Masturbation, I need help

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With all due respect, I would like to remind you that this is a Catholic website. Before you give advice to Catholics, please do your best to at least learn and understand the Catholic position. Do not give advice that is contrary to what the Catholic faith teaches. Your intentions may have been sincere, but you have just encouraged a young man to commit a mortal sin. Masturbation is still a mortal sin even if you choose to ignore this fact.

That being said, here is what the Catholic Church teaches concerning masturbation:

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 “The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects’ moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

Source: Catechism of the Catholic Church
vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

Since you are a protestant, I would also like to add that many protestant denominations consider masturbation to be a sin. Although some denominations do not consider masturbation to be sinful, all denominations acknowledge that lust is a sin. Since it is very unlikely that you will be able to masturbate without fantasising about sex, you are also guilty of the sin of lust even if you do not think the act of masturbation is sinful. If I were you, I would seriously question your views on this subject.
I think that one has to understand what the sin of lust is. A male being physically attracted to women is not a sin. The sin of lust happens when the sex is purely for selfish reasons. An example would be where a man has sex or fantisizes of sex where the women is nothing. She is just an object of his physical satisfaction and he care nothing for her. Here the male sex drive is being used for lust and is dehumanizing and evil as it does not see the woman as a precious person.

True sex however where the man expresses his emotional love to the woman is not in the sin of lust. Of course there is a physical aspect to it, but it is not being used in sinful manner. Likewise if the fantacies are fantacies of expressing love to a woman, then it is not the sin of lust.

Sex is a part of our being. It certainly can however be used in dehumanizing people. This form of sex is wrong and is against God. True sex however that expresses love and total commitment for another is good and was made by God. Surpressing fantacies of this is not healthy to one’s spiritual growth.

If any of you out there find that what I have written is just so massively offensive and so totally against the Catholic church, then you have my appologies. My intention is not to hurt people on this. I am trying to correct views which I see as distorted. If you don’t agree with me don’t. It is your choice.
 
I think that one has to understand what the sin of lust is. A male being physically attracted to women is not a sin. The sin of lust happens when the sex is purely for selfish reasons. An example would be where a man has sex or fantisizes of sex where the women is nothing. She is just an object of his physical satisfaction and he care nothing for her. Here the male sex drive is being used for lust and is dehumanizing and evil as it does not see the woman as a precious person.

True sex however where the man expresses his emotional love to the woman is not in the sin of lust. Of course there is a physical aspect to it, but it is not being used in sinful manner. Likewise if the fantacies are fantacies of expressing love to a woman, then it is not the sin of lust.

Sex is a part of our being. It certainly can however be used in dehumanizing people. This form of sex is wrong and is against God. True sex however that expresses love and total commitment for another is good and was made by God. Surpressing fantacies of this is not healthy to one’s spiritual growth.

If any of you out there find that what I have written is just so massively offensive and so totally against the Catholic church, then you have my apologies. My intention is not to hurt people on this. I am trying to correct views which I see as distorted. If you don’t agree with me don’t. It is your choice.
You’re not that far off from the Catholic position, but the big thing missing is your failure to connect the emotional aspect with the physical aspect. You claim that masturbation is OK because the fantasies employed are a method of loving a woman in the emotional sense, implying that the loved one need not be present.

Christianity has taught for two millenia that the physical expression of love is intimately tied with body. And that requires two people who are in the same room, not mere “thoughts” of the loved one.

I could also mention the fact that sex is a platform for two interconnected “ends.” One is the mutual expression of love (which masturbation obviously lacks) and the other is for procreation (which masturbation again lacks). This is not to say that procreation must be the result (or even desired) with every act of intercourse, but Christian teaching has always held that those two “ends” must not be artificially separated.

I suspect that you also have no problem with contraception (which was also condemned by all Protestant denominations until the 20th century). Perhaps you could read some threads on this forum about that, and I think you will come to see why masturbation is a twisting of the intended purposes of sex.
 
You’re not that far off from the Catholic position, but the big thing missing is your failure to connect the emotional aspect with the physical aspect. You claim that masturbation is OK because the fantasies employed are a method of loving a woman in the emotional sense, implying that the loved one need not be present.
Christianity has taught for two millenia that the physical expression of love is intimately tied with body. And that requires two people who are in the same room, not mere “thoughts” of the loved one.
I could also mention the fact that sex is a platform for two interconnected “ends.” One is the mutual expression of love (which masturbation obviously lacks) and the other is for procreation (which masturbation again lacks). This is not to say that procreation must be the result (or even desired) with every act of intercourse, but Christian teaching has always held that those two “ends” must not be artificially separated.
I suspect that you also have no problem with contraception (which was also condemned by all Protestant denominations until the 20th century). Perhaps you could read some threads on this forum about that, and I think you will come to see why masturbation is a twisting of the intended purposes of sex.
Very well said.

I hope this helps Seeker100 understand, and accept, the Catholic position on human sexuality.
 
You’re not that far off from the Catholic position, but the big thing missing is your failure to connect the emotional aspect with the physical aspect. You claim that masturbation is OK because the fantasies employed are a method of loving a woman in the emotional sense, implying that the loved one need not be present.

Christianity has taught for two millenia that the physical expression of love is intimately tied with body. And that requires two people who are in the same room, not mere “thoughts” of the loved one.

I could also mention the fact that sex is a platform for two interconnected “ends.” One is the mutual expression of love (which masturbation obviously lacks) and the other is for procreation (which masturbation again lacks). This is not to say that procreation must be the result (or even desired) with every act of intercourse, but Christian teaching has always held that those two “ends” must not be artificially separated.

I suspect that you also have no problem with contraception (which was also condemned by all Protestant denominations until the 20th century). Perhaps you could read some threads on this forum about that, and I think you will come to see why masturbation is a twisting of the intended purposes of sex.
If one is a concert pianist one must practice before the concert. The piano playing at the concert is for others to hear. The concert pianist however must learn to play the piano before playing in a concert. Practicing alone is not a selfish thing as it is training for the real thing.
 
If one is a concert pianist one must practice before the concert. The piano playing at the concert is for others to hear. The concert pianist however must learn to play the piano before playing in a concert. Practicing alone is not a selfish thing as it is training for the real thing.
You could use this logic to condone sex before marriage; and we all know that sex outside of marriage is sinful.

However, I don’t want to stray off topic. I just hope that Sythix (the OP) has learned something by our conversation. The important thing for him to know is that the Catholic Church considers masturbation to be sinful. If he wants to remain in a state of grace, he must not masturbate. If he commits this particular sin in the future, he must confess this to his priest.
 
If one is a concert pianist one must practice before the concert. The piano playing at the concert is for others to hear. The concert pianist however must learn to play the piano before playing in a concert. Practicing alone is not a selfish thing as it is training for the real thing.
But sex is an act that is designed to involve two people. Playing the piano is not an interaction that is designed as an intercourse that always requires two people. You may play the piano for practice or for your own enjoyment – the purpose or ends of playing the piano are fulfilled either way.

But the purpose and ends of sex by definition require a giver and a recipient.
 
Sythix - What could also help you is reading the Theology of the Body. There is a version focused on teens called the Theology of the Body for Teens in both book form and DVD form. (The DVDs are a little pricey, but sometimes they show the episodes on EWTN).
 
Hey this is my first post I just found this website and I would really like to know how to stop masturbation im 15 and Im catholic, I feel it is pulling me away from God and I dont know how to stop Ive made vows to myself that I would never do it again but I have failed many times. Please help me this is torture.
I’m 23, and I struggle with masturbation too. I’ve made vows as well, and broke them several times. I’ve finally realized that I cannot beat this habit by myself. I have to keep praying to God to give me the grace and strength to fight it. When I finally realized this, it felt like it became easier to fight. Prayer, spiritual reading, and the sacraments are what will help you. Keep fighting! 👍
 
A great book on this is “Every Young Man’s Battle: Strategies for Victory in the Real World of Sexual Temptation”. I’m not sure if Catholic young men/adult men practice this, but think about having an “accountability partner”: a male in your age group and preferrably in the same stage of life as you (high school, college, single, etc), who can keep you spiritually accountable. They will pray for you, pray with you, support you, maintain confidentiality, and share their personal stories of fighting temptation.
 
Hey this is my first post I just found this website and I would really like to know how to stop masturbation im 15 and Im catholic, I feel it is pulling me away from God and I dont know how to stop Ive made vows to myself that I would never do it again but I have failed many times. Please help me this is torture.
You need to find a good confessor and go often. Both when you sin in this way and when you are dwelling on the things that get you to the sin. Christ said that adultury is both physical but can also be mental. This is the main aid Christ through the priests has given us as a remedy for all our sins. May God bless you!
 
Next time you feel the urge to engage in this sin rather commit an act of mortification. As it says in scripture if your hand offends you chop it off. Study the ways of the saints and how they fought to control their own issues. Both mental and physical punishment is necessary. Christ did both from the cross and now its your turn.
 
Dear Sythix,

You are not alone, and this problem is one of the hardest to fight.

When I returned to the Church some few years ago, I prayed much that God would guide me in knowing his will and in fulfilling it. At that time, I still masturbated and didn’t think much of it, but slowly over time, God led me to understand the true purpose of sex, and it is not for self-gratification. The physical satisfaction in climaxing is only the byproduct or end result of the expression of a perfect love between a man and a woman, not an end in itself, to be sought after. This level of pure love, by the way, is illusory in our sinful state of being.

It was not until I understood this, and decided that pleasing God was more important than pleasing myself, that I was able to stop.

Make the commitment. You will probably fail many times, but each time, get up off the floor and start over.

All the best to you, in Christ.
expressed beautifully !
 
One thing a priest once said to my husband was to remember that God is with you ALWAYS!
Sometimes it helps to make it more personal, too. My father passed away a few years ago and, to me, he is still present. So, yeah. eww! I’m married, too, and doing this would mean being unfaithful to my husband. In the OP’s case, it would be a matter of thinking about what you will be offering to the woman that you love someday. Whether it’s a man pure in body and spirit or a man who has been tainted by sexual gratification outside of God’s love. Remember, what you choose to do physically effects your soul and can draw you further from God. God made you precious because he loves you. We try to keep ourself precious to honor God and to honor our spouses.

The most helpful thing for me was talking with a priest who was a good confessor. He pointed out that this act is usually an issue when we are feeling powerless over something in our lives.
God will help you through this!
Yes he will. I applaud the recommendation to go to St. Joseph, the most chase spouse. Also really helpful, St. Augustine. If you can listen to Fr. Corapi speak on this subject, he’s a terrific source. There are some good threads already on this topic (always are, this is probably the most common sin confessed. It’s insidious.) Remember that whatever we do to ourselves, effects what we ultimately offer our beloved. There’s the issue of depression, too, people can feel let down or depressed after masturbating. Ask yourself, does it make you happy when it’s over or do you feel dejected? That’s never happened after my husband and I express our love for eachother in the way that God intended. Masturbation takes from you, uses you, the other is giving yourself, a precious gift, to another.

What are you doing before hand that leads up to this? Avoid the near occasion. For young men today it is difficult. The way women dress and take such pride in looking 'hot" rather than looking beautiful, the garbage on tv, in magazines and on the internet all become challenging. You are under attack. Maybe watching certain shows is not such a good idea. Find out what your triggers are.

Lastly, find an alternate action when you start to feel like following this desire. Retrain yourself. Eat ice cream (ok, that might make you gain a lot of weight, eh?). You get the idea. Smokers sometimes ride and exercise bike or go for a walk when they get a craving, gets the pulse rate up and helps feed the craving, so that it recedes. You may find yourself running a lot. Make it a game, write a few things, put 'em in a bowl, when you’re heading that direction pick one. Get creative. Write a prayer. Point is, DO something instead, doesn’t really matter what, just take action. Do you want to be at the mercy of your desires or the master of your own body?

JMHO There is some really wonderful advice here (except for the recommendation to practice, of course). Too many great posts to point them all out, but really wonderful supportive group! 👍 God bless you for taking the time to consider this and address it.

May you find peace.
 
Sythix - What could also help you is reading the Theology of the Body. There is a version focused on teens called the Theology of the Body for Teens in both book form and DVD form. (The DVDs are a little pricey, but sometimes they show the episodes on EWTN).
I think studying Theology of the Body is a great recommendation. A better understanding of human sexuality is hugely beneficial when struggling with sexual temptations. Knowledge alone does not make us better people-- that also requires the constant and devoted practice of avoiding evil and doing good empowered by God’s grace-- but understanding definitely helps. 👍
I’m not sure if Catholic young men/adult men practice this, but think about having an “accountability partner”: a male in your age group and preferrably in the same stage of life as you (high school, college, single, etc), who can keep you spiritually accountable. They will pray for you, pray with you, support you, maintain confidentiality, and share their personal stories of fighting temptation.
I think this can also be a very good recommendation. You don’t need to go it alone. Friendship, especially when friends are united in a common cause for good, is powerful. This requires finding someone committed to Christ, someone you trust, and someone you are willing to commit to just as you wish them to commit to you. If you don’t know anyone like that, keep looking!
You need to find a good confessor and go often.
Agreed. A good confessor is a real ally. But even if you cannot find a good confessor, the sacrament is a true blessing, strengthening us to begin the good fight anew.
The most helpful thing for me was talking with a priest who was a good confessor. He pointed out that this act is usually an issue when we are feeling powerless over something in our lives.
Yes, masturbation is sometimes a form of “self-medication” but, like drinking too much alcohol, not a truly beneficial one. A good confessor can help you investigate whether this is what’s going on, and perhaps direct you toward addressing the underlying problems (e.g. I feel lonely, unloved, powerless, scared, angry, etc.) in a more beneficial way.

Masturbation may at times become more tempting when one is full of energy better spent elsewhere. One of my friends discovered, after much reflection, that he was more likely to masturbate when his creative energy was stifled or frustrated. When he gave himself more time to engage in the creative endeavors he loved (in own his case, activities like drawing and theatre), his desire to masturbate waned.
What are you doing before hand that leads up to this? Avoid the near occasion… Find out what your triggers are.
Yes. When you feel tempted, take good look at what’s going on. If you can locate the triggers, you can begin to avoid or defuse them.
find an alternate action when you start to feel like following this desire. Retrain yourself… Smokers sometimes ride and exercise bike or go for a walk when they get a craving… You may find yourself running a lot. Make it a game, write a few things, put 'em in a bowl, when you’re heading that direction pick one. Get creative. Write a prayer. Point is, DO something instead, doesn’t really matter what, just take action.
Good advice. And if you do find a good confessor and/or accountability partner, share ideas.
Do you want to be at the mercy of your desires or the master of your own body?
Self-control is really an underappreciated virtue, but there’s so much power for good in it. As you acquire this virtue, you can give yourself to God more completely and accomplish greater and greater things for him and for everyone around you.

Perhaps another suggestion is not to focus exclusively on the masturbation problem when striving to acquire the virtue of self-control. Other small acts of self-denial can be great practice. You might, for example, abstain from sweets, soft drinks, snacks, television, or gaming on certain days of the week. But if you give up an activity, like watching television, make sure that doesn’t become time you might be tempted to do something wrong. Do something positive during that time instead, like reading, walking outside, praying, cooking a meal for your family or washing dishes, etc. When this small denial becomes easy, choose a different one.

Don’t worry, and don’t freak out and berate yourself if you mess up. Repent, ask God’s forgiveness, get back up, and start fresh. Don’t focus on what you did wrong in the past, but on what you can do right in the present.

We’re all works in progress. 👍
 
Think about the possible negative consequences of a mortal sin like masturbation. At the very least more years in purgatory. That way I managed to avoid it.
 
I prefer to think of what is gained through the virtue of chastity. 🙂
 
I don’t understand the question? I said “the virtue of chastity.” 🙂
 
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