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ProVobis
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The close ones where the margin was less than 1%.
Or do you want to convince me that the percentage of white supremists, racists, nazis, etc. in this country is less than that?
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Or do you want to convince me that the percentage of white supremists, racists, nazis, etc. in this country is less than that?
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SuperLuigi
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lmachine
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The page helpfully links to this page which refutes a previous post you made about Trump not being called racist until he was running against Democrats btw, you should check it out.
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dvdjs
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Nice of you to spell that out so that the absurdity is undeniable.
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chero23
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The right did the same thing with Obama . Obama was never seen as a racist until he was President. You know who did it, the right including Trump.
So now that your boy is showing his true colors you feel offended
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Finite
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I don’t know about all of that. I seem to remember him spearheading some conspiracy theory about someone trying to cover up their birthplace. What was that again?
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EasterJoy
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This is false.
Even though he was only registered as a Democrat from 2001-2009, he was accused of being a racist in print on for at least two separate incidents during that relatively brief timespan.
The first had to do with the 600 word ads he took out in four major New York newspapers that called for the death penalties for the teens charged in the Central Park jogger case. As it turns out, the DNA evidence later matched to an imprisoned murderer who admitted that he had raped the jogger and that none of the teens were present for the crime. The police had extracted false confessions from the teens. When Donald Trump would not apologize for trying to get the teens executed, he was called a racist. (You can find at least one instance of a quote from a demonstrator, printed in the New York Times.)
The other had to do with how black contestants fared in The Apprentice.
“Just as we were asked to believe that the portrayal of season 1’s Omarosa and season 2’s Stacie J. as nutcases had nothing to do with playing into hair-trigger-sistah stereotypes, we’re now asked to take at face value the idea that Allen and last season’s African-American finalist, Kwame Jackson, were simply a little too smooth, intelligent, and driven to succeed. In other words, what The Apprentice is suggesting is that corporations run by white people don’t hire African Americans because the women are crazy and the men waste too darn much time getting educations.”
from “Why the Apprentice is full of hot air,” Dec. 20, 2004
ew.com/article/2004/12/20/why-apprentice-full-hot-air/
By the way, it didn’t take me a lot of time to look that up. Why did you assert that Mr. Trump was never accused of racism without ever bothering to do the research to find out if what you were saying was true?
Admit it: You did not do any research on that before posting that assertion, did you?
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EasterJoy
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DId you actually do any research to confirm your suspicion that Mr. Obama was never accused of racism before he was elected President?
Look up the Jeremiah Wright controversy. It took place before he was President. Very very famous, a big deal at the time.
Good gravy, people, do some research!! The internet is full of enough misinformation as it is!
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ProVobis
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Maybe I spoke too soon. Down 274 points today.
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chero23
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Same thing can be said about Trump
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chero23
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Plus, the claim was not as big like it did once he hit his second term
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SuperLuigi
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SuperLuigi
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Point taken on the research. Guess you can’t trust anyone these days.This is false.
Even though he was only registered as a Democrat from 2001-2009, he was accused of being a racist in print on for at least two separate incidents during that relatively brief timespan.
The first had to do with the 600 word ads he took out in four major New York newspapers that called for the death penalties for the teens charged in the Central Park jogger case. As it turns out, the DNA evidence later matched to an imprisoned murderer who admitted that he had raped the jogger and that none of the teens were present for the crime. The police had extracted false confessions from the teens. When Donald Trump would not apologize for trying to get the teens executed, he was called a racist. (You can find at least one instance of a quote from a demonstrator, printed in the New York Times.)
The other had to do with how black contestants fared in The Apprentice.
“Just as we were asked to believe that the portrayal of season 1’s Omarosa and season 2’s Stacie J. as nutcases had nothing to do with playing into hair-trigger-sistah stereotypes, we’re now asked to take at face value the idea that Allen and last season’s African-American finalist, Kwame Jackson, were simply a little too smooth, intelligent, and driven to succeed. In other words, what The Apprentice is suggesting is that corporations run by white people don’t hire African Americans because the women are crazy and the men waste too darn much time getting educations.”
from “Why the Apprentice is full of hot air,” Dec. 20, 2004
ew.com/article/2004/12/20/why-apprentice-full-hot-air/
By the way, it didn’t take me a lot of time to look that up. Why did you assert that Mr. Trump was never accused of racism without ever bothering to do the research to find out if what you were saying was true?
Admit it: You did not do any research on that before posting that assertion, did you?
But neither of those examples are racist.
Also, it doesn’t mean Trump is or ever was a racist. I know a racist when I see one, to quote Herman Cain, and Trump is absolutely not a racist.
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No, but the racists loved it.
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It can be, depending on the reason the citizenship is being questioned.
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Jig_Saw
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Interesting…Paul Ryan said that Trump’s comments on the judge preceding over his Trump University case were the “textbook definition of a racist comment”.
People who make racist comments tend to be racist. Maybe you don’t know one when you see one after all.
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EasterJoy
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Racism is rash judgement, shunning or other treatment based to an appreciable degree on ethnic prejudice. I think the President is extremely opinionated, and sometimes he forms his opinions based on what demographic someone belongs to. That’s the region of “tends to be,” but when you get into “they are” instead of “they are more likely to be,” you’ve gone into rash judgement.Point taken on the research. Guess you can’t trust anyone these days.
But neither of those examples are racist.
Also, it doesn’t mean Trump is or ever was a racist. I know a racist when I see one, to quote Herman Cain, and Trump is absolutely not a racist.
In the Central Park jogger case, he was publicly insisting on execution two weeks after the teens were arrested and well before they were convicted. He spent $85,000 to push this opinion in four different newspapers. That was rash judgement. He would have been excluded from a jury for cause.
When the teens were exonerated because the DNA of a man who confessed to the crime matched DNA from the crime scene, Donald Trump refused to apologize. he would not admit that he had judged rashly.
Check me if I’m wrong, but he has a pattern of doing this. You know there are demonstrated cases where he stated things that were demonstrably contrary to the facts. Can you name a time when he apologized and admitted he had relied on incorrect information, as you just did? I suppose he has at one time or another, but I have had a very time finding an instance of it.
Whether or not he is racist is kind of a moot point, in my mind. I certainly don’t think he makes his rash judgments solely based on race. He is in the habit of speaking and acting rashly. He makes unjust judgments based on too little information, and once he makes them, he most often sticks to his judgment very stubbornly. That is an offense against the truth and a harmful habit. It also damages his reputation and undermines his authority, because of how often he makes claims that turn out to be untrue. Maybe he is too quick to believe third parties who tell him things that fit the picture he’s trying to paint, but he needs to change that.
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