Meat on St. Patrick's Day (Friday?)

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Hoosier_Daddy said:
What is the spiritual benifit of eating meat on st Patrick’s day this year?
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What is the spiritual benefit of having a feast day?

Why don’t you ask the Bishops?

St. Patrick is the patron saint of my diocese, hence the dispensation in my diocese.
 
I just can’t imagine not abstaining my from meat for a “secular” feast day during lent. My corned beef will be enjoyed on " gasp" Saturday.

Btw. I have a recipie for an amazing potato soup that would fit quite nicely with a Lenten theme and st Patrick’s day.

If anyone wants it they can PM me.
Just, no bacon bits!
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
I just can’t imagine not abstaining my from meat for a “secular” feast day during lent. My corned beef will be enjoyed on " gasp" Saturday.

Btw. I have a recipie for an amazing potato soup that would fit quite nicely with a Lenten theme and st Patrick’s day.

If anyone wants it they can PM me.
Just, no bacon bits!
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Fortunately, nobody is forced to eat meat on Friday, just given the option to. In the grand scheme of things, it matters little whether the corned beef is on Friday or Saturday.
 
My diocesan bishop is offering the dispensation for those who wish to partake in meat for St Patrick’s Day but since I don’t eat corned beef anyway, so I will continue my normal Friday meatless Lenten day.
 
drforjc said:
My guess is that he would agree that the Bishop has the final say.
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The bishop in my diocese has given permission to eat meat on Friday (St. Patrick’s Day), but we should go meatless on Thursday. I am happy with that because I always have the family for St. Pat’s Day dinner and what could it be but corned beef and cabbage and potatoes. Might add a creme de menthe pie.
 
I will still be abstaining from meat on Friday (even if Bishop Conley gives a dispensation which I doubt he would). Saint Patrick’s day is no longer about the Saint, but an excuse to get drunk…its become secularized. Plus, I can’t stand corned beef and cabbage and its not even AUTHENTIC Irish food.

I’ll stick to Mac and Cheese or Fish Sticks and French fies baked in my oven. Or if the day is cold. I’ll eat Tomato soup.
 
jediliz said:
I will still be abstaining from meat on Friday (even if Bishop Conley gives a dispensation which I doubt he would). Saint Patrick’s day is no longer about the Saint, but an excuse to get drunk…its become secularized. Plus, I can’t stand corned beef and cabbage and its not even AUTHENTIC Irish food.

I’ll stick to Mac and Cheese or Fish Sticks and French fies baked in my oven. Or if the day is cold. I’ll eat Tomato soup.
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Sorry, but your post makes two inappropriate generalizations: first, that those of us who celebrate the day only use it as an excuse to get drunk; second, that in addition to getting drunk, all we want to eat is corned beef and cabbage. You are certainly free to observe - or not observe - the day as you see fit, but you don’t get to criticize those of us who celebrate our heritage in conformity with our own bishop’s dispensation.
 
Per the Arlington DIocese:

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St. Patrick’s Day Dispensation
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As a general rule, the obligation of abstinence from meat on Fridays of Lent is an important element of the Church’s observance of the penitential nature of this holy season.
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This year, however, Friday of the second week of Lent corresponds with Saint Patrick’s Day (March 17), which has traditionally been an occasion for joy-filled celebrations in this diocese. Having taken into consideration both past practice and present circumstances, and having judged that it would serve the spiritual good of the faithful, Bishop Burbidge has granted to the faithful of the Diocese of Arlington, as well as to any visitors or travelers who may be physically present within the territory of this diocese, a dispensation from the obligation of abstinence from meat on March 17, 2017. Those taking advantage of the dispensation, however, are exhorted to undertake a work of charity, an exercise of piety, or an act of comparable penance on some other occasion during the Second Week of Lent.
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jediliz said:
Saint Patrick’s day is no longer about the Saint, but an excuse to get drunk…its become secularized. Plus, I can’t stand corned beef and cabbage and its not even AUTHENTIC Irish food.
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Corned beef seems to be traditional Irish-American food, which is a big part of my heritage.

As for St. Patrick’s Day being secularized, so has Christmas been, but that doesn’t mean we can’t celebrate it at all, or teach our kids about it’s true meaning.

Nevertheless, unless I see that my bishop has offered a dispensation, I will save the corned beef for Saturday.
 
Our archbishop has dispensed us from that obligation PROVIDED we offer another form of penance on that day. My wife and I will continue the fast though.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
Sorry, but your post makes two inappropriate generalizations: first, that those of us who celebrate the day only use it as an excuse to get drunk; second, that in addition to getting drunk, all we want to eat is corned beef and cabbage. You are certainly free to observe - or not observe - the day as you see fit, but you don’t get to criticize those of us who celebrate our heritage in conformity with our own bishop’s dispensation.
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There are some who seem to imply that if you take advantage of a dispensation that somehow you are not as pure as those who don’t. I mean what is the sense of having a dispensation if people don’t take advantage of it?
 
We are dispensed from the Friday abstinence on March 17, but must abstain on another day that week. I think that is fair.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
There are some who seem to imply that if you take advantage of a dispensation that somehow you are not as pure as those who don’t. I mean what is the sense of having a dispensation if people don’t take advantage of it?
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It’s like the mommy wars.
 
pnewton said:
I was thinking the same thing. I mean, corn beef and cabbage? It is not like indulging in lobster (legal on Lenten Fridays,) or blackened sea bass Alexander (legal on Lenten Fridays.) This illustrates the kind of rigidity that the Pope has been speaking against. As Jesus would say, we ought to do one without neglecting the other. Stay within the Church’s rules, but more importantly, within the spirit of the rules that that the Church gives. So, if the diocese permits a celebration for this day, then treat it as a Sunday in Lent, in which you can celebrate, but then add something back in.

Everyone must do what they think best, but if no one has any idea, read the book of James this week, or Romans, or one of the Gospels, etc., as an act of penance in substitute for Friday. And then, still remember the need for moderation.
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That’s the keys. How about this for example? Eat the meat but eschew all alcohol this Friday? That allows one to engage in their traditional communal meal, while giving up something that’s even more difficult for some to give up, especially on that day?

When planning my Lenten give-up (fairly stringent dietary restrictions), there was one date that I couldn’t skip (a big celebratory BBQ), nor could I abstain if I went. My solution was to “pre-pay” my coming indulgence by going to a half-dozen weekday Masses plus added exercise.
 
I say this lovingly: our culture has turned into a bunch of sissies.
 
SimpleRosarian said:
I say this lovingly: our culture has turned into a bunch of sissies.
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I am not sure why you would say that. Nobody is getting a freeby here. If people choose to eat meat, they are asked to do some other penance. In my diocese, we are asked to abstain from meat on either Thursday or Saturday. Are you really saying someone is a sissy if they abstain on Thursday rather than Friday?
 
My bishop has also granted a dispensation, and I’m thrilled. As Saint Teresa of Avila said “when there’s fasting, let there be fasting; but when there’s feasting, let there be feasting.”

As for those who say that this Saint Patrick’s Day is only a secular feast, I disagree. There will be Mass at Saint Patrick’s, plus corned beef and cabbage. Plus, if one prays the Liturgy of the Hours, there are writings of Saint Patrick that we read. There will be still be Stations of the Cross, plus we’re also having a parish movie night, showing The Passion of the Christ. I don’t doubt that many of us will still be observing our Lenten disciplines, as well.

I will be enjoying all of it, as will my fellow parishioners. 🙂

God bless and may everyone enjoy Saint Patrick’s Day. If you don’t know much about him, now is a good time to look him up.
 
corsair said:
Our archbishop has dispensed us from that obligation PROVIDED we offer another form of penance on that day. My wife and I will continue the fast though.
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This is in no way binding upon anyone, but I personally feel that if you are going to forgo meat abstinence in order to celebrate the feast of St. Patrick, you should at least a) go to Mass or b) pray the liturgy of the Hours. How can you say you have “celebrated” the feast if you don’t participate in the liturgy for the day in some manner?
 
I believe St. Joseph’s day was on a Friday last year. One doesn’t even need a dispensation to have meat then. It’s a Solemnity, so meat is permitted.

I need to get some St. Joseph pastries! Zeppole as they are called.

I grew up in the NY archdiocese btw. St Patrick’s day was usually a day off from school. My mom would make corn beef and cabbage, and Irish soda bread, and Irish coffee, and green jello with canned fruit in it.

We’re a Sicilian immigrant family.🤷 not sure why the Irish celebration. 😃
 
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