Mass with no homily?

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A very orthodox priest changed around the order of the mass, which I am sure is fine…I actually thought he was doing this to give his homily last to all the people that didn’t leave after the Eucharist was given, but he didn’t really give a homily at all. I wonder if he used the apostle’s creed as the homily. Any ideas? This is a good priest who is very orthodox, so I wonder what the reasoning is because from what I was taught there is Liturgy of the Word and Liturgy of the Eucharist. Is the Word just the Bible readings…I guess I thought it was the homily, too. Thanks

Peace
 
If this was a daily Mass, I have seen the priest just have a period of silence after the readings. If it was a Sunday liturgy, he might have been feeling sick and was trying to finish as soon as he could.

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Monicathree:
Hey everyone,

A very orthodox priest changed around the order of the mass, which I am sure is fine…I actually thought he was doing this to give his homily last to all the people that didn’t leave after the Eucharist was given, but he didn’t really give a homily at all. I wonder if he used the apostle’s creed as the homily. Any ideas? This is a good priest who is very orthodox, so I wonder what the reasoning is because from what I was taught there is Liturgy of the Word and Liturgy of the Eucharist. Is the Word just the Bible readings…I guess I thought it was the homily, too. Thanks

Peace
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The homily I believe could be eliminated for serious reasons at week day Mass, except at Sunday and Holy Day Mass, where it can be shortened if necessary.
 
From the GIRM:

“13 The use of the vernacular in the liturgy may certainly be considered an important means for presenting more clearly the catechesis on the mystery that is part of the celebration itself. Nevertheless, the Second Vatican Council also ordered the observance of certain directives, prescribed by the Council of Trent but not obeyed everywhere. Among these are the obligatory homily on Sundays and major feasts and the permission to interpose some commentary during the sacred rites themselves.” (emphasis added)

Hope that helps.
 
our parish’s air-conditioning broke a few weeks ago and the priest did not have a homily that Sunday so that the congregation wouldn’t have to swelter for any longer than necessary. The only other time I’ve seen the homily skipped is at daily Mass.
 
A very orthodox priest changed around the order of the mass, which I am sure is fine
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This part of your post seems to have been overlooked and I am not sure that is “fine”. Exactly what did he change around?

Regarding the homily, as others have stated, it is required on Sunday and Major Feast days but not at daily Mass.
 
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Minerva:
our parish’s air-conditioning broke a few weeks ago and the priest did not have a homily that Sunday so that the congregation wouldn’t have to swelter for any longer than necessary. The only other time I’ve seen the homily skipped is at daily Mass.
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Hm, I’m in NJ also and it hasn’t been that hot. He could always have used that old chestnut, “If you think it’s hot here…”. :eek: Our church doesn’t have A/C anyway.
 
It was Sat. Vigil and he did everything in order until after the biblical readings then after the gospel we said the creed and then the Lord Hear Our Prayer, the Our Father, Sign of Peace…then the gifts were brought up and then the consecration. There was no homily.

Peace
 
Reguarding the GIRM reference: What exactly does “permission to interpose some commentary during the sacred rites themselves.” mean?
 
The Permission to interpose some comentary means that the Priest can interrupt the Mass anywhere to make comments. They should be relavent to the event and very minimally done. For instance, in the beginning of the Mass after the greeting, He may introduce concelebrating Priests or emphasis the theme of the Mass. This is a very frequent spot for comments, but this should be done before we make the Sign of the Cross to start Mass. Another frequent spot is after Holy Communion and before the Final Blessing. I have seen priests give as many as four mini homilies during one Mass!! Up until the New Order of Mass was introduced, the Holy Mass was never interrupted by commentaries. Actually, interposed comentaries were just approved with the new GIRM. I feel they are absolutely unnecessary, except, maybe for an all children’s (lower grades) Mass. Children may not focus well and so it may help to help them understand what is happening at Mass.

Also, Homilies are not necessary at normal daily Masses, and many Priests find one homily a week a chore, while other Priests can give daily homilies with no effort. Also, If the Mass is early in the AM during the week, the Priest realizes that people may be going directly to work after the Mass so he does not take more time with a homily.
We have the Liturgy of the Word and we can take the effort ourselves to re-read the Readings maybe at lunch and take some food into our soul.
Hope this helps some!?
 
It was Sat. Vigil and he did everything in order until after the biblical readings then after the gospel we said the creed and then the Lord Hear Our Prayer, the Our Father, Sign of Peace…then the gifts were brought up and then the consecration. There was no homily.
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Monica,

This order of the Mass seems really odd. The lack of homily is not the biggest problem. Is this priest maybe elderly and got confused?
 
Yeah, he is older, but not that old…
He is a very knowledgeble priest, I just don’t understand what happened here?!

peace
 
Here is what canon law states:
Canon 767 §2 At all Masses on Sundays and holydays of obligation, celebrated with a congregation, there is to be a homily and, except for a grave reason, this may not be omitted.
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Perhaps the priest had a grave reason.
 
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