What do you think of Jesus’ response to the Pharisees concerning the issue of divorce?:I’m not irreligious, but I I view homosexuality as completely natural and moral. Come at me with your best shot.
From my perspective, Jesus is clearly expressing his understanding of marriage and human sexuality here. And it is definitely heterosexual.
Considering we are both not Catholics and member’s of highly liberal religions.
Yes Jesus did say some people are incapable of marriage because they were born so. But was he talking about homosexuality? No. Two men and two women can also become one flesh.
I think homosexuality is a mix of natural (genetic) and environmental (upbringing) sources. At the very least, it’s been proven, quite clearly, there are genes that influence sexuality in some animals. Is there a homosexuality gene in people? If so, does that exert more influence than your moral upbringing?
Yes, this is a pathetic and foolish argument they love to use. Yes, some animals do have behavior that can be considered homosexual,but so what! rape, incest, war, torture, suicide, cannibalism, infanticide, …etc are also observed in the animal kingdom, even among high mammals, does that mean all these behaviors should be acceptable since animals do them? No. The gay animal argument is just stupid.
No, that’s clearly not what’s shown. Why do you think this is opinion and not research supported evidence towards a gay gene in animals?
Indeed. Keep this in consideration when you’re trying to convince a person that homosexuality is wrong. It’s much more difficult with a non-believer.
Give me an example, contradicting what I posted. Pleasure: a feeling of happy satisfaction and enjoyment
It’s subjective (oh noes, here come the moral relativist speeches) because there is no reigning moral authority. I have my morality, and you have yours. Logically, we are both right and wrong, assuming we disagree. Assuming you agree with me that homosexuality is moral, I would be right, and you would probably be wrong. The bible is pretty clear about homosexual acts being sinful.
Regardless of the incapability for marriage statement, Jesus was clearly endorsing the view that humans were created male and female, and that a man is meant to be joined to a woman in marriage. Two people of the same sex cannot become one flesh, anymore than my putting my hand in someone’s mouth makes me one flesh with that person. Only the male-female relationship is ordered towards the two becoming one flesh in intercourse and conception (regardless of whether conception actually occurs).
You sure about that?
The rules set forth in chapters 18 and 20 are meant to prevent the Israelites from doing what the Egyptians and Canaanites did. Now the Canaanite religions had something called sex rituals. This is what was going on in Canaan and Egypt at the time the Levitical rules were announced — homosexual temple prostitution. The Bible wasn’t prohibiting homosexuality it was prohibiting a pagan sex ritual which were part of the Canaanites religions.Yes
Put these into a context not anti-homosexual acts.
Already addressed that in previous post.
Arsenokoitēs could mean a number of things.
Nothing to do with homosexuality.
Nothing to do with homosexuality.
Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed because of homosexuality.
Can you give one reference to when ἀρσενοκοῖται does not mean homosexual? The word is literally “male sex”
" and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity."-Romans 1:27
It uses the same word 1 Corinthians 6:9 does for homosexual.
Perhaps, not JUST! It was one of several strikes against them, the men wanting to rape the (male) angels (even when offered girls instead) was the last straw
I can understand how come homosexuality is considered natural since one’s anatomy is not imported from Mars. But I have no clue what you mean by moral. Is it some kind of garden variety of “goody goody two shoes” which fades with the falling leaves?I’m not irreligious, but I I view homosexuality as completely natural and moral. Come at me with your best shot.
I too agree to have them “back up” their reasons why it is natural. In Romans Chapter 2:26-27 St. Paul even mentions homosexuality as unnatural. “…God handed them over to degrading passions. Females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and males…did shameful things with males and thus recieved in their own persons the due penalty for their perversion”
Its Chapter 2 not Chapter 1…Just FYI…I have the bible next to me.
