Mass no no's

[Sheeniac]

I know, right? Sheesh.

I am just so amazed at the things that people allow to bother them, let alone the things people even notice in the first place.

Sometimes I look at these items as a personal penance to bear - or that either God put the irritations there in order to teach me tolerance, love and patience.

Being a weak sinner, sometimes I do get irritated.

Of course, we are there to worship God, so people should take care to minimize their actions that bother other people.

 

[Faith1960]

<< If you are not the parent and do not know the parent’s thinking, then yes, it IS an assumption on your part. You are NOT the individual parent you are annoyed with therefore you have NO IDEA what the “fact” of their life is and their view of their child’s behavior. >>

It isn’t too difficult to grasp what the parent’s parenting style is when you know the parents. It isn’t difficult to grasp what the parent’s parenting style is when one sees the same thing happen week after week. If the parent views the child’s behavior as inapproriate they won’t be smiling or ignoring it. It’s as simple as that.

 

[Syele]

Faith, just type it…

goes at the beginning of the quote and at the end put the same thing but insert a / right before the Q.

 

[TradyDaddy]

<< Parental involvement is important here, but you can’t overcome the influence of the overall atmosphere at services where there is lack of reverence among the adults. My kids were very well behaved by Novus Ordo standards, but since we’ve been going to the Traditional Latin Mass, and they’ve seen the kids who have been brought up that way, they have improved exponentially. >>

I know what you mean. The atmosphere has a lot to do with this, too. As far as I know, we don’t have any TLMs near me but I might look online to see where they are and if they’re close enough to make the drive.

That’s great, but be prepared if it’s your first time attending a TLM, you are going to be shocked. You might even wonder if its the same religion Just remember its the same Mass that was said for centuries.

 

[paramedicgirl]

<< Faith, I’m not sure what happens to the quote feature in all of your posts, but it’s not working! It makes it very hard to read your posts, and tell who said what. >>

Sorry. I’ve been using these little arrows to dictate what I’m quoting because I haven’t been able to get the quote feature to appear in that window like everyone elses.
Someone once PMd me and tried to walk me thought it but they still wouldn’t show up that way.

Let me see if I can help. When you reply to a post, it should have quote features around it. Leave them there, and it should work. If that fails, highlight the text you are quoting, and click on the “Wrap Quote” feature at the top right of your CAF icons. (It looks like a sheet of paper with text on it).

Then click preview post before you submit it.

Good luck!

 

[Sheeniac]

I was always taught that we should give 1 hour’s wages per week to the collection. So, the higher your income, the more you give. Then there are the additional collections, where we put in much higher amounts, for specific requests. I know the titles of these collections differ in the US, from what we call them in Canada.

Gosh - that sounds like a relatively small amount. 1/40th of your income versus a traditional tithe of 10% - I’m not trying to criticize since I don’t give 10%!

That’s just the first time I’ve seen that formula.

 

[paramedicgirl]

Gosh - that sounds like a relatively small amount. 1/40th of your income versus a traditional tithe of 10% - I’m not trying to criticize since I don’t give 10%!

That’s just the first time I’ve seen that formula.

That’s just the weekly amount. Then there is the $300 per year you put in the collection for Pilgimmage of Faith, and the same amount for Development & Peace, debt reduction, and the list goes on. Don’t you also have those other church related responsibilities attached to your collections?

 

[chotock]

I find it funny that people think the form of the Liturgy is to blame for how people respond. Perhaps it is more in the people attending. Perhaps it is a lack of lay persons willing to step up in this time of declining vocations to actually teach instead of sitting back and complaining. Why is it that for 1500 years we can have Masses presented in the vernacular and be just fine and then suddenly the vernacular is evil and is destroying faith?

If people are not parenting correctly, perhaps someone should offer advise rather than chastising them. As a convert from a church that was liturgical, in the vernacular, I am abhored by the venom being spewed here towards those that for whatever reason, just do not understand what worship is about. Maybe instead of complaining, and insulting the Bishops who validly gathered at the Second Vatican Council, you should volunteer to help out our already overburdened priests and deacons to teach the faith.

 

[bellesjoy]

I love to see families with their children in tow at mass. Most disruptions don’t bother me. The kind that are really loud and continue for a long time need to be dealt with in an appropriate manner by the parents, having removal be the final option. Normal consideration of others who want to listen to the homily, concecration, etc. is called for.
Kids have to learn how to behave in church and they won’t learn that unless they are there. Most of us have gone through that with our kids and grandkids and it is normal.
I actually feel it is a blessing to hear the sounds of little ones in mass as long as it is kept to a tolerable level and the kids are learning by correction from their parents.
I think cry rooms are fine as long as they are not used as a playroom for kids who are big enough to be learning how to participate/behave in mass.
We need to support our young families. Some parents are on a learning curve as well.

 

[Sheeniac]

That’s just the weekly amount. Then there is the $300 per year you put in the collection for Pilgimmage of Faith, and the same amount for Development & Peace, debt reduction, and the list goes on. Don’t you also have those other church related responsibilities attached to your collections?

Ahhh… I’m a recent revert after wandering 25 years in the desert of atheism, so that could explain it.

In the months I’ve been attending, there’s been Peter’s pence, and a collection for the hurricane victims a few weeks ago. So, perhaps I am unaware of what will be coming up. That puts it in a different light.

In addition, I personally give to certain Catholic charities as well as a an apologists or two and EWTN. When they collect food for the poor every month or so, I add the food to my normal grocery shopping. So, I suppose while I don’t give 10% I am giving a decent amount overall - as you are too!

 

[awindrose]

These threads always make me so paranoid, this Sunday I’m going to be freaking out that I’m aggravating someone if I wipe my brow or yawn.

Not to mention how many times you blink during the Our Father!

 

[paramedicgirl]

Ahhh… I’m a recent revert after wandering 25 years in the desert of atheism, so that could explain it.

In the months I’ve been attending, there’s been Peter’s pence, and a collection for the hurricane victims a few weeks ago. So, perhaps I am unaware of what will be coming up. That puts it in a different light.

In addition, I personally give to certain Catholic charities as well as a an apologists or two and EWTN. When they collect food for the poor every month or so, I add the food to my normal grocery shopping. So, I suppose while I don’t give 10% I am giving a decent amount overall - as you are too!

We also have a collection for the poor every month. For that we don’t get a tax receipt, but every $ goes to the poor, rather than having 17% Cathedraticum tax going to the Diocese. I also contribute to the support of seminarians in Latin America. If anyone wants to do this, PM me and I will send you the address.

 

[Nechasin]

Not to mention how many times you blink during the Our Father!

I think you can only Blink Twice. AFter that it is annoying

 

[palmas85]

Maureen_Fiore:
Well, you were not in the pew with me you did not read the rest of my post. I did tell her to stop, but unfortunately she was pushing my buttons and was showing off in front of her boyfriend. We go to mass every Sunday and this behavior was never seen. Therefore, this was due to the fact that her boyfriend was with us. I was shocked that this incident actually happened. ** I have gone to mass and witnessed more distractions than the one that my daughter did. I would NEVER tell a parent or their child to stop. It is not my place to tell someone to stop being distracting. **Parents who come to church are trying to keep their children quiet and there are times when well-behaved children act up. Simple. So I suggest you read my other post and then go ahead and form your opinion on my parenting.

I posted based on your first post and yes I read it all. You said you were shocked that a stranger would say something to your daughter, then said you realized they were right. You never mentioned anything else about what you did, not in the first post. If you choose to add things in other posts to try to mitigate your behavior go ahead. Just by your doing it you prove many things.:tsktsk: People often add mitigating factors in subsequent post when they realize they look bad. or not particularly sympathetic.

As to your parenting I’ll only say this. Your daughter is 16, and apparently doesn’t know how to behave in Mass. That is very clear. . If she hasn’t learned what the Mass is by now and how to act at one there must be a reason. Either she doesn’t know what it is, doesn’t care what it is or a combination of both. I doubt that if she had any understanding of what the Mass is she would have behaved the way she did. You say that she has gone to Mass with you before, so I sincerely doubt this was the first time she “acted up”

So based solely on your first post, which I believe is what really happened by the way, you apparently haven’t taught her very well

 

[RCCDefender]

Faith, I just love how you chose to ignore Jesus’ words and just pick mine to retort out of my post. How many children do you have anyway? Just the one? and how old is she now?

 

[Melanie01]

People are so wretched in their jiggling, snorts, snuffles coughs cries etc…the answer…the front pew or very very close to the front…it all fades away I find:thumbsup:

 

[thechrismyster]

That’s great, but be prepared if it’s your first time attending a TLM, you are going to be shocked. You might even wonder if its the same religion Just remember its the same Mass that was said for centuries.

The worship of those two Masses is EXACTLY the same. the people’s actions mean not one whit to me. I’m there for Christ. If it be the NO or the TLM. they are the same.

The people who define the sacrament by the ornamentation around them do not grasp the reason why they attend.

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

Well, you were not in the pew with me you did not read the rest of my post. I did tell her to stop, but unfortunately she was pushing my buttons and was showing off in front of her boyfriend. We go to mass every Sunday and this behavior was never seen. Therefore, this was due to the fact that her boyfriend was with us. I was shocked that this incident actually happened. ** I have gone to mass and witnessed more distractions than the one that my daughter did. I would NEVER tell a parent or their child to stop. It is not my place to tell someone to stop being distracting. **

Parents who come to church are trying to keep their children quiet and there are times when well-behaved children act up. Simple. So I suggest you read my other post and then go ahead and form your opinion on my parenting.

I posted based on your first post and yes I read it all. You said you were shocked that a stranger would say something to your daughter, then said you realized they were right. You never mentioned anything else about what you did, not in the first post. If you choose to add things in other posts to try to mitigate your behavior go ahead. Just by your doing it you prove many things.:tsktsk: People often add mitigating factors in subsequent post when they realize they look bad. or not particularly sympathetic.

As to your parenting I’ll only say this. Your daughter is 16, and apparently doesn’t know how to behave in Mass. That is very clear. . If she hasn’t learned what the Mass is by now and how to act at one there must be a reason. Either she doesn’t know what it is, doesn’t care what it is or a combination of both. I doubt that if she had any understanding of what the Mass is she would have behaved the way she did. You say that she has gone to Mass with you before, so I sincerely doubt this was the first time she “acted up”

So based solely on your first post, which I believe is what really happened by the way, you apparently haven’t taught her very well

You are SO FAR OFF BASE with your observation that I will not even comment. You obviously have issues based on your arrogant comments.

 

[thechrismyster]

So based solely on your first post, which I believe is what really happened by the way, you apparently haven’t taught her very well

OUCH.

 

[Maureen_Fiore]

OUCH.

Yes, ouch, this is from our fellow Catholic brethern and to boot he works in law enforcement.

I wonder if he is related to Dr. Phil because he seems so well versed in family matters and how children should behave without seeing the actual act?