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OrdinaryMelkite
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The fact that nobody on the panel raised an eyebrow over her remark says a LOT. Not even Joe Scarborough. I guess he has joined the dark side.
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Michael68
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Joe joined the dark side a long time ago.The fact that nobody on the panel raised an eyebrow over her remark says a LOT. Not even Joe Scarborough. I guess he has joined the dark side.
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OrdinaryMelkite
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MSNBC has been positioned for some time now as Fox News for the Left.
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OrdinaryMelkite
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Some years ago, during the mid 2000’s, I had a co-worker who was strongly right-wing (though non-Catholic). The type that referred to CNN as the “Clinton news Network,” and all that. One day I was discussing politics with him and the subject of MSNBC came up. I said, “At least they have Joe Scarborough over there for some sort of balance.”
He laughed and said, “Joe Scarborough? He’s not a Republican or Conservative anymore. He’s a RINO (Republican In Name Only) totally now.”
I didn’t quite agree with him then-----but lately I’ve begun to see what he meant. :yup::yup:
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Michael68
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I can admit Fox is right wing. I believe they are more fair to the opposition pundits. Just my opinion, although I have not watched any televised media since the inauguration.
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edwest2
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The media is very biased, most of it. It is a mouthpiece for left wing propaganda. In an editorial for a major local newspaper, an editor was trying to make a point about why sales were down, but he couldn’t figure it out. “Maybe,” he mused. “We should go out there and…” talk to real people. Maybe. As if years of professional journalism never existed. How in 2017, there must be some abstract issue with people that was never confronted before.
The major media outlets today are primarily about issue advocacy. The same issues are advocated using slightly different words from various outlets across the country. You could erase the names of all these media organizations and search by subject, and the messages would be the same.
I know someone who worked for many years at a daily, small town newspaper. He showed me a machine which, at the time, printed out column width news from various sources. I read it as it slowly came in. Real news. Now newspapers like this get bought out by big media firms.
I also get trade news from various “you have to be a media professional to get this” sources. There is evidence of two things: (A) Liberal/Left bias, and some people who are so detached from the everyday person that they can’t understand them.
“… Rich and poor lived side by side, but they lived in very different worlds.”
And so it is.
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The major media outlets today are primarily about issue advocacy. The same issues are advocated using slightly different words from various outlets across the country. You could erase the names of all these media organizations and search by subject, and the messages would be the same.
I know someone who worked for many years at a daily, small town newspaper. He showed me a machine which, at the time, printed out column width news from various sources. I read it as it slowly came in. Real news. Now newspapers like this get bought out by big media firms.
I also get trade news from various “you have to be a media professional to get this” sources. There is evidence of two things: (A) Liberal/Left bias, and some people who are so detached from the everyday person that they can’t understand them.
“… Rich and poor lived side by side, but they lived in very different worlds.”
And so it is.
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OrdinaryMelkite
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Oh, absolutely Fox News is right-wing. It was created specifically as being biased to the right. 99% of all media is biased one way or another, IMO.
The only network which could objectively be said to be non-biased is C-Span, where they do not have anchors editorializing like other networks and they just show the images, so to speak. Even the call-in segments in the morning are geared as much as possible to be fair. Some may disagree with me on that, but that is ok.
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dmelosi
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C-Span is not something that I have watched, but will, thanks.Oh, absolutely Fox News is right-wing. It was created specifically as being biased to the right. 99% of all media is biased one way or another, IMO.
The only network which could objectively be said to be non-biased is C-Span, where they do not have anchors editorializing like other networks and they just show the images, so to speak. Even the call-in segments in the morning are geared as much as possible to be fair. Some may disagree with me on that, but that is ok.
Here is another analysis of the bias
fortune.com/2015/11/02/liberal-media/
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Michael68
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I agree. I have watched the call in show from time to time and it appeared non biasedOh, absolutely Fox News is right-wing. It was created specifically as being biased to the right. 99% of all media is biased one way or another, IMO.
The only network which could objectively be said to be non-biased is C-Span, where they do not have anchors editorializing like other networks and they just show the images, so to speak. Even the call-in segments in the morning are geared as much as possible to be fair. Some may disagree with me on that, but that is ok.
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Latias
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Where is this left-wing propaganda? I do not see the mainstream media supporting Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn.
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adamhovey1988
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I see it on both sides of the political divide and this bias is especially true from both sides to people who don’t fit the mold of what they’re looking for such as myself
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dmelosi
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Did you see the overwhelming support/apologetics for clinton over trump?
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Jared2914
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I think it’s easy for people to accept media bias when it’s in their favor. Errors or mistakes in reporting are just swept under the rug. I think it’s an issue of “ends justifies the means”. The left might see bad articles or reporting, but they don’t care much since it still drives the message they support. It reminds me of that 1984 book. The left-leaning control of the media almost gives them the ability to write history however they want, whether it is true or not.
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dmelosi
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There are on both sides I agree, it is just so lopsided on the amount of bias by the left.
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Latias
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Answer my question about Corbyn and Sanders. I haven’t heard Hillary Clinton mentioned much anymore. Or maybe I do not like her, so I avoid news about her.
It says something about you to consider Hillary Clinton to be “very left-wing”. She supported the coup in Honduras, the bombing of Libya, and establishing a no-fly zone in Syria.
No one has much evidence to suggest that the media is left-wing. People just want to complain about supposed left-wing bias. Most conservatives complain because a segment of the mainstream media does not push the threat of Muslims or speak against abortion and gay marriage as much as conservatives want them to. I guess that is what you mean by “left-wing” bias and “political correctness”.
Here is an example (primarily for my reference, so I do not have to locate it and something on this thread reminded me of it) of 2:00 here. Conservatives are offended by 9/11 jokes, and it triggers something in them, while they like to kvetch how liberals are easily offended. And some conservatives like to make jokes about Pinochet’s helicopters. I can’t say that 9/11 was karma for, uh, 9/11/73, which both happened on a Tuesday.
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dmelosi
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I am not sure what you are asking about corbyn and sanders. Are you trying to make the case that the media is not left wing because they supported clinton over sanders and corbyn? What are you asking?
There has been tons of evidence in this thread that you appear to be ignoring.
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Latias
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It is not that left-wing. If they were really left-wing, they would support Sanders over Clinton.
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Latias
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You mean arguing against? I did not notice this post. I do not weigh social issues such as abortion highly. But that is Obama taking a political stance; it does not show the bias of the media.
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dmelosi
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That does not make sense.
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Latias
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Face it. the media is not radically left-wing.
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