Men must masturbate?

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Not if those thoughts are of your own wife.
If those thoughts are of you wife then according to the Church, you are guilty of using your wife for your own lustful intensions outside the confines of the marital act.

You view you wife as an object only to be lusted after. Definately not what God intended for her to be in your life.
 
I am a committed catholic who has to teach sex education. Many students ask me about masturbation. They say the old health teacher told them they should masturbate once a day. I know masturbation is wrong. I need some sound ammunition to tell the students this is wrong. Help!
 
I am a committed catholic who has to teach sex education. Many students ask me about masturbation. They say the old health teacher told them they should masturbate once a day. I know masturbation is wrong. I need some sound ammunition to tell the students this is wrong. Help!
Any self-indulging behavior stunts one’s growth in maturity and ability to give one’s self in service to others; which in a nutshell is what preparation for adult living is all about. It is a self-ingulging vice which prohibits growth in others-centered virtue. It is immediate gratification that thwarts growth in delayed gratification.
 
If those thoughts are of you wife then according to the Church, you are guilty of using your wife for your own lustful intensions outside the confines of the marital act.

You view you wife as an object only to be lusted after. Definately not what God intended for her to be in your life.
Correct …

“For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from unchastity; that each one of you know how to take a wife for himself in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like heathen who do not know God;” **1 Thessalonians 3: 3-5 **
 
Sexual intercourse is a form of communication. Its objective message is grounded in natural law. Masturbation takes what is supposed to be a dialogue and warps it into a monologue. It transforms the language of sexual intimacy into a lie.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
I am a committed catholic who has to teach sex education. Many students ask me about masturbation. They say the old health teacher told them they should masturbate once a day. I know masturbation is wrong. I need some sound ammunition to tell the students this is wrong. Help!
What age do you teach? If you PM me, I can put you in contact someone who might be able to give you some resources.
 
DeltaForce,
If someone masturbates because of habit as opposed to willingly wanting to sin against God, is that any less serious, would you say?
Not only would I say, but the Church would say this too.

Anolin,
I need some sound ammunition to tell the students this is wrong.
No one ever provided a neat and tidy explanation that made me say “aha!” with regards to Catholic sexual morality. The best way I can advice is to encourage and foster debate and thought regarding this. It takes some heavy thinking to “get it”.

Some things to keep in the center of these debates: Human Life is sacred. And Catholic sexual morality is as much to protect sex from being corrupted by us as it is to protect us from being corrupted by sex. And sex is sacred.

Human Life is sacred. Because of this there are all sorts of “boundaries” the Catholic Church puts around human life. Starting with murder there is a long list of do’s and don’ts that only pertain to Human Life and not to any other creature on earth. And the foundation for that long list is all because Human Life is sacred.

Well, guess what the font of Human Life is? Human sex. And lookee there, all sorts of boundaries around that too. Why? Because Human sex is sacred. Those boundaries help us to “see” how sacred Human Life is. Just as the special china is only used for very special occasions, it is that fact that the china helps us to “see” that an occasion is special. If the china were used every day, then the special occasions are diminished. So it is with the font of Human Life - when it is used for ordinary pleasure we lose sight that the fruits of that act are also sacred.
 
DeltaForce,

Not only would I say, but the Church would say this too.

Anolin,

No one ever provided a neat and tidy explanation that made me say “aha!” with regards to Catholic sexual morality. The best way I can advice is to encourage and foster debate and thought regarding this. It takes some heavy thinking to “get it”.

Some things to keep in the center of these debates: Human Life is sacred. And Catholic sexual morality is as much to protect sex from being corrupted by us as it is to protect us from being corrupted by sex. And sex is sacred.

Human Life is sacred. Because of this there are all sorts of “boundaries” the Catholic Church puts around human life. Starting with murder there is a long list of do’s and don’ts that only pertain to Human Life and not to any other creature on earth. And the foundation for that long list is all because Human Life is sacred.

Well, guess what the font of Human Life is? Human sex. And lookee there, all sorts of boundaries around that too. Why? Because Human sex is sacred. Those boundaries help us to “see” how sacred Human Life is. Just as the special china is only used for very special occasions, it is that fact that the china helps us to “see” that an occasion is special. If the china were used every day, then the special occasions are diminished. So it is with the font of Human Life - when it is used for ordinary pleasure we lose sight that the fruits of that act are also sacred.
yes, many of us do it out of habit and also to releve tension.:o There are worse sins.
 
yes, many of us do it out of habit and also to releve tension.:o There are worse sins.
That’s the excuse? “Yes, I know it’s wrong there’s full knowledge], but I choose to do it anyway there’s consent] because there’re worse things there’s the selfish rationalization].”

I’m suddenly reminded of the Son of Sam in prison talking about how he wasn’t as bad as some of those other serial killers because he didn’t sexually torture his victims.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
yes, many of us do it out of habit and also to releve tension.:o There are worse sins.
I will point out also, that bad habits can be changed, and there are healthier and moral ways to relieve stress. Do your conscience and soul a favor and get right with God by desiring and attempting to walk in His light of truth; His grace affords it for the repentent fallen sinner.
 
Masturbation is always accompanied by lustful thoughts and Jesus said that willful lustful thoughts are essentially equivalent to adultery.
Ok.

But, I’m not sure that I agree with that always idea about lustful thoughts. Unless we got some objective source to test this idea out, I’m going to have to leave this in the category of ‘I believe’… or rather ‘You believe’, since I don’t believe it to be so.

Maybe very COMMON, but not ‘always’.

Still, while the lustful thoughts are essentially equivalent to adultery, I personally couldn’t see me asking for a divorce from my otherwise-doing-exactly-as-I-would-want husband, if I heard he had been masterbating during our marriage, as I would at least strongly consider it if it were with a more tangible partner.

Thoughts and people are two different things.
 
Ok.

But, I’m not sure that I agree with that always idea about lustful thoughts. Unless we got some objective source to test this idea out, I’m going to have to leave this in the category of ‘I believe’… or rather ‘You believe’, since I don’t believe it to be so.

Maybe very COMMON, but not ‘always’.

Still, while the lustful thoughts are essentially equivalent to adultery, I personally couldn’t see me asking for a divorce from my otherwise-doing-exactly-as-I-would-want husband, if I heard he had been masterbating during our marriage, as I would at least strongly consider it if it were with a more tangible partner.

Thoughts and people are two different things.
Sin is sin; immaturity is immaturity; lust is lust; infidelity is infidelity; bad habits are bad habits; …they just dress up differently, so says Jesus in his wisdom,justice and mercy:

“You have heard that it was said, `You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” **Matthew 5: 27-28 **
 
yes, many of us do it out of habit and also to releve tension.:o There are worse sins.
There may be worse sins, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is indeed a mortal sin (if done with full consent and full knowledge).
 
I am shocked after reading the previous threads in the forum. I assume a great number of you are Catholic too. Do men really need to masturbate? What will happen if you dont. Is this a must? Do you have to do it because you saw a pretty girl, or are you thinking of your wives? Where is your family when this goes on? Is this part of your daily routine or is this rare. I didnt think my husband would do this until I read the threads from other Catholic men. Also, do your wives know?
Pretty much all men masturbate, many will say they don’t but the vast majority do. If masturbation means hell then an incredibly large percentage of otherwise good Christians are going to hell.

I won’t say it’s impossible but close to it, but I know when I tried to stop after about two weeks of abstaining I started staying up until 4:00 AM trying to sleep for like a week straight.
 
I just had an insight about this subject in our day and age. Most people nowadays do not share a bedroom, or if they do it is with only one other sibling. Almost nobody in the industrialized world shares a bed with a sibling.

Could it be that in previous generations, when 5 kids slept in one room, 3 to a bed, that this was less common, simply because there was less opportunity for solitude?
 
Ok.

But, I’m not sure that I agree with that always idea about lustful thoughts. Unless we got some objective source to test this idea out, I’m going to have to leave this in the category of ‘I believe’… or rather ‘You believe’, since I don’t believe it to be so.

Maybe very COMMON, but not ‘always’.

Still, while the lustful thoughts are essentially equivalent to adultery, I personally couldn’t see me asking for a divorce from my otherwise-doing-exactly-as-I-would-want husband, if I heard he had been masterbating during our marriage, as I would at least strongly consider it if it were with a more tangible partner.

Thoughts and people are two different things.
For the most part, our thoughts are rooted in objective reality. The word “duck” is based on the duck species. So when you think lustfully of your “dear husband,” you are lustfully using him in a sense.
 
I just had an insight about this subject in our day and age. Most people nowadays do not share a bedroom, or if they do it is with only one other sibling. Almost nobody in the industrialized world shares a bed with a sibling.

Could it be that in previous generations, when 5 kids slept in one room, 3 to a bed, that this was less common, simply because there was less opportunity for solitude?
That actually makes more sense to me. On retreats, camping trips, hotel rooms with other people, or any other time I am not alone, I don’t masterbate. The risk of being caught and that embarrassment is too high.
 
But who would think evil to be good? :confused:
I believe most people think that evil is good or rather makes one feel good; drinking, drugs, sex, etc.
Also I know this is off topic but I’m really failing to get the big picture - why did God bother to put us here on Earth and why do we have the devil to tempt us?
God loves us, so He created the world and human to show His love. However, as we know from the bible, adam and eve committed the original sin.
Why would he want to create souls (if create is the right word :o) knowing that some would end up in Hell? The big question is WHY :confused:
Well, God gives us freewill. If He wants, God can control us, but what’s the point?

It’s like when a boy loves a girl, he will want the girl to love him back. If the girl refuses, he can use magic/ love potion so that the girl will love him under his control, but what’s the point?

Therefore, God wants us to love Him by our own choice.
Hopefully, I answer your question correctly. Someone has better explanation? or may be some correction?
 
That actually makes more sense to me. On retreats, camping trips, hotel rooms with other people, or any other time I am not alone, I don’t masterbate. The risk of being caught and that embarrassment is too high.
We can Not, “NOT” be alone all the time, shower is one example. Yes I do agree with the embarrasment etc, I HAVE been in that situation, the one “caught” in that situation,by a female cousin when I was a teenager: YIKES:eek:
 
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