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The sexual urge is the second strongest one we have. For some it is more of a struggle than for others. Yet also some need more help. Go to Sex and Love Addicts, a 12 step program which works. Use a search engine to find help under “masturbation”. The very last thing the devil wants you to know is that you will survive if you don’t give in. We can learn to change how we respond with our thoughts of lust. Frequent attendance of Mass and reception of communion help much. You will learn why you obsess with these thoughts. With that knowledge you will be able to get through this difficult period.
 
So I was under the impression after reading parts of “The Catechism for Dummies” (written by a catholic, it quotes the Catechism and explains the important stuff for those of you who are unfamilliar and may be thrown off by the name) that although masturbation IS a sin, it is NOT one of those clear-cut things. For example, they cited someone who masturbated daily without knowing it was a sin (and therefore it wouldn’t be a sin due to the lack of full knowledge), and then found out it was sinful.

Since this person was SO used to it, it’s like trying to quit smoking (any substance for that matter) cold turkey. Sometimes it works and most times it fails and causes the person in question a lot of suffering. Instead, you’re supposed to repent for what you’ve done and if you do give in, to pray for more strength and take it one day at a time. That way you are always working to become more Christlike, even though we are not Christ and are able to fail once in a while. God will never stop loving us, no matter what.

That’s how I look at it. Hope it helped! So stay strong, repent if you give in, try your hardest to fight it, but don’t go to any extremes that might hurt God’s plan for you in the future (cut off your hands so that you CANT masturbate, etc.) and don’t get too down about failing. We all do it, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. We all have our weaknesses and just need to do our best. That’s the most that God can ask of us.

The thing that I heard that helps me most is that “God won’t make a mountain that you can’t climb” In other words, no challenge is too big to overcome with Gods help.

Peace!
 
Is masturbation wrong if I don’t fantasize while doing it? Just as a release? I have so much sexual tension in me right now and I think I might just explode…no literally it feels physically stressful…
its ok masturbation is perfectly normal i have a website for you is called healthystrokes.com
 
So I was under the impression after reading parts of “The Catechism for Dummies” (written by a catholic, it quotes the Catechism and explains the important stuff for those of you who are unfamilliar and may be thrown off by the name) that although masturbation IS a sin, it is NOT one of those clear-cut things. For example, they cited someone who masturbated daily without knowing it was a sin (and therefore it wouldn’t be a sin due to the lack of full knowledge), and then found out it was sinful.

Since this person was SO used to it, it’s like trying to quit smoking (any substance for that matter) cold turkey. Sometimes it works and most times it fails and causes the person in question a lot of suffering. Instead, you’re supposed to repent for what you’ve done and if you do give in, to pray for more strength and take it one day at a time. That way you are always working to become more Christlike, even though we are not Christ and are able to fail once in a while. God will never stop loving us, no matter what.

That’s how I look at it. Hope it helped! So stay strong, repent if you give in, try your hardest to fight it, but don’t go to any extremes that might hurt God’s plan for you in the future (cut off your hands so that you CANT masturbate, etc.) and don’t get too down about failing. We all do it, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. We all have our weaknesses and just need to do our best. That’s the most that God can ask of us.

The thing that I heard that helps me most is that “God won’t make a mountain that you can’t climb” In other words, no challenge is too big to overcome with Gods help.

Peace!
Well I think at this point in my life I’m addicted. I’m trying to work past it and, thank God, I’ve made so much progress. But if I do it again, do I just pray and then receive Communion? I honestly don’t think God would send me to hell for doing something I’m biologically wired for and in adolescence…I don’t know. Maybe it’s not my place to decide whether I’m innocent or not, but I just don’t want to be too hard on myself considering my age.😊
 
What advice does your priest give you? I’m 30 and my confessor says I’m too hard on myself! I think we need to keep it in perspective…while the church declares it disorderd and can’t condone it, the Church sees a myriad of circumstances that lessen the culpability of the person that performs the disordered act. Habit and immaturity are a couple of factors. If your confessor helps you to see that these are present in your life, then you can dust yourself off, keep struggling, and recieve the Eucharist.

I think the goal here is to never embrace it; never say ‘the hell with it, I’m going to do it anyway with a clean and free will and have no regrets.’ If you and your confessor can figure out if you have any mitigating circumstances behind the act, as long as you struggle and have a goal to break free, then you do not condemn yourself. If you make a hobby out of it, well, that’s a different ballgame!
 
What advice does your priest give you? I’m 30 and my confessor says I’m too hard on myself! I think we need to keep it in perspective…while the church declares it disorderd and can’t condone it, the Church sees a myriad of circumstances that lessen the culpability of the person that performs the disordered act. Habit and immaturity are a couple of factors. If your confessor helps you to see that these are present in your life, then you can dust yourself off, keep struggling, and recieve the Eucharist.

I think the goal here is to never embrace it; never say ‘the hell with it, I’m going to do it anyway with a clean and free will and have no regrets.’ If you and your confessor can figure out if you have any mitigating circumstances behind the act, as long as you struggle and have a goal to break free, then you do not condemn yourself. If you make a hobby out of it, well, that’s a different ballgame!
My Confessor is at the point with me where he knows I’m young (19) and that I’m desperately trying. He is currently helping me root out the causes (pornography and other occasions of sin), but he hasn’t specifically ever said that I’m a-okay to receive if I have done it. He does imply it though, because sometimes he won’t even give me advice, he’ll just say a prayer that I can learn to be other-centered and break my addiction (this making me think that if I was really doing something just pure wrong, he would be a little more forward than just an indirect prayer for me)
 
Well I think at this point in my life I’m addicted. I’m trying to work past it and, thank God, I’ve made so much progress. But if I do it again, do I just pray and then receive Communion? I honestly don’t think God would send me to hell for doing something I’m biologically wired for and in adolescence…I don’t know. Maybe it’s not my place to decide whether I’m innocent or not, but I just don’t want to be too hard on myself considering my age.😊
Why chance further sin by receiving if you are in doubt?

Just go to confession, weekly, heck daily, if necessary before receiving.

I commend you for trying to do the right thing.

God Bless
 
I guess the doubt would mitigate any mortal sin, if we’re trying to avoid irritating my mild scrupulosity.
I don’t know how scrupulous you are. If it’s a real problem, then you should listen strictly to your confessor.

For me, not scrupulous, if I think I may have committed a mortal sin, I’ll just assume I have, and confess before receiving. But with me, it’s not a daily or weekly thing. Maybe every couple of months, but I’m a lot older than you, and married, which helps.

With masturbation, since it is definitively grave matter, and you have to intentionally do it, I’d err on the side of assuming the sin is mortal. If you were talking about impure thoughts, or anger, I’d err on the side of them not being mortal, because thoughts are often involuntary.

Remember, going to confession is never a bad thing. Not receiving now and then is not bad either. It was the norm until 150 yrs ago to recieve only a handful of times per year, immediately following confession.

God Bless and keep up the good fight!
 
I guess the doubt would mitigate any mortal sin, if we’re trying to avoid irritating my mild scrupulosity.
No, I do not think doubt would mitigate a mortal sin. More likely, doubt would be an indicator that your conscience may need a little tweaking, though, based on your other posts, I suspect it would not need much. You seem to have your head screwed on straight.

As this is a grave sin and you know it is a grave sin and you cannot really do it accidentally (therefore you consent knowing it is seriously wrong), it would always be a mortal sin. While age and force of habit, according to the Catechism, can mitigate some of the seriousness of an individual act of this, it does not say to what degree. Even with mortal sins, some are more grave than others.

On the other hand, viewing pornography is also a grave sin and the Cathechism does say anything about habit mitigating the seriousness of that sin.

Presume that each time you do this, you are committing a mortal sin. This will, by the way, help you to stop this as the immediate consequence of doing this means you cannot receive communion until you go to confession. That can help you overcome this.
 
Is it a mortal sin to mastubate?

Sorry if it’s a dumb question, I’m not very good at distinguishing between the two, but know venial sins are ok to recieve communion because you say that bit before it…know the bit? Say your sorry etc before communion, where as mortal you have to confess them to the priest and do penance?

Am I right:shrug: I’m a little rusty on catholic stuff
 
Is it a mortal sin to mastubate?

Sorry if it’s a dumb question, I’m not very good at distinguishing between the two, but know venial sins are ok to recieve communion because you say that bit before it…know the bit? Say your sorry etc before communion, where as mortal you have to confess them to the priest and do penance?

Am I right:shrug: I’m a little rusty on catholic stuff
Yes, masturbation almost always mortal, like all sexual sins.

Venial sins are forgiven BY receiving communion, not the “Lord I am not worthy…”. But otherwise you are correct.

God Bless
 
Is it a mortal sin to mastubate?
If we’re being “legal”, then yes. But this is one of the mortal sins that is difficult for both the Clergy and Lay People to handle and nearly every case is based on the individual.

The Church holds Her Truth that it is, and we see why by learning about our sexuality, but again, it can get fuzzy and start to run on an individual basis at times. It’s all up to what your Confessor says basically based on the situation he believes you’re in at that time of your life.
 
For help on quitting masturbation, see the suggestions in the following link:

geocities.com/paul_ervine/stop-masturbating.html

👍

By the way, I did not review the link to see if it contained any questionable material so be careful! 😉
Ha-ha-ha-haaa!
I mean, it contains the famous Mormon (or pseudo-Mormone) tips that are killing funny; I’d love to quote my favourites but it’ll make me quote a lot. Better go and read all.
geocities.com/paul_ervine/aguide.html

Warning: do not drink or eat in front of your monitor while reading to avoid bursting and damaging its surface.
 
As this is a grave sin and you know it is a grave sin and you cannot really do it accidentally (therefore you consent knowing it is seriously wrong), it would always be a mortal sin. While age and force of habit, according to the Catechism, can mitigate some of the seriousness of an individual act of this, it does not say to what degree. Even with mortal sins, some are more grave than others.
uff…I can honestly say that I was disappointed when I read this post…God help us all :o 😃
 
uff…I can honestly say that I was disappointed when I read this post…God help us all :o 😃
He does 🙂 And with His help it is possible to mostly if not completely eliminate this sin - I did, and I was deeply ensnared by it.

Through frequent use of the sacrament of confession, the Eucharist whenever possible, prayer (lots of it, and frequently during the day rather than just when temptation strikes), and avoiding as much as possible any tv shows, conversations, movies, music or whatever else may lead you, it is possible.

Above all don’t expect such an ingrained habit to disappear overnight. Focus on going one day, then two days, then longer, without it.
 
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