McDonald's signs onto Gay Agenda

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This was a question at the EWTN from the EWTN website’s Faith Section: “Ask The Experts”
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Double Effect
Question from on 10-15-2002:
Is the principle of double effect a formally taught trine of the Church or a mere philosophical guideline?
Thank you,
Ryan King
Answer by Richard Geraghty on 10-26-2002:
Dear Ryan,
The teaching of double effect is part and parcel of the moral theology of the Church.
Dr. Geraghty
Dr. Geraghty is a professor of philosophy.
This sounds like the* Moral Principle of the Double-Effect *comes into play here.

I don’t know if I can keep up with this Thread.

Basically, the idea of the Double-Effect, which can be applied to shopping, is that a Catholic should avoid patronizing businesses that promote (e.g., selling immoral products, and yes, businesses that promote immorality by using the good will and clout of their recognizable business name to support immoral and sinful acts) immorality.

My understanding is that, as a Catholic, avoiding businesses that sell or support immorality is something that **you should do **as a Catholic.

However, I am of the opinion that if the product could cause death, such as the abortion Plan B Pill, then one cannot patronize that store unless there is an emergency that involves life or death, or no other stores existed within a reasonable distance from one’s home.

I think, in my opinion, that McDonald’s is applying the full weight of its corporate good will and status as a company that most Americans admire by sponsoring and supporting this McDonald’s corporate officer’s decision to sit on this Gay and Lesbian board to promote the acceptance of Gay and Lesbian lifestyles in the U.S., which may include gay marriage, depending on what these Gay and Lesbian businesses are and also any statements this McDonald’s corporate officer may make while serving this board.

Based on the story I read and the quotations, I would, in my opinion, that you can reasonably conclude that McDonald’s, which has an almost omnipresent presence in the United States, and probably worldwide, seeks to promote acceptance of Gay and Lesbian sexuality in the United States.

I’m not saying it is a mortal sin to buy a greasy hamurger and Freedom fries from a McDonald’s, but based on everything I’ve read, a Catholic should, if possible, not spend their money at businesses that support immorality (and, of course, there are degrees of that, in my opinion, Target and Wal-Mart are the worst because they sell the abortion pill at their pharmacies).

You know, you can make a difference; though it may seem small, it will be multiplied with others following suit, by not purchasing you food and taking your family to a fast food restaurant that has one of its high ranking corporate officers sitting on a Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce board.

I’ve avoided, in the past Hardy’s (for its immoral commercials) and also Burger King (for its advertisement on MTV) for years.

Now, I wasn’t seeking to bankrupt these companies, but I sure wasn’t going to spend my money there, and I could personally care less if anyone else was boycotting them too (although I think that would be a good thing).

And it is easy to do so too, because most cities zone these fast food restaurants to a certain section of a street, and they are all located next to or across the street from each other, so it is easy, most of the time, to cross the street and say “I’M GOING TO WENDY’S.🙂

Plus, in my opinion, Wendy’s builds a better burger.

Now, if you ask me any questions, **you must read **this Catholic Answer’s thread where I discussed this Double-Effect moral principle in the context of the abortion pill.

I had all sorts of questions from others about income taxes, nuclear weapons, and how much do I have to research the places where I buy things.

And I’m not going to accept the argument “well, there’s just ain’t no place I can shop anymore.”

As I said, at least in this Hamburger context, in my opinion, there is at least one other place, and in my opinion it is Wendy’s.

I’m sure there are many other places where you can buy a hamburger, though perhaps not in a fast food setting:

(I used a lot of smilies in this Thread; I wasn’t trying to be facetious; CA in the Forum Guidelines, I think, said we should use those to show people we don’t mean to be offensive while responding to others, though, I think it may be possible that someone could use them in an annoying manner).

Discussion of “Double-Effect and Going To The Store”:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=207378

I still stand by my opinion in this Thread regarding the sinfulness of shopping Target and Wal-Mart and other places that sell the abortion pill.

Avoiding stores that promote immorality is something as a Catholic you should do; I think it will make you a better person.

I don’t think it is a mortal sin, but I never really got a satisfactory answer (unfortunately, the Thread was closed before at least I felt I got a decent answer to the question).

But I don’t know if it is a venial sin either?

Catholic Answers Apologist Jimmy Akin wrote this article in the November, 2005 “This Rock” CA’s magazine about Moral Investing.

Although the article focuses on investing money, he does talk about shopping and how you should spend your money.

I found this article, personally, very helpful; here’s the link:

catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0511bt.asp
 
Dwyer…

read your post…

I will continue take my granddaughter to McDonalds or any other restaurant, in my Ford Focus, or my son’s Ford Explorer, or my DH Ford 150.

99% of all pharmacies and grocery stores sell abc. Finding the one percent…have at it.

Where does it end? I guess when I go to buy a house, I want to make sure that the real estate agents in that firm are not on abc, are not, nor socialize with a homosexual before I use their business. I really don’t mind asking the “personal” questions about strangers social and/or private lives…because it wouldn’t bother me a bit for anyone…including the government to snoop into mine. Again, the religious version of the Patriot Act.

Oh by the way, Target sells music CD’s which do not edit, the language or sexual innudendo content of the songs. Target’s pharmacy sells abc. Wal-Mart does not sell music CD’s with foul language or sexual innuendo content. Target sells 17 Magazine and Teen Cosmo as well as the tabloid fodder. Thought I would let you know. Alot of Target stores (here in NC) have a “Starbucks” right inside the store.

Both stores sell the latest Grand Theft Auto video game as well as many other violent video games rated M. They also sell R rated movies by the bucketload, some as low as $5.00. Let’s peruse Targets book selections…no, I’ll leave it there…you can see for yourself.

Many Christian groups, especially in the south, have stores all over selling books, movies, games, music of a Christian genre. Alas, they are all Protestant. There are a few Catholic items in the store…I have been there…and they said they would carry more if patrons would inform them. Great idea and I wouldn’t be surprised if the stores expanded to included modest apparel someday soon. They do a big business…not sure if it would go over as well in the north…but in the south, Christian bookstores are doing quite well. Hmmmm…sounds like an alternative and sends a message…quietly…the only sound you hear is the “ding” on the cash register. Oh, did I mention the Christian auto shops, restaurants (do not serve alchohol), non smoking, coffee shops…etc.

Something for Catholics in business to think about.
 
Julianna,

I answer many of the questions (for instance, where does it end?) you ask towards the end of that Thread on the Double Effect on Target and Wal-Mart.

Also, please read Jimmy Akin’s This Rock, November, 2005article.
I will continue take my granddaughter to McDonalds or any other restaurant, in my Ford Focus, or my son’s Ford Explorer, or my DH Ford 150.
That’s your free will choice to do so.

However, don’t you think you would feel better, spiritually speaking and perhaps emotionally also, knowing that the money that you personally spend is not helping to fund the decline of Western Civilization rapidly falling into Friedrich Nietzsche’s nightmare and Jeremy Bentham’s Utilitarian society.

In other words, the Culture of Death.

I know I would.
Where does it end? I guess when I go to buy a house, I want to make sure that the real estate agents in that firm are not on abc, are not, nor socialize with a homosexual before I use their business. I really don’t mind asking the “personal” questions about strangers social and/or private lives…because it wouldn’t bother me a bit for anyone…including the government to snoop into mine. Again, the religious version of the Patriot Act.
This is a gross exaggeration of my point I am trying to convey.🙂

In this instance, I’ve given you a clear, better alternative to McDonald’s when shopping for hamburger fast food: Wendy’s.

These are the times that try men’s and women’s souls.

Now is the time for all good men and women to exercise a little will power and support the business that does not support and endorse the decline of Western Civilization.

I bet you will feel a lot better when you make that switch.

I would suggest starting small.

In a lot of ways this proposal is a lot similar to recycling trash for a better environment.

Start small, and then do your reasonable best from there on.🙂

The **main principle to be guided by is avoid evil and choose the good, or, in the alternative of two evils, choose the business that is the lesser **of the two evils based on your reason and common sense.

Obviously, if one store is selling suicide pills, for example, and an independent pharmacy is not, go to the independent pharmacist.
 
There is no gay agenda, and nothing to fear. Gays honestly are not going to hurt anyone.

Like it or not, LGBTQ people are still people… and no matter how much we may disagree with them or their lifestyles, they’re still our brothers and sisters in Christ. So let’s try for a little more kindness, eh?
 
The more they scream the word ‘hate,’ I think the closer we’re getting to the mark. Using the term ‘Hate speech’ is a loud, brutal and transparent tactic to shield people from the truth.
 
There appears to be some disagreement among posters here as to whether or not it is right to boycott companies that sign on to NGLCC. Many who think boycotts are not okay quote section 2358 of the catechism, where it says that we must show utmost compassion to those with homosexual tendencies and also oppose all unjust discrimination. However, this isn’t grasping the big picture. Yes, we are supposed to oppose discrimination against homosexuals, be it employment, salaries, etc. But, we cannot support legalized homosexual marriage since it is intrinsically disordered and places a difficult road block in the way of chastity. Not only that, but it always follows suit with legalizing gay adoption, opening the door to child molestation.

And yes, the NGLCC does support gay marriage:
nglcc.org/BIZ/community/miniprofiles

Both JPII and Benedict XVI have been unequivocal in their opposition to homosexual marriage. Catechism section 2357 says a homosexual lifestyle cannot be approved. As a Catholic, I feel that I cannot morally purchase food from McDonalds since some of that money would go to an organization that fights for gay marriage.

Love the sinner, hate the sin.
In my opinion anyone who eats at McDonalds is sinning against their body, a temple of the Holy Spirit.
Ever notice that they never told us what animal their mcrib came from?
And I believe that there’s a lot of filler in their hamburgers.
No one, Gay or straight, should eat at McDonalds.
 
There is no gay agenda, and nothing to fear. Gays honestly are not going to hurt anyone.

Like it or not, LGBTQ people are still people… and no matter how much we may disagree with them or their lifestyles, they’re still our brothers and sisters in Christ. So let’s try for a little more kindness, eh?
I have come to the conclusion that there are vast numbers of people in this country that have a need to find an “other” to fear, to hate and/or to feel superior to. It might be those of another race, those whose first language is not english, those of another religion, those who are or who are assumed to be homosexual, those from another political party…bottom line-anyone somehow different from their concept of what is “Right”. I find those folks everywhere, at the office, at the Y, and even in Church.

It’s something I’m really on guard against in myself, and I really have to try hard not to slip into, because it is really easy.
 
There is no gay agenda, and nothing to fear. Gays honestly are not going to hurt anyone.

Like it or not, LGBTQ people are still people… and no matter how much we may disagree with them or their lifestyles, they’re still our brothers and sisters in Christ. So let’s try for a little more kindness, eh?
Again, the issue is the redefinition of marriage. It is sad that you cannot see the issue for what it is and instead see only “unkindness”.

It is very easy for us to voice our opinion to McDonald’s, it seems to me that if we care about marriage, this would be the obvious course of action.

I think those who don’t care about this issue don’t care about marriage. Hopefully that is just ignorance, and not a sin.

There is nothing unkind about standing up for marriage. If you don’t do it, I think you’re remiss in your duty.
 
There is no gay agenda, and nothing to fear. Gays honestly are not going to hurt anyone.

Like it or not, LGBTQ people are still people… and no matter how much we may disagree with them or their lifestyles, they’re still our brothers and sisters in Christ. So let’s try for a little more kindness, eh?
Of course there is. The homosexual agenda is to have homosexual behavior be given in protected status as race, creed, gender, and country of national origin
 
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