we were way back on February 1st when we only had a few cases.
I agree with you that influenza is a much larger concern, both looking into the past and continuing to look into the future after all of this is over. In terms of shear numbers, there are more cases and deaths from influenza right now. Before, I was referring to proportions, based on the currently available numbers. I concede that the current case fatality rate may drop as we move forward.
Nevertheless, I am talking about the threat of coronavirus right here, right now. The spread of the flu is entirely different beast. One man from New Rochelle with the flu doesn’t spread his flu to 50 people. But one man from New Rochelle did spread his coronavirus to 50 people, either directly or indirectly.
I agree with you that influenza is a much larger concern, both looking into the past and continuing to look into the future after all of this is over. In terms of shear numbers, there are more cases and deaths from influenza right now. Before, I was referring to proportions, based on the currently available numbers. I concede that the current case fatality rate may drop as we move forward.
Nevertheless, I am talking about the threat of coronavirus right here, right now. The spread of the flu is entirely different beast. One man from New Rochelle with the flu doesn’t spread his flu to 50 people. But one man from New Rochelle did spread his coronavirus to 50 people, either directly or indirectly.
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jochoa
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I encourage you to refine your verbiage, for in this thread, you are sharing:
“I won’t be going anywhere unless I need to go out to get necessary food or supplies. I even have reservations about going to the grocery store, but obviously we need to be able to eat.“
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“But, if we sacrifice Mass…”
For some, you will be interpreted as “what the grocery store has to offer is necessary for life, while what Mass has to offer is supplemental to life.”
“I won’t be going anywhere unless I need to go out to get necessary food or supplies. I even have reservations about going to the grocery store, but obviously we need to be able to eat.“
And…
“But, if we sacrifice Mass…”
For some, you will be interpreted as “what the grocery store has to offer is necessary for life, while what Mass has to offer is supplemental to life.”
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steph03
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Coronavirus vs. flu: Here's how you can tell the difference
The arrival of Arizona's first COVID-19 cases in the middle of flu season have some people wondering how to determine which is which.
www.azcentral.com
In this article it says COVID19 is 10 times deadlier than flu… I have heard estimates up to 15 times…
Another article…
The flu and the new coronavirus have similar symptoms, but the coronavirus is far deadlier — here's how the 2 compare
"COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza," Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO director-general, said on Tuesday.
www.businessinsider.com
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Irishmom2
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How do you know that? If the flu doesn’t spread easily, why are so many people getting it and so many people dying each year from it?
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