Matthew 24:36

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I am looking for a “succinct” explanation of one part of Matthew 24:36.
Below is from the New American translation. Jesus is talking

“As for the exact day or hour, no knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor
the Son, but the Father only.”

The key part would like to key on is “the Son”. If taken literally someone
could infer that Jesus did not know when the end times were. Some non
Christians use that to say look-that shows that Jesus is not God.

Is the answer-that since Jesus when talking was both God and man. That
his human side did not know the answer about the end times. But his divine side
did?

Thanks for clearing this up. Also if have an answer-please sight a source.

Timothy
 
To all:

I am looking for a “succinct” explanation of one part of Matthew 24:36.
Below is from the New American translation. Jesus is talking

“As for the exact day or hour, no knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor
the Son, but the Father only.”

The key part would like to key on is “the Son”. If taken literally someone
could infer that Jesus did not know when the end times were. Some non
Christians use that to say look-that shows that Jesus is not God.

Is the answer-that since Jesus when talking was both God and man. That
his human side did not know the answer about the end times. But his divine side
did?
Thanks for clearing this up. Also if have an answer-please sight a source.
Timothy
Rather, look at this way…that everything was predestined by the Father and it is in everything that the Son submits Himself to the Father. So it was predestined by the Father that He would send His Son into the world…the Son being a loyal son to His Father submits Himself to His Father’s will. This is pretty much stated in Hebrews. With this said it was predestined by the Father to bring out the end of the world so His Son will submit to His will.
Hebrews 10:7-9
Then I said, ‘Lo, I have come to do thy will, O God,’ as it is written of me in the roll of the book." When he said above, “Thou hast neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings” (these are offered according to the law), then he added, “Lo, I have come to do thy will.” He abolishes the first in order to establish the second.
 
To all:

I am looking for a “succinct” explanation of one part of Matthew 24:36.
Below is from the New American translation. Jesus is talking

“As for the exact day or hour, no knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor
the Son, but the Father only.”

The key part would like to key on is “the Son”. If taken literally someone
could infer that Jesus did not know when the end times were. Some non
Christians use that to say look-that shows that Jesus is not God.

Is the answer-that since Jesus when talking was both God and man. That
his human side did not know the answer about the end times. But his divine side
did?

Thanks for clearing this up. Also if have an answer-please sight a source.

Timothy
Fr. Mitch Pacwa just explained this quite well. Simply put, Jesus, not deeming equality with God something to be grasped at (Philippians 2:6-7), emptied Himself. In that humble state of human emptiness, He did/could not know the Father’s plan. All who seek to know the Father’s plan fail to humble themselves in imitation of Jesus. Note that Paul did not claim or seek any such knowledge. What he did was to teach that we should imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).
 
To all:

I am looking for a “succinct” explanation of one part of Matthew 24:36.
Below is from the New American translation. Jesus is talking

“As for the exact day or hour, no knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor
the Son, but the Father only.”

The key part would like to key on is “the Son”. If taken literally someone
could infer that Jesus did not know when the end times were. Some non
Christians use that to say look-that shows that Jesus is not God.

Is the answer-that since Jesus when talking was both God and man. That
his human side did not know the answer about the end times. But his divine side
did?

Thanks for clearing this up. Also if have an answer-please sight a source.

Timothy
Timothy,

I am not sure if this is succintly put but this is the commentary in my bible under the verse that you quoted. I was orginally going to post what the dogma said, but as it was too complex for me to explain, I thought I would use the commentary instead.

This is the commentary out of the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible New Testament, Second Catholic Edition RSV

Matthew 24:36, nor the Son, but the Father: This syaing is comparable to Matthew 20:23, where Jesus says that the Father, not the Son, makes royal appointments of rank. Here also ONLY THE Father appoints the time of the Son’s royal return in glory. Christ’s professed ignorance of this DAY and HOURS may be understood as hyperbole [overstatement], a teaching device used by Jewish rabbis and Jesus himself [see the following passages for examples, Matthew 5:34, Matthew 23:9, Luke 14:26].

Tradition maintains that Jesus’ apparant ignorance is not a literal statement, but a figurative expression; for the Father and the Son share everything in common, including their divine knowledge: Matthew 11:27, John 3:35, John 10:15, and John 17:25. Here Jesus does not display any HUMAN knowledge of the time when the Father will send the Son to judge all nations, because this mystery lies beyond the scope of what the Father intends the Son to reveal.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

Paragraph 472 - This human soul that the Son of God assumed is endowed with a true human knowledge. As such, this knowledge could not in itself be unlimited: it was excercised in the historical conditions of his existence in space and time. This is why the SOn of God could, when he became man, 'increase in wisdom and in stature, and in favor with God and man," and would even have to inquire for himself about what one in the human condition can learn only from experience. This corresponded to the reality of his voluntary emptying of himself, taking “the form of a slave.”

Paragraph 473 - But at the same time, this truly human knowledge of God’s Son expressed the divine life of his person. "The human nature of God’s Son, NOT BY ITSELF BUT BY ITS UNION WITH THE WORD, knew and showed forth in itself everything that pertains to God. Such is first of all the case with the intimate and immediate knowledge that the Son of God made man has of his Father. The Son in his human knowledge also showed the divine penetration he had into the secret thoughts of human hearts.

Paragraph 474 - By its union to the divine wisdom in the person of the Word incarnate, Christ enjoyed in his human knowledge the fullness of understanding of the eternal plans he had come to reveal. What he admitted to not knowing in this area, he elsewhere declared himself not sent to reveal. [See Mark 13:32, Acts. 1:7].

If you look in the CCC, these paragraphs also list scripture references and other references to other documents. I hope that this helps. I hope that this citations will help.

Little One0307
 
To all:

I am looking for a “succinct” explanation of one part of Matthew 24:36.
Below is from the New American translation. Jesus is talking

“As for the exact day or hour, no knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor
the Son, but the Father only.”

The key part would like to key on is “the Son”. If taken literally someone
could infer that Jesus did not know when the end times were. Some non
Christians use that to say look-that shows that Jesus is not God.

Is the answer-that since Jesus when talking was both God and man. That
his human side did not know the answer about the end times. But his divine side
did?

Thanks for clearing this up. Also if have an answer-please sight a source.

Timothy
D-R Bible, Haydock Commentary:

Ver. 36. No man knoweth … but the Father alone. The words in St. Mark (xiii. 32.) are still harder: neither the angels, nor the Son, but the Father. The Arians objected this place, to shew that Christ being ignorant of the day of judgment, could not be truly God. By the same words, no one knoweth, but the Father alone, (as they expound them) the Holy Ghost must be excluded from being the true God. In answer to this difficulty, when it is said, but the Father alone, it is certain that the eternal Son and the Holy Ghost could never be ignorant of the day of judgment: because, as they are one and the same God, so they must have one and the same nature, the same substance, wisdom, knowledge, and all absolute perfections. 2. It is also certain that Jesus Christ knew the day of judgment, and all things to come, by a knowledge which he could not but have, because of the union by which his human nature was united to the divine person and nature. See Colossians ii. 3. And so to attribute any ignorance to Christ, was the error of those heretics called Agnoitai. 3. But though Christ, as a man, knew the day of judgment, yet this knowledge was not due to him as he was man, or because he was man, but he only knew the day of judgment, because he was God as well as man. 4. It is the common answer of the fathers, that Christ here speaks to his disciples, only as he was the ambassador of his Father; and so he is only to know what he is to make known to men. He is said not to know, says St. Augustine[5], what he will not make others know, or what he will not reveal to them. (Witham) — By this Jesus Christ wished to suppress the curiosity of his disciples. In the same manner after his resurrection, he answered the same question: 'Tis not for you to know the times and the moments, which the Father has placed in his own power. This last clause is added, that the apostles might not be discouraged and think their divine Master esteemed them unworthy of knowing these things. Some Greek manuscripts add nor even the Son, as in Mark xiii. 32. The Son is ignorant of it, not according to his divinity, nor even according to his humanity hypostatically united to his divinity, but according to his humanity, considered as separate from his divinity. (Bible de Vence)
 
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