Masturbation, is it good for you?

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What about wet-dreams? Are they sinful, too? Seriously. What if you do ‘something’ else for a long, long time, abstain from sex completely, only to discover you’re experiencing wet-dreams, due to sperm-build-up? Again, seriously. Is that sinful? Remember – they occur when you’re asleep.🤷
 
Mirror_Mirror said:
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Please be careful in making assumptions such as this…you have no way to substantiate this claim.

Does masturbation physically kill us? No. But the spiritual and emotional damage, how does one measure that?
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Yes I know it was quite an assumption, but I’m just saying there are many out there who never masturbate, and they’re not dieing from it.
 
PauloFreire2 said:
What about wet-dreams? Are they sinful, too? Seriously. What if you do ‘something’ else for a long, long time, abstain from sex completely, only to discover you’re experiencing wet-dreams, due to sperm-build-up? Again, seriously. Is that sinful? Remember – they occur when you’re asleep.🤷
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Sleep and intentionality are not really compatible in my view.

It’s like a child not going to the toilet for a long, long time, and wetting his/her bed. Same issue.
 
PauloFreire2 said:
What about wet-dreams? Are they sinful, too? Seriously. What if you do ‘something’ else for a long, long time, abstain from sex completely, only to discover you’re experiencing wet-dreams, due to sperm-build-up? Again, seriously. Is that sinful? Remember – they occur when you’re asleep.🤷
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Wet-dreams are OK. They’re not intentional.
 
Margita said:
So what? Is your faith based on St Paul only?

YOu also stated in one of your above posts that masturbation is “safe sex” - I wonder what you meant by that, for I do not recall St Paul including it in any of his epistles. :rolleyes:
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I meant that one does not contract any STDs from it.
 
goofyjim said:
I meant that one does not contract any STDs from it.
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Well, child-abuse is just as safe as masturbation, then… :rolleyes: You won’t catch AIDS from a child, will you…
The fact that masturbation will not make you physically ill has no say in deciding whether it is sinful or not.
 
Margita said:
Well, child-abuse is just as safe as masturbation, then… :rolleyes: You won’t catch AIDS from a child, will you…
The fact that masturbation will not make you physically ill has no say in deciding whether it is sinful or not.
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Where are you developing that reasoning. I never brought up child abuse. And I didn’t say that it wasn’t sinful. I just have my doubts about its mortal sinfulness based on scripture.
 
I’m not sure I’d compare the Holocaust to masturbation, but ok. lol
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To the extent that my analogy is concerned, the minute an advocate of masturbation makes the claim that a single positive effect automatically proves a phenomenon to be moral, they’ve already forced the comparison.
 
Because of the strength of the sexual urge (a blessing from God to ensure the continuation of the human race, I’m sure), one has to consider what uncontrolled masterbation will lead to. I believe that most boys, if not all, (and girls too) do “it” a bit–that’s certainly normal (not that this makes it right in a moral sense, but I’m leaving that up to our merciful God to judge in each person’s circumstances and heart). But…Where does a little something in the shower end? In my case it didn’t end with the shower, or marriage for that matter. And, in addition to any moral culpability for my “solitary” sin, I have to answer for involving others (the old “mill stone” tied around my neck) because of complicity.

If there is pleasure for a fellow to masterbate himself in the shower, there may be more enjoyment in having a woman, let’s say for example at the massage parlor, perform this act on the guy. Now I’ve involved another person in my sin. If she happens to work at the parlor to pay off a debt for bringing her to the U.S. from another country, I may be exploiting her.

If the woman I use to fulfill my fantasies provides services (provocative material: pictures, videos, DVDs, personal items, etc) over the Internet, then I am encouraging her in her sinful behavior or supporting her addiction (exhibitionism, need for reassurance, false intimacy, etc.).

Extreme conclusions? I can only speak from experience and what I’ve heard other men talk about at Sexaholics Anon meetings. It began with a little “controlled” pleasure in the shower as a 13-year-old; and has continued through 36 years of marriage with my sexually deprived wife; many massage parlors; complicity with countless female providers on the Internet; hundreds of dollars; and over 2,500 confessions in the Sacrament of Reconciliation promising God that I’d get this thing under control “this time.”

The monster sleeps in the next room; please, don’t open the door.
 
I know what you mean. I used to masturbate a lot. It got weird. I started fantasizing about stealing, instead of arousing sex partners. Next thing I knew I was ripping off cars in East L.A., expecting better masturbation as a result. One thing led another, and I ended up here, in San Quentin, doing life as a habitual criminal. It all started with masturbation.:o 👍 😊
 
PauloFreire2 said:
I know what you mean. I used to masturbate a lot. It got weird. I started fantasizing about stealing, instead of arousing sex partners. Next thing I knew I was ripping off cars in East L.A., expecting better masturbation as a result. One thing led another, and I ended up here, in San Quentin, doing life as a habitual criminal. It all started with masturbation.:o 👍 😊
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Funny it never led me in that direction. It prevents me from going out and having promiscuous sex.
 
goofyjim said:
Funny it never led me in that direction. It prevents me from going out and having promiscuous sex.
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Burning kittens may prevent me from going out and burning humans, doesn’t mean its right.
 
jrnami said:
Of course I’m not. This sin leads to other sins. Maturbation is always associated with psychopathic killings, and it also is part of the fantasy lives of other sexual predators.
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Please cite your source for this foolish notion. I am not even in the least drawn towards killing and I am not a predator.
 
CHCatholic said:
Burning kittens may prevent me from going out and burning humans, doesn’t mean its right.
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I don’t burn kittens or humans.😛 I have a feeling we are more hung up over this as a Church than God is. He knows our weaknesses.
 
goofyjim said:
I don’t burn kittens or humans.😛 I have a feeling we are more hung up over this as a Church than God is. He knows our weaknesses.
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Your resistance to listen to people that have been caught up in this is stunning, I’m not sure why you are reacting the way you are but it leads me to believe you are having a greater struggle in this area than what you are leading us to believe.
 
Michael_Howard said:
Your resistance to listen to people that have been caught up in this is stunning, I’m not sure why you are reacting the way you are but it leads me to believe you are having a greater struggle in this area than what you are leading us to believe.
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That’s for me to know. When I do confess it and explain the circumstances to priests who are very loyal to the Church they usually mention that unless one is completely able to say they are doing it despite the fact that it is mortal or whatever, meaning doing it to deliberately challenge the Creator, it is not fulfilling the mortal sin requirement and therefore it is not a concern. I have often been told rather than beat myself over the times I have fallen rejoice higher number of times I have been able to resist.
 
goofyjim said:
That’s for me to know. When I do confess it and explain the circumstances to priests who are very loyal to the Church they usually mention that unless one is completely able to say they are doing it despite the fact that it is mortal or whatever, meaning doing it to deliberately challenge the Creator, it is not fulfilling the mortal sin requirement and therefore it is not a concern. I have often been told rather than beat myself over the times I have fallen rejoice higher number of times I have been able to resist.
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Have you considered marriage?😃
 
Ahimsa said:
Have you considered marriage?😃
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Not at the present moment.😛 But to assume that someone who masturbates turns into a psychopathic killer is kind of lunacy. A psychopath derives from situations other than that.
 
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