Memorial Acclamation A? - Where in the world did it come from and where it is going?

[Phemie]

A typo, I’m sure, but for the sake of non-Catholics who might be confused reading this, it’s actually ‘DESTROYED our death’ not ‘restored’ it.

Wow, did I ever get that one wrong! I even remember thinking as I typed it “that doesn’t sound right??” but the eye went down one line and that’s what I saw. Time to get my glasses changed.

 

[pianomany2k]

I understand why it isn’t used. I think (no one seems to have an answer to this) the reason for the current text of 1973 is because the Latin text is - overall - longer than most of what our current responses are.

The Gloria is probably the best example of this. If you compare the two texts, one can clearly see that some parts were condensed to “get the point across”

1973 text: We worship you, We give you thanks, We praise you for your glory

Latin text: We praise you, we bless you, we adore you, we glorify you, we give you thanks for your great glory.

I tend to refer to it as being lazy

To get back to the actual thread title (little detour…drives my wife nuts when I do that ), as someone else said, Memorial Acclamation A seems to take B,C,D and and just proclaim it. Again, laziness in my opinion.

Overall, the more I read about it, the more I’m understanding and more accepting of the translated text.

 

[jkarp]

AHHHHH. I see so it was derived off another Acclamation.

So I am guessing that this was invented due to Post Vatican II changes? I am wondering why they felt the need to start using it.

So does any others besides the English speaking people use this Acclamation? I was trying to research this today, but could not find the answer. I was trying to see if this Acclamation was just a United States thing or if it was an entire Church thing. Thanks.

God bless.

I believe the English translation is the only one that has this form of the Acclamation (for a few more months anyways!). And yes - it was inserted by ICEL after the Second Vatican Council.

 

[Little_One0307]

I believe the English translation is the only one that has this form of the Acclamation (for a few more months anyways!). And yes - it was inserted by ICEL after the Second Vatican Council.

I have learned that the stupid question is the question that remains unasked, so here goes. What in the world is ICEL? Is it a translation or something. I am confused.

Thanks.

God bless.

 

[JM3]

International Commission on English in the Liturgy

icelweb.org/

 

[Little_One0307]

International Commission on English in the Liturgy

icelweb.org/

God bless you. Thanks.

 

[Stitchwort]

Lots of prayers refer to Christ in the third person after the consecration. From the Roman Canon alone, consider:
Father, we celebrate the memory of Christ, your Son. We, your people and your ministers, recall his passion, his resurrection from the dead, and his ascension into glory . . . .

Almighty God, we pray that your angel may take this sacrifice to your altar in heaven. Then, as we receive from this altar the sacred body and blood of your Son, let us be filled with every grace and blessing. . . .

Through Christ our Lord you give us all these gifts. You fill them with life and goodness, you bless them and make them holy.

Yes, but all these prayers are addressed, either explicitly or implicitly, directly to the Father, who is also present. The three acclamations are addressed directly to Christ, who is at this point present not only in the Trinity, but body, blood, soul and divinity, on the altar. Yet the “Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again” phrase is in the 3rd person, as though Jesus was not present on the altar before us. So, yes, it can be seen as rude. And I think it is one of the many subtle little things which has contributed to the undermining of our belief in the Real Presence.

Little One: It has been extensively used here in Canada. I can’t answer for other English-speaking countries.

And I am very glad to see that it will be gone.

 

[PacoG]

Little One: It has been extensively used here in Canada. I can’t answer for other English-speaking countries.

At my parish, we alternate between “Christ has died” and “When we eat this Bread” since those are the two alternatives in the Celtic Mass. (We use the Sanctus, Mystery of Faith and Great Amen from the Celtic Mass. Interestingly enough, we use Angus Dei from Jubliate Deo…but I digress.) I am guessing that we will probably exclusively use “When we eat this Bread” once the new translation takes effect.