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Anyone promoting authenticity of the apparitions, or defaming, dissenting against, disobeying, or even simply having contempt of heart, or with words, against the local bishop, is already committing a sin. I was among those blaming the bishop for causing the chaos, when in fact, it was he who was working well within Church boundaries. The very first interview Bishop Zanic had with the “seers” they lied under oath, stating they were tending goats, when they were actually listening to rock & roll tapes and smoking. They were caught in their lie and this is in official interviews. This is not a light matter with regards to authenticity for one who claims to be seeing the Blessed Mother, especially while they “swear to God” before their Bishop that they will answer his questions truthfully. That was a big “Hello” for me.I think that people can easily get caught up in Apparitions and forget about God and His Holy Church. What I don’t understand is why Unity Publishing is writing articles with incorrect information about people associated with Medjugorje. I know some of these people, and trust me when I say they did NOT engage in such activities.It seems that those opposed to Medjugorje have lost all focus and so it makes them seem less credible.
Why can’t people who aren’t interested just leave it alone and those who are just live out the messages?!
As Bishop Peric entitled the one document, “The Truth Both Frees us and Binds us”. This is so true. But seeking truth is the hard part. Once you get there, it is binding. Many do not want to see truth because they are too close to the individuals involved or simply want to believe that the apparitions are real, at all costs, rejecting anything that comes their way as contradictory. This includes Vatican documents stating that we cannot trek to Medjugorje if we do so with a belief that they are authenticated. It is the same reason we cannot discuss them as authentic here on this site.
We cannot look only at the good fruits, and ignore the bad. We cannot look only at the positive things, without looking at the theological contradictions that have arisen and well documented at Unity and elsewhere. We simply cannot ignore the flagrant disobedience and lies that have occured and are documented when the “seers” contradict themselves in tapings and transcripts from one interview to the next. And, we cannot ignore that there are now well over 30,000 messages and counting. No other authenticated apparition such as Fatima or Lourdes has had anything more than a handful of messages over a short, finite amount of time.
Stick with me a moment here and lets just dissect it a little more, ok? What specific thing have you read that you don’t believe is true? All links I provided include official documents from the Local Ordinary. I’d like to look further into your concern.
Keep in mind there are a good many Franciscans living and working in Hercegovina who are loyal to the Church and are not dissenting. Their own order booted them. Dissenters don’t only come from the left, they can come from the right and even from the center.
Like I said, it is painful to reconcile with, I know. I lived with these people long term and I wonder if some of my closest friends (sisters) may have parted with the original order, which I believe is still in communion with the Church. I’m still investigating. Several new orders were initiated without the permission of the local bishop in Medjugorje and the surrounding area. This is another bad seed. It is a disobedient action on the part of some religious and priests. He discusses this in his documents as well and he is correct to raise it as a concern. Of course, this has no bearing on the “seers” themselves, it still shows that something there is sparking dissention, enough to draw the attention of the Vatican.
Lets talk specific points and I’m sorry if this offends you. Be assured, I was in denial for a month after learning a few things, then heartbroken as I had to reconcile with facts coming from official documents. Just bring up one in your next post and lets look more closely at it. I just don’t want anyone else to make the same error I did.
