Mentally disabled and salvation?

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I remember a few years ago, I went to this Baptist Church for about a year before I moved, and there was this mentally disabled person that would every once in a while come and visit. He would come on his own too since he lived right down the street. He was of course, more than welcome and the people at the church genuinely cared for the guy. He didn’t seem to have much understanding though. When we did a Bible study one time he interrupted with a million questions, many of which were irrelevant to the entire study, and often it was difficult to understand him since he did have a speech impediment. I distinctly remember one time during an actual service, he walked into the church and tried to start a conversation with the pastor while he was giving a sermon. It is understandable he didn’t mean to be rude or anything. He just didn’t understand. Fortunately, everyone there was very understanding and tried to help him out in anyway they could. I’m not sure exactly what he had though. I felt bad for the guy and we always tried to help him out.

Anyway, many mentally handicapped/disabled people can’t do certain things like understand the gospel or what sin is or, if they’re Catholic, they may not be able to do things such as confess. Does God make it “easier” for them to be saved in that when they do commit grave sins it’s not mortal since they don’t always have full understanding?

Also, I know this sounds like a naive and stupid question, and I am in no way challenging God or the Church, but why exactly does God allow people to be born with such disabilities? It’s not caused by the free will of humans it’s usually something that just happens.
 
Anyway, many mentally handicapped/disabled people can’t do certain things like understand the gospel or what sin is or, if they’re Catholic, they may not be able to do things such as confess. Does God make it “easier” for them to be saved in that when they do commit grave sins it’s not mortal since they don’t always have full understanding?

Also, I know this sounds like a naive and stupid question, and I am in no way challenging God or the Church, but why exactly does God allow people to be born with such disabilities? It’s not caused by the free will of humans it’s usually something that just happens.
Question 1: I suppose they are saved just as those of their corresponding mental age (i.e., infants or children) are; through Baptism and incorporation into the Church. “Invincible ignorance” could also be invoked here, but I don’t want to start a storm. 😛

Question 2: a very tough one, but I think these are consequences of living in a fallen world. A more positive explanation would be John 9:3; they exist so that the glory of God may be displayed. When we help them, stand up for their rights, prevent them from being aborted before birth, and work on legitimate medical treatments form them (= anything other than embryonic stem cell research!), we are giving glory to God, in whose image they are made. 🙂
 
I believe that God allows a fallen world to produce those who do not come up to our judgement of a useful intelligence to allow for the love of others to glorify Him. In so far as we do it for these we do it for God. If we did not have a reason to love we would become a sterile society. I also believe that as good people show consideration and love to the mentally disabled, how much more understanding will be given by a loving God. I envy anyone who has not the understanding to sin. Such a gift would compensate me for a less than happy life. Many of the mentally retarded perfected in their potential intellect, may well be living up the hill from us in heaven happy we just squeezed in. I always give them the respect reserved for the blessed of the Most High.
 
Blessed are those who are incapable of committing mortal sin!
This is actually the root of the old word “cretin” (a corruption of “Christian”) to refer to the mentally retarded; because of their condition, they are literally innocents (except for Original Sin).
 
I have noticed that excellent answers to the two connected questions (1) why god allowed birth defects and(2) whether mentally retarded persons can go to heaven are given in got question.org which is reproduced below.Though the basic answer to both the questions is that ‘we do know exactly’ as nothing specifically on the subject is said in the bible , there is hope as explained therein .

Question: “Why does God allow birth defects?”

Answer: The ultimate answer to this difficult question is that when Adam and Eve sinned (Genesis chapter 3), they brought evil, sickness, disease, and death into the world. Sin has been wreaking havoc on the human race ever since. Birth defects occur because of sin…not because of sins the parents or the baby have committed, but because of sin itself. The hard part of the question is why God allows people to be born with terrible birth defects and/or deformities. Why doesn’t God prevent birth defects from occurring?

The book of Job deals with the issue of not understanding why God allows certain things to occur. God had allowed Satan to do everything he wanted to Job except kill him. What was Job’s reaction? “Though he slay me, yet will I hope in him” (Job 13:15). “The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised” (Job 1:21). Job didn’t understand why God had allowed the things He did, but he knew that God was good and therefore continued to trust in Him. Ultimately, that should be our reaction as well. God is good, just, loving, and merciful. Often things happen to us that we simply cannot understand. However, instead of doubting God’s goodness, our reaction should be to trust Him. “Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight” (Proverbs 3:5-6).

Ultimately, the answer to this question has to be “I don’t know.” We will never be able to fully understand God and His ways. It is wrong for us to question why God allows something to occur. We simply have to trust that He is loving, good, and merciful – just like Job did – even when the evidence seems to indicate the opposite. Sickness and disease are the result of sin. God provided the “cure” for sin in sending Jesus Christ to die for us (Romans 5:8). Once we are in heaven, we will be free from sickness, disease, and death. Until that day, we will have to deal with sin, its effects, and its consequences. We can praise God, though, that He can and will use birth defects and other tragedies for our good and His glory. John 9:2-3 declares, “His disciples asked Him, ‘Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?’ ‘Neither this man nor his parents sinned,’ said Jesus, ‘but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.’”

Question: “Do mentally ill people go to heaven? Does God show mercy to those who are mentally challenged, disabled, or handicapped?”

Answer: The Bible does not specifically say whether or not mentally ill people go to heaven. However, there is some biblical evidence that anyone who is not able to make a decision for salvation is covered by Christ’s death. This is similar to how it is commonly believed that children are automatically taken to heaven when they die until they reach the point in which they are able to make a decision for or against Christ. David had a child die, and he comforted himself with the thought, “Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me” (2 Samuel 12:23). David knew that he would see his child in heaven one day. From that statement, we can assume that babies and young children were, by God’s grace, covered for salvation by Christ’s death.

We can postulate that mentally handicapped people are covered by this principle as well. The Word of God does not specifically say this, however. Knowing the love, grace, and mercy of God, this would seem consistent with His character. Any person who is mentally challenged to the extent that he could not be aware of his sinful state and believe in Christ for salvation is in the same category as a child, and it is not unreasonable to assume that person is saved by the grace and mercy of the same God who saves babies and small children.

As in everything, however, we must be careful not to be dogmatic about any issue the Bible does not specifically address. We do know that Jesus receives as His own all whom the Father has given to Him and He will lose none of them along the way (John 6:39). Jesus said of these, “And I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand” (John 10:28). We can take comfort in knowing that our God’s plan is always perfect, He always does what is right and just, and His love and mercy are infinite and everlasting.
 
Great questions and answers. I would add that they can have happy lives and they are very much loved.
 
Great questions and answers. I would add that they can have happy lives and they are very much loved.
Indeed. There’s an old Spanish saying that you should always ask a mentally challenged person to pray for you, because the Lord simply cannot refuse their pure requests. 😉
 
Indeed. There’s an old Spanish saying that you should always ask a mentally challenged person to pray for you, because the Lord simply cannot refuse their pure requests. 😉
I remember an old Irish priest who said that the greatest blessing in an Irish family is a child who is mentally retarded. They bring a sense of warmth and nurturing to the entire family. Things like sibling rivalry do not exist in these families because the focus is not on which of the children is the best looking, smartest, etc. but rather on the one who is perhaps lacking most in this area. They are families who appreciate kindness in people and the children in these families learn from an early age to stand up and defend those who are persecuted for being different. They are indeed a gift and a blessing from God.
 
I have some background with kids and young adults like this, as it is my job. The young man in your thread seems to lean more towards the higher functioning end of the spectrum. He is mostly verbal and has the ability to understand some abstract ideas.

It is possible to Catechise at a very rudimentary level. They can and do understand at some level the difference between right or wrong. This understanding fails, more often in social settings more than anywhere else of course.

It has been written that kids are closer to God than adults, and to a lessor degree some special needs adults as well. This is a weak answer to your second question. They are bound up with God in some special way that is beyond us to understand, but I feel sure of it.

There is suspicion of course that environmental factors may degrade or corrupt DNA and possibly RNA in parents. Toxins in food, water and in the air.
 
My earlier post (post no.6) reproducing the two excellent questions and answers on the subject : In my introductory para pl.read "we do not know exactly " instead of "we do know exactly " which was an error.Thanks.
 
I work with people that are mentally disabled and most have a mental age of about 4-9, I don’t see them not making it to Heaven as they just don’t understand to our level, the only one I really worry about is a woman with dementia as she wasn’t born that way and her mum used to take her to a spiritualist church.

As for birth defects, many that I support/care for had their problems created during pregnancy due to alcohol and such. One was damaged at birth with forceps.
 
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