Mercy in Islam

[Morning_Star15]

1John 5:7 is sufficient proof that Trinitarians corrupted the Scriptures by that manmade addition, though admittedly they didn’t corrupt them enough to make a good case for the Trinity doctrine.

As for Jesus’ words to which you refer, he was given authority to speak those words, not joking or blaspheming, yet he also said that without the Father he could do nothing.

The Quran says “fight those who fight you” something that Christians also have practised historicly.

His words “… my Father and your Father… my God and your God” from John 20:17 show that you’ve got it wrong:

the only true God is the One whom Jesus worshipped, not the triune concoction of later generations.

Please read what I wrote in post #132 on this thread - I already refuted this argument when it was made by Eldon.

 

[Verisimilitude]

… the only true God is the One whom Jesus worshipped, not the triune concoction of later generations.

If Jesus was just an inspired human being, and not G-d; what do you think His significance was?

If He was just a warner like Muhammed, what purpose were His miracles?

I find it strange that Islamists acknowledge Jesus, but dismiss the Christian significance taking rather Muhammeds view that He was a great man, but not as great as Muhammed who performed no miracles according to allah himslef in the Koran, and who did everything opposite Chrsit did.

Christ did not murder- Muhammed did.
Christ did not steal- Mohammed did.
Christ did not lead battles of war- Muhammad did.
Christ forgave those who persecuted Him- Muhammed assassinated them.
Christ said to give unto Caesar- Muhammed said give me 20%.

 

[Rocky]

Hubie said that “the only true God is the one whom Jesus worshipped.”

While the bible says that did Jesus did go off to pray, it does not say anywhere that Jesus *worshipped *the Father. There is a difference between praying and worshipping—especially in Catholic thought and practice. And even in the English language to use the word “pray” does not necessarily mean to “worship.”

The bible does say in several places, however, that Jesus was worshipped.

 

[cor]

If Jesus was just an inspired human being, and not G-d; what do you think His significance was?

If He was just a warner like Muhammed, what purpose were His miracles?

There were others that like Jesus performed miracles. For example Moses or Elisha. Elisha even, like Jesus did with Lazarus, raised someone from the dead. So performing great miracles was not unique to Jesus.

If Jesus referred to God as “my God” – as he did in a couple places, one quoted in this thread and the other on the Cross – that seems to suggest he worshipped him. Afterall that is what divine worship is, acknowledging the supreme deity of someone.

I don’t think though that Jesus’ worshipping “the Father” makes him necessarily inferior to the Father. But the verse where he proclaims that the Father is “greater than I” is hard to explain from a traditional Trinitarian perspective (it would be easier to explain from a Muslim perspective or a Mormon perspective for example)

 

[eliasaph99]

There were others that like Jesus performed miracles. For example Moses or Elisha. Elisha even, like Jesus did with Lazarus, raised someone from the dead. So performing great miracles was not unique to Jesus.

If Jesus referred to God as “my God” – as he did in a couple places, one quoted in this thread and the other on the Cross – that seems to suggest he worshipped him. Afterall that is what divine worship is, acknowledging the supreme deity of someone.

I don’t think though that Jesus’ worshipping “the Father” makes him necessarily inferior to the Father. But the verse where he proclaims that the Father is “greater than I” is hard to explain from a traditional Trinitarian perspective (it would be easier to explain from a Muslim perspective or a Mormon perspective for example)

The OT Prophets did not perform miracles under their own power. Although it is often a common manner of speaking to attribute the miracles to them (i.e. “Moses parted the Red Sea”), God performed the miracle through them.

Jesus is unique in that He performed miracles under His own power. Only God can do this, therefore, Christ is God.

 

[Verisimilitude]

But the verse where he proclaims that the Father is “greater than I” is hard to explain from a traditional Trinitarian perspective (it would be easier to explain from a Muslim perspective or a Mormon perspective for example)

Easier, yes, but not an accurate perspective. By becoming Flesh He was subject to the same limitations as every human while human so when He said that He was speaking true for the condition He was in.