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chero23
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Exactly, he denounced this man immediately and went after what he does (after Trump himself had him on his advisory council)
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chero23
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ExactlyYes within minutes he can denounce Frazier by name.
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chero23
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Why wouldn’t he; Frazier shows you that he has principle in this instance. Why would it not be ok to denounce his boss?How long did it take Frazier to resign and condemn Trump in the process?
Frazier is a grown man, he knows what happened on Saturday and he knows that if he stayed aboard the ship he would sink.
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chero23
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But when the right asked Obama to do the same wouldn’t your logic fall into place?Had he done so, he would have elevated “white supremacy” to the status of a movement worthy of note instead of the miniscule and disparate collection of fringe groups that it really is.
It seems to be your having double standards in regards to BLM and Obama vs Trump and the KKK
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SyroMalankara
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“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” Jan 23, 2016, Donald Trump.That’s just a personal insult. You can do better than this.
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chero23
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Really? Do you realize what the KKK did in America?MS-13 and Islamic terror actually are serious and significant threats to the populace. These little “white supremacy” groups are not.
Do you realize what the Nazis did?
Wow, I get it, your not a fan of liberals, but wow
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chero23
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I’m glad that he did so, now I hope the AG and the FBI go after David DukeI guess you have to criticize him now for bowing under the pressure.
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chero23
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The same reason which he denounces radical islam and MS-13, those 3 groups, (the MS, ISIS and the KKK/ Nazis) all they do is terrorize people.He denounced those who act out of “hatred and bigotry”. Why was it essential for him to say “white” in doing so?
Imagine if he had, or some occasion, like some police killing, denounced “black” hatred and bigotry.
No ifs ands or buts
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BoomBoomMancini
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This is a false dilemma I often see from would-be Trump whisperers. Trump will say or do something classless and impulsive, and then his supporters will go, “Ok, but what do you expect him to do? Just stand there and take it? He’s not allowed to defend himself?”Maybe presidents should not respond to critiques of any kind, but Frazier all but called Trump a racist.
In view of what virtually everybody thinks of as drug company gouging, (and rightly in many cases) that particular “virtue signaling” of Frazier’s virtually begged for the response it received.
One recalls Harry Truman offering to punch a newsman in the nose. At least Trump didn’t do that.
Of COURSE he is. We just expect him to to do like an adult instead of an angry internet troll. He’s a half step away from just replying, “Yeah, well, your mom.” every time someone criticizes him.
Frazier’s alleged price gouging is interesting too (I have no idea whether it’s true or not, for the record.) But if Trump believed Frazier to be a scammy price gouger, why was he on the advisory council in the first place? Trump was willing to look past that as long as Frazier didn’t publicly criticize him?
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EasterJoy
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The President could have just said, “It is unfortunate that Mr. Frazier chose this way of voicing his discontent. We had hoped to have his (name removed by moderator)ut on our manufacturing council, but we respect his decision and wish him well.”
Honestly, he doesn’t seem to have the slightest idea how to manage political drama. He is all gas pedal–no turn signal, no headlights, no tail lights and definitely no brakes.
Honestly, he doesn’t seem to have the slightest idea how to manage political drama. He is all gas pedal–no turn signal, no headlights, no tail lights and definitely no brakes.
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BoomBoomMancini
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Yep.The President could have just said, “It is unfortunate that Mr. Frazier chose this way of voicing his discontent. We had hoped to have his (name removed by moderator)ut on our manufacturing council, but we respect his decision and wish him well.”
Honestly, he doesn’t seem to have the slightest idea how to manage political drama. He is all gas pedal–no turn signal, no headlights, no tail lights and definitely no brakes.
“I’m sorry to see Mr. Frazier depart, and am especially disappointed that he decided to do so by misrepresenting my position and statement. I wish him well in the future.” Boom. 10 seconds.
Maybe it’s not as cathartic, but it’s definitely more adult.
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EricF
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He has done nothing to lessen the division in our country. Zero. There are those, even here, who believe Trump can do no right, and then there are those that are ready to canonize him St. Donald the Martyr. I lean more toward the former.
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Ridgerunner
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Was Trump required to approve of everything every member and his industry does in order to have him/her on the advisory council? Or were the chosen because they have an effect on their various industries and have a significant amount of knowledge about the interaction of their industries and the economy as a whole?Exactly, he denounced this man immediately and went after what he does (after Trump himself had him on his advisory council)
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stinkcat_14
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What I find amusing is the accusation of price gouging. First, how could Trump really determine the line between appropriate pricing and price gouging? For example, I am sure Trump charges healthy rents for his properties, how much higher would they have to be to be called gouging?
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Ridgerunner
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It is not possible for Trump to say anything at all without getting criticized for it. And Frazier really did, by implication, misrepresent what Trump said. Trump’s statement included two of the three “requirements” Frazier had for him. The only thing he didn’t say was “group supremacy”.Yep.
“I’m sorry to see Mr. Frazier depart, and am especially disappointed that he decided to do so by misrepresenting my position and statement. I wish him well in the future.” Boom. 10 seconds.
Maybe it’s not as cathartic, but it’s definitely more adult.
And if Trump had said “group supremacy” he would have been criticized, including by Frazier most likely, if he had said “group” instead of “white”.
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Ridgerunner
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When it comes to Merck, maybe Trump doesn’t know. But then, maybe he does.What I find amusing is the accusation of price gouging. First, how could Trump really determine the line between appropriate pricing and price gouging? For example, I am sure Trump charges healthy rents for his properties, how much higher would they have to be to be called gouging?
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SyroMalankara
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High enough that the Secret Service decided to use trailers outside the building.What I find amusing is the accusation of price gouging. First, how could Trump really determine the line between appropriate pricing and price gouging? For example, I am sure Trump charges healthy rents for his properties, how much higher would they have to be to be called gouging?
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Ridgerunner
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Let’s be honest with this. Trump is being criticized because he didn’t “go racial” and say “white” in talking about “hatred and bigotry”. He just condemned “hatred and bigotry” that occurred in the confrontation.
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Theo520
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That fact that he is delivering on his campaign promises will reduce division in the long run.He has done nothing to lessen the division in our country. Zero. There are those, even here, who believe Trump can do no right, and then there are those that are ready to canonize him St. Donald the Martyr. I lean more toward the former.
In the short run, there is no pacifying Dems except through impeachment.
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sallybutler
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Trump has now called out the Neo-Nazis, KKK, and white supremcists groups. Those who still think those groups are somehow okay, misunderstood, or just like every other group, know the President does not agree with you.It is not possible for Trump to say anything at all without getting criticized for it. And Frazier really did, by implication, misrepresent what Trump said. Trump’s statement included two of the three “requirements” Frazier had for him. The only thing he didn’t say was “group supremacy”.
And if Trump had said “group supremacy” he would have been criticized, including by Frazier most likely, if he had said “group” instead of “white”.
cnn.com/2017/08/14/politics/trump-condemns-charlottesville-attackers/index.html“Racism is evil – and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,”
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