McConnell reiterates that Senate would confirm a Supreme Court nominee if there is a vacancy this year

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I’m glad to have Mitch as my senator. He’s incredible at navigating procedure and wielding power to the benefit of his electorate.
You may be happy he is your senator, but he should follow his own rules. If he required a newly elected President to decide an appointee after one election, he should do the same for the next election.

We play fair or that thing called tyranny raises it ugly head and leads to rebellion with a new form of government. I happen to like the spirit of fairness and justice my forebears tried to impart through fighting for our right to our US Constitution.
 
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

This^^ was stated of King George. But the very same wording could be stated if we replaced He with Senator Mitch McConnell.

McConnell made the rule that it was necessary to wait, and we respectfully waited. But to up and change the rule in the next election cycle for the benefit of his supporters, crosses the line to tyranny.

Really, what McConnell did to obstruct a SC appointment under Obama called for an uprising at that time. We the people of the United Stated had the right to a functioning Supreme Court that could make fair, unbiased decisions in cases of law.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–

What do you think of my perspective?
 
ProVobis . . . .
Chief Justice Roberts has stated to the effect that there are no such things as Obama judges or Trump judges.
Do you believe that ProVobis?

I think he misspoke.

The way people are reacting to major judical appointments, both leftists and non-leftists, I don’t know if anybody believes one judicial appointment is as good as another. I certainly don’t.
 
JamesV.Cameron:
I’m glad to have Mitch as my senator. He’s incredible at navigating procedure and wielding power to the benefit of his electorate.
You may be happy he is your senator, but he should follow his own rules. If he required a newly elected President to decide an appointee after one election, he should do the same for the next election.
As I recall, the “rule” he asserted was regarding a Presidential election year for a second term president. That is clearly not the case here. So he isn’t breaking the rule.

Granted, we all know that it’s just a matter of “will this benefit my party? If yes, do it. If no, don’t.” But he’s technically staying within the rule he asserted.

The root problem here, quite frankly, is Roe v. Wade, which politicized Supreme Court appointments to an extent they never were before. And as long as that decision continues to exist, we’ll continue to be stuck with this. Justice Antonin Scalia was dead-on when he complained in his Planned Parenthood v. Casey dissent that

“Roe fanned into life an issue that has inflamed our national politics in general, and has obscured with its smoke the selection of Justices to this Court in particular, ever since. And by keeping us in the abortionumpiring business, it is the perpetuation of that disruption, rather than of any Pax Roeana, that the Court’s new majority decrees.”

… and it wasn’t until just now that I noticed the pun (“Pax Roeana”) in there.
 
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As I recall, the “rule” he asserted was regarding a Presidential election year for a second term president. That is clearly not the case here. So he isn’t breaking the rule.
I’m not finding any “rule” about not giving a Supreme Court nominee a hearing in the Senate during a presidential election year.

In addition, our Declaration of Independence states clearly that a leader commits tyranny when he “obstructs the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers”.

The 2016 senate needed to give their Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers by giving Merrick Garland and We the people our due by conducting a hearing to determine if he was qualified to be a SC justice.

Instead, We the People had to wait over a year beyond Justice Scalia’s death to have 9 members on the Supreme Court. And if I recall correctly, during that time when only 8 justices were serving, they were hesitant to decide certain cases and “slow tracked” those cases until a new 9th justice came onboard. (Seems like the justices don’t play politics as much as they are accused of doing.)



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Don’t forget, Roe was given to the US by Republican appointees.
The difference was that Obama was a lame duck, and the opposing party controlled the Senate. In this case, you have neither.
It doesn’t matter about a lame duck president. A nominee was selected by the president, the senate needed to have a hearing to determine if the nominee was qualified for the SC justice position.

We the People had the right to 9 members on the Supreme Court. Anything less, and the justices had to collectively decide which cases to delay the process on until a 9th SC justice was decided.

Kudos to the 8 SC justices who didn’t play God with our justice system and waited until certain cases could get a fair decision with 9 justices present on the bench. Boo to the politicians who played the politic resulting in delayed justice. (It costs time and money to keep cases open and waiting on a docket.)
 
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“ he was adamant Obama should have played hardball when Senate GOP members refused to hold a hearing or a vote on federal appeals court judge Merrick Garland, Obama’s pick to replace Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia after he died.

“He should have nominated Merrick Garland, and should have sworn him in, and should have dared the Republicans to say kick him out of office,” Dershowitz continued. “The constitution says advise and consent; it doesn’t say delay and postpone.”
 
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As I recall, the “rule” he asserted was regarding a Presidential election year for a second term president. That is clearly not the case here. So he isn’t breaking the rule.
I’m not finding any “rule” about not giving a Supreme Court nominee a hearing in the Senate during a presidential election year.
That was the talking point, as I recall (even with a specific mention of Obama being ineligible for re-election). Indeed, that’s noted in several of the links you posted, Obama being a lame duck. But whether it was an established “rule” beforehand or not, the point was that that was the reasoning in the talking points, and thus to put someone on the Supreme Court this year wouldn’t be a violation of it, because Trump is running for re-election.

As I said, we all know it’s just a basic power play, whatever explanation might be given. But it’s not technically inconsistent to say you’d allow in a Supreme Court nominee in a non-lame duck election year.
In addition, our Declaration of Independence states clearly that a leader commits tyranny when he “obstructs the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers”.
Setting aside the fact the Declaration of Independence has no legal force in the United States, and the fact that was just one complaint (the point of the Declaration of Independence was to give a big list of complaints to make their case), this still isn’t applicable. This refers to King George refusing his “royal assent” (the equivalent of a president signing a bill into law, though though I believe there was no veto opportunity) to laws that would allow the colonists to set up their own judicial system. One has to strain mightily to find a connection between the two outside of them involving judges.
The 2016 senate needed to give their Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers by giving Merrick Garland and We the people our due by conducting a hearing to determine if he was qualified to be a SC justice.
The Senate would not, and count not, give their “Assent to Laws.” Royal assent doesn’t exist in the United States. Even if we want to consider it broadly as the passing of laws, there isn’t any law to be passed here.

Constitutionally, there is no requirement for the Senate to hold a hearing, or even a vote. In fact, actual hearings for Supreme Court justices are a relatively recent phenomenon. The Senate has the full ability to refuse to appoint any judicial nominee for as long as they want–this may not be a good idea, and it may be a violation of norms, but it’s not a violation of law, nor any refusal to assent to the passing of laws.

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Instead, We the People had to wait over a year beyond Justice Scalia’s death to have 9 members on the Supreme Court. And if I recall correctly, during that time when only 8 justices were serving, they were hesitant to decide certain cases and “slow tracked” those cases until a new 9th justice came onboard. (Seems like the justices don’t play politics as much as they are accused of doing.)
The Supreme Court doesn’t need nine members to function. Indeed, it started with six, later raised to seven, and then only raised to nine in 1847. (it was later raised to 10 before being brought back down to 9)
The article’s title makes a claim… that it doesn’t work out. The Senate’s Court blockade has never happened before? It totally happened! Yes, it was a long time ago, but it did happen, when Millard Fillmore nominated Edward Bradford in an election year, and the Senate simply refused to take any action whatsoever on his nominee or the other people he attempted to nominate subsequently for the position. The election happened, Franklin Pierce won, and the Senate approved his choice.
Don’t forget, Roe was given to the US by Republican appointees.
Who cares? That was back in 1973. Both the Democratic and Republican parties have changed a lot since then. Most specifically, back then each of the two parties was more inwardly split on the issue of abortion; that is hardly the case now.

Indeed, gecause of the way political parties can shift over time, I don’t think anything more than 25 years ago can be viewed as being representative of their current standing (even 25 years is pushing it). Heck, to my knowledge, none of the people who voted to confirm the justices who ruled for abortion in Roe v. Wade are even alive anymore.

If you want to pull this, then I say that the Democrats all love slavery. Because, after all, they were the pro-Slavery party back in the 19th century!
 
Why doesn’t it?
As I mentioned before:

A nominee was selected by the president, the senate needed to have a hearing to determine if the nominee was qualified for the SC justice position.

We the People had the right to 9 members on the Supreme Court.

Thinking about it, the Supreme Court justices had the right to a full bench so they could do their jobs as well.
 
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Who cares? That was back in 1973.
It was affirmed by a Full Republican Court in 1992.
Roe v. Wade was, in truth, not really “affirmed.” Its “central holding” was affirmed but it changed some of the underlying tests which resulted in abortion regulations being allowed that would have been flat-out denied under Roe v. Wade. That’s why Blackmun dissented, arguing they should adhere to the Roe standard and strike down all of the laws in question (the plurality under the new standard struck down some and upheld others).

Setting that aside, we run into the problem that that’s a full 28 years ago (technically, there was one Democrat, but Byron White was appointed before Roe v. Wade and was one of the original dissenters, along with Rehnquist). And the date most of those appointments occurred in was before that. But let’s look at those choices. Blackmun was appointed before Roe v. Wade was delivered. Stephens was appointed shortly after Roe v. Wade was delivered, before the Republican Party had really positioned itself as being the anti-abortion party (he wasn’t even asked about abortion at his hearing, I think). Kennedy was a compromise candidate after Robert Bork, who would have been an almost certain vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, was rejected by the Democratic-controlled Senate, so Kennedy got nominated instead. Had the Republicans controlled the Senate, Bork would have probably gotten in and possibly provided the 5th necessary vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.

So that leaves us with Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist, O’Connor, and Souter. Rehnquist may have been a vote against Roe, but in fairness to not counting Blackmun, I can’t really count him either. That leaves us with 50% of the Republican nominees wanting to overturn Roe v. Wade, and 50% of them not overturning it, but at least restricting it to some degree. That’s a significantly better track record than we’ve gotten since from Democrat appointees.
Gorsuch mentioned that it was affirmed at his hearings.
Has a candidate ever stated in their hearing that they would overturn an existing precedent? (discredited cases like Buck v. Bell don’t count)
 
the Republican Party had really positioned itself as being the anti-abortion party
Thanks to Reagan’s ability to take the Evangelical vote away from Carter, in spite of Reagan’s having signed a very pro-abortion bill when he was governor in California. Go figure.
 
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Gorsuch mentioned that it was affirmed at his hearings.
And he was correct. But that doesn’t mean anything about how he would rule on a case.

In fact, nothing any of the SCJs think on any topic should determine how they will vote. They are supposed to rule on the merits of the case presented. To overturn Roe v Wade would require the right arguments made in the right case.

The reason people don’t like activist judges is that they rule according to their own ideas and not according to the cases and arguments presented.
 
The Senate has the full ability to refuse to appoint any judicial nominee for as long as they want–this may not be a good idea, and it may be a violation of norms, but it’s not a violation of law, nor any refusal to assent to the passing of laws.
Yes, I agree that the senate can refuse to appoint a nominee. In fact, the senate can reject every nominee until they determine a nominee is qualified through the selection process.

However, approving or rejecting an appointment and flat out refusing to move forward with the selection process is two different matters. I disagree that it is acceptable for the senate to refuse a hearing for a Supreme Court nominee. It is an obstruction of justice. If Congress says there are 9 SC justices on the bench, and only 8 positions are filled, then it is the senate’s constitutional responsibility to the people to determines whether a SC justice nominee is qualified for the job.

In addition, it is the president’s responsibility to provide a SC justice nominee to Congress when a SC position is vacated. Anything less is an obstruction of justice on the president’s part. The US is an established nation and we need all three branches of the government to keep each other in check so that we remain “of the people, by the people, and for the people”.

As far as assent to law, I’m not speaking of royal assent, but the parallelism of a governing body like the senate fulfilling its leadership role. Sorry for the bad (improper) rhetoric…hopefully I get an “A” for effort since I’ve not had the opportunity (yet) to catch a logic and rhetoric class.

At the end of the day, time is money. The American people expect their elected officials to perform tasks in a timely manner. Holding up the SC due to politics has no place in today’s society, because the current politic is taking this nation down the path towards a class war.
 
Thanks to Reagan’s ability to take the Evangelical vote away from Carter, in spite of Reagan’s having signed a very pro-abortion bill when he was governor in California. Go figure.
Reagan did sign the bill, to be able to exclude some more radical provisions (which he would not have been able to do had he vetoed and the legislature overridden the veto), and not realizing that the mental health exception would be so widely misused.

Shorter article

Article Reagan wrote in 1983, 10th anniversary of RvW
 
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