Massachusetts Catholic School Bars Same-Sex Couple From Prom

[setter]

Massachusetts Catholic School Bars Same-Sex Couple From Prom

ATTLEBORO, Mass. — Rosanne Strott says she was not trying to make a political statement. She just wanted to invite a close friend to Friday night’s prom at Bishop Feehan High School.

The problem was, that friend was a woman. Catholic Diocese officials barred the same-sex couple from attending the prom together.

Strott told The Boston Globe that school administrators are discriminating against her because she is openly bisexual.

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268951,00.html

Get this unbelievable quote from the student head of the school’s prom committee:

Ryan Palanza, the student head of the school’s prom committee, said he wished Strott could bring her date.

“We have to adhere to the diocese’s rules,” he said. “This is just a diocese thing.”

This zero needs to be immediately removed from the prom committee along with any other student who publically voices support for this student’s anti-Catholic behavior, IMHO.

 

[GreenJeans]

Both students reflect the general acceptance by their age group of homosexuality. They just don’t see it as a big deal, and don’t understand why some of their elders are concerned. The older the age group, the less acceptance there is. The younger the age group, the more acceptance there is. This will probably lead to a general social acceptance as the older cohorts hand power to the younger.

 

[setter]

Both students reflect the general acceptance by their age group of homosexuality. They just don’t see it as a big deal, and don’t understand why some of their elders are concerned. The older the age group, the less acceptance there is. The younger the age group, the more acceptance there is. This will probably lead to a general social acceptance as the older cohorts hand power to the younger.

This is a CATHOLIC School!!! for goodness sake, not a public school. We are not talking about the general secular population attending school at a secular edicational institution. The more that I think about, the parents for these confused and scandalous students ought to be put on notice that their will not be allowed to graduate until they have publically recanted of their anti-Catholic beliefs. Then maybe they will realize that Catholic education is meant to be more than just an academic exercise.

 

[GreenJeans]

This is a CATHOLIC School!!! for goodness sake, not a public school. We are not talking about the general secular population attending school at a secular edicational institution. The more that I think about, the parents for these confused and scandalous students ought to be put on probation of ensuring that their children publically recant of their anti-Catholic beliefs before allowing their children to graduate. Why not?

It is a Catholic school. However, there is little difference between the views of Catholic kids on homosexuality and the general population of kids. And there is a difference between the views of Catholic kids and the official Catholic teachings. I would suggest his situation demonstrates that.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

Re This is a CATHOLIC School!!! for goodness sake If it were truly a Catholic School the students would have known the answer long ago. Somehing has been neglected in their education.

 

[setter]

It is a Catholic school. However, there is little difference between the views of Catholic kids on homosexuality and the general population of kids. And there is a difference between the views of Catholic kids and the official Catholic teachings. I would suggest his situation demonstrates that.

…your point? …any thoughts on this other than making broad generalizations?

 

[GreenJeans]

…your point? …any thoughts on this other than making broad generalizations?

My point is simply that an age continuum exists regarding acceptance of homosexuality, and we shouldn’t be surprised when it manifests itself. These kids just reflect the prevailing attitude of their peer group.

 

[setter]

Re This is a CATHOLIC School!!! for goodness sake If it were truly a Catholic School the students would have known the answer long ago. Somehing has been neglected in their education.

Yes, this:

The influence of the Church in the field of education is shown in a special manner by the Catholic school. No less than other schools does the Catholic school pursue cultural goals and the human formation of youth. But its proper function is to create for the school community a special atmosphere animated by the Gospel spirit of freedom and charity, to help youth grow according to the new creatures they were made through baptism as they develop their own personalities, and finally to order the whole of human culture to the news of salvation so that the knowledge the students gradually acquire of the world, life and man is illumined by faith.(25) So indeed the Catholic school, while it is open, as it must be, to the situation of the contemporary world, leads its students to promote efficaciously the good of the earthly city and also prepares them for service in the spread of the Kingdom of God, so that by leading an exemplary apostolic life they become, as it were, a saving leaven in the human community.

vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_gravissimum-educationis_en.html

 

[setter]

My point is simply that an age continuum exists regarding acceptance of homosexuality, and we shouldn’t be surprised when it manifests itself. These kids just reflect the prevailing attitude of their peer group.

…and how do you feel about this, if indeed it is true?

 

[GreenJeans]

…and how do you feel about this, if indeed it is true?

OK with me. How do you feel about it, if indeed it is true?

 

[Riley259]

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268951,00.html

Get this unbelievable quote from the student head of the school’s prom committee:

This zero needs to be immediately removed from the prom committee along with any other student who publically voices support for this student’s anti-Catholic behavior, IMHO.

I live 15 minutes away from this high school. Bishop Feehan high school is a private Catholic school and they are well within their rights to insist that same-sex couples don’t go to these things. The Boston Globe has an article about this in this morning’s paper - this paper constantly promotes the gay agenda and they’ll take any opportunity to make faithful Christians look unreasonable.

 

[Mirror_Mirror]

My point is simply that an age continuum exists regarding acceptance of homosexuality, and we shouldn’t be surprised when it manifests itself. These kids just reflect the prevailing attitude of their peer group.

Well goodness, we should all just throw up our hands and accept homosexual behavior because “these kids reflect the prevailing attitude of their peer group,” correct?

Can you please provide support for your claims here?

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

Both students reflect the general acceptance by their age group of homosexuality. They just don’t see it as a big deal, and don’t understand why some of their elders are concerned. The older the age group, the less acceptance there is. The younger the age group, the more acceptance there is. This will probably lead to a general social acceptance as the older cohorts hand power to the younger.

On what research, other than your own opinion, do you base such a thesis?

Setter has bothered to show you the basis of Setter’s rationale. Where’s yours?

That the younger generation appears to be “accepting” of homosexuality has no bearing on whether or not a school that claims to be Catholic should permit same-sex couples at prom. Catholic teaching states that homosexual practice is gravely disordered.

 

[GreenJeans]

On what research, other than your own opinion, do you base such a thesis?

Setter has bothered to show you the basis of Setter’s rationale. Where’s yours?

That the younger generation appears to be “accepting” of homosexuality has no bearing on whether or not a school that claims to be Catholic should permit same-sex couples at prom. Catholic teaching states that homosexual practice is gravely disordered.

Setter objects to same sex couples at the prom because it’s a Catholic school.

I observe the students reflect the general attitude of their age group. I look at poll data on the subject and see the difference among age cohorts.

There is no conflct here. He presents a normaitive, and I present an observation.

It’s perfectly reasonable to hold that a private school can do whatever it pleases. It’s also resonable to observe the attitudes of the school don’t appear to be shared by it’s graduates.

 

[pprimeau1976]

First off, the girl is “openly bisexual”. If openly means saying “I had sex with this girl” rather than saying “I find this woman attractive” then the school did the right thing. Kid’s today are so confused that just because they think another person of the opposite sex is attractive, they must be gay or bi. And the militant gay community looks for those types of people, TRUST ME.

I assume they at least sorted that out for the girl. And by doing that, they are being consistent.

Regarding the ACLU, I am sure the ACLU would have no problem if the high school stopped someone from attending the Halloween dance if they announced their intention to wear their own personal KKK hood. The situations are different, but the concepts are the same. The ACLU is hypocritical.

What is a Catholic school doing allowing a High School prom anyway? Aren’t they getting way too materialistic to begin with? Didn’t a high school already do this. I seem to remember that one school did.

 

[Dale_M]

On what research, other than your own opinion, do you base such a thesis?

Setter has bothered to show you the basis of Setter’s rationale. Where’s yours?

Good gravy, where have you been the past 10-20 years? Its well known that homosexuality is much more accepted by younger generations. This has been commented on frequently in the news.

Without doing more than a quick internet search, I found this:

A survey of students at 38 Catholic colleges–including major universities like Creighton, Loyola Marymount, Notre Dame and St. John’s of New York–reveals that graduating seniors are predominantly pro-abortion, approve of homosexual “marriage,” and only occasionally pray or attend religious services.

cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=20638

Or this…

Younger people are much more likely than older Americans to support gay marriage. Sixty-one percent of 18- to 29-year-olds favor it; that drops to just 18 percent among people 65 and older.

cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/30/opinion/polls/main565918.shtml

I could dig up the poll data which supports GreenJean’s point, but honestly are you surprised that it might be true?

That the younger generation appears to be “accepting” of homosexuality has no bearing on whether or not a school that claims to be Catholic should permit same-sex couples at prom. Catholic teaching states that homosexual practice is gravely disordered.

Now, this is a very different point and a legitimate one.

 

[blessedtoo]

Setter objects to same sex couples at the prom because it’s a Catholic school.

I observe the students reflect the general attitude of their age group. I look at poll data on the subject and see the difference among age cohorts.

There is no conflct here. He presents a normaitive, and I present an observation.

It’s perfectly reasonable to hold that a private school can do whatever it pleases. It’s also resonable to observe the attitudes of the school don’t appear to be shared by it’s graduates.

GreenJeans (aka Hoppity?), I see you have not progressed beyond “observing” the degradation of our culture and still have nothing of value to contribute to conversations regarding the issue of homosexualtiy. I suspect I will see you try, though. You really should change some of your buzzwords. “Cohort” is a dead giveaway.

 

[GreenJeans]

Observation is a mainstay of the social sciences. Accurate observation is the basis for the social sciences, and futher work cannot take place until accurate observation has been done. It’s very important to distinguish between an observation and a subsequent hypothesis or working theory. It’s simple courtesy to let readers know what is being conveyed.

Observation is not degradation. If properly done, it describes reality. Observation shows us that attitudes on homosexuality vary by the age of the cohort. This is not degradation. Observation also shows us there is a gulf developing between the official teachings of religions and the self identified followers of that religion. That observation is also not degradation. Catholic social scientists at Catholic universities make the very same observations, and I would hardly call that degradation.

 

[Mijoy2]

I may be mistaken but I believe the couple (or at least 1/2 the couple) in question is a self proclaimed bisexual. The claim of being “bisexual” in my opinion, is detremental to the homosexual cause. I may have sympathy for the homosexual who was theoretically (which in my personal opinion is likely true in many cases) born that way. For they, if they elect to follow the churches teachings certainly have a huge cross to bare throughout thier lifetime. The word, “courage” is certainly fitting. But “bisexuality” (especially if used in the light of homosexuality) begets zero sympathy from me.

The bisexual has no more cross to bare then the heterosexual who is either single, or the heterosexual who is married and works to avoid temptation. Talk about having your cake and eating it too. How is the bisexual not simply promiscuous?

 

[setter]

OK with me.

Then you are not Catholic, and in fact secular in your values.

How do you feel about it, if indeed it is true?

Are you being rhetorical? …I believe that I have adequately expressed my disappointment over the cultural compromise exhibited by some of the student population, and by way extension, the parents of these students, attending and sending their children to this Catholic high school.