MERGED: Inappropriate attire worn by girl assisting at mass/Dress Code

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lizaanne said:
Hey - no flames from me. I don’t have a problem in the world with the priest actually doing the readings and distributing Holy Communion. What a concept. :rolleyes:

However - that is a bit off topic. The problem is that a partially dressed girl was allowed at the ambo. That needed to be resolved before it ever happened. If a properly clothed reader was up there, this thread never would have happened.

~Liza
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I agree with your last line, as well as all your posts, lizanne…👍

Sorry if I got off topic. 😊 :o
 
*Liza’s wonderfully wise!:):)🙂
When I was in ‘middle school’ back in the sixties, we would get The Weekly Reader and discuss news items we read. One scene that always will stick in my mind is of a person being mugged or beaten or something on a busy New York City sidewalk. That was a horrible scenario that paralleled the Good Samaritan story… We small towners couldn’t imagine anyone could be so callous, insensitive and irresponsible to avoid doing the right thing and intervening.
Liza for President!!!
Colmcille&Kin:D *

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Or not. And therein lies another layer of the problem. But again - it is a lack of adult responsibility that allowed this to happen. Parents, priest, parishioners, SOMEONE who could have stopped the girl from reading that day without proper clothing.

It’s like people walking by a person being beat to death and not doing anything. Everyone is ready to talk about it, but no one ever wants to do anything to change the situation. And I am NOT pointing the finger at the OP - he only noticed it when the girl got up to speak. She should have been stopped well before that. Surely someone knew who the reader was for that Mass, these things are not just a surprise.
 
I thought as Catholics our bodies are considered a temple and we are to dress them modestly at all times.:confused:

I think this virtue needs to be enforced more. Pure in dress leads you to pure thoughts and actions. It’s one of the many things I admire about LDS girls.
 
barb_finnegan said:
I know that EWTN has a dress code at both the chapel in Irondale and the Shrine of the Blessed Sacrament in Hanceville. There are wraps in the vestibules of both chapels for women to COVER UP if they come in wearing shorts and/or revealing tops.
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This is probably a good idea, but then again, who is to judge? What is indecent in the eyes of an 80 year old is perhaps only immodest in the eyes of a 50 year old, passes for average in the eyes of a 30 year old, and well-dressed, cute, and smart in the eyes of a 16 year old.

I also think to give equal time to the men, there should also be suspenders in the vestibule for those who come in wearing pants and shorts that just can’t seem to stay up at the natural waist. Added benefit: in order to wear suspenders, you have to tuck in your shirt. 👍
 
ChemicalBean said:
… who is to judge?
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Here we go - back to that “judging is bad” thing again. Yes, all things are relative. But common sense should tell anyone that you don’t go into Church with yourself half bare naked on the top or bottom half! If the older ones don’t get that then shame on them, and if the younger ones don’t get it, then shame on their parents!

~Liza
 
As seen at a church in Italy:

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The Words say:

“Also the body has its own language.”

“Dress with dignity and respect the sacred place.”
 
1st and foremost…women serving on or around the Altar is the most important problem, followed by this young ladies poor choice of attire (occasion of sin for some people) is nearly as bad…This is unacceptable and should not be allowed.
blaskoman said:
Should there not be some level of decency as to what one wears while serving at Mass?! At last Sunday’s Mass, the girl (about 16 yrs old) who did the readings and the petitions wore extremely tight and very short shorts. Her tank top was somewhat revealing as well, but acceptable. Should I complain to the parish priest about this incident? My church, imo, needs to have a dress code for those serving at Mass…
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I have two words for bad dress attire for girl servers: flip flops
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I have two words for bad dress attire for girl servers: flip flops
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I have two words for bad dress attire for girl servers: flip flops
:rolleyes:
 
Colmcille said:
Do you know the language Milesius? How would it be translated, “Dress with dignity and respect the workplace?” //off topic//
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It says:

“EVEN THE BODY HAS
ITS OWN LANGUAGE”

Dress with dignity and
respect the sacred place

An attire is improper *
without sleeves, in miniskirt, in shorts.*
 
Liza,
I am with you all the way!
After having attended a SPPX service and a couple of TLM’s, I find that I liked getting dressed with a little more care. Even hubby looked good for a change. It was as if we were truly going to see the KING, not just schelp our way to our “obligation”.

Am I saying that every must dress to the nines? Of course not. But even at Good Will one can find something with sleeves in it and a skirt that covers one’s rear. Do what I do, just go the GW or SA or even ebay and get yourself one good “church lady” dress and you’re good to go!
 
I agree with Liza. I don’t like to see immodestly dressed women in general but it especially bothers me at Mass. I see many adult women in tight clothing, cleavage, etc. Seeing lecturers and Eucharistic ministers dress inappropriately drives me over the edge. I wrote an email to a priest about the attire of one Eucharistic minister (wearing sphaghetti strap dress). He never responded. It got to the point where I had to confress my anger at these women. The priest said I was justified in my anger and told me to be careful about thinking that I was being judgmental because this type of thinking leads to relativism. I do try to take his advice and not focus on it at Mass. I wish the people that defend these people would realize that at Mass, you are going to be in the Real Presence of our Lord. Just dress like you were going to meet a very important person - the Pope or the President. Would you really wear tight jeans or a tank top if you were going to meet them? I blame the parents for the way this young girl was dressed. It’s all part of our immoral culture. When people tell me, that’s what’s in style, I tell them that God never changes. He doesn’t care what’s in style.
 
When I visited St. Peter’s basilica in Rome with my parents; women weren’t allowed to wear sleeveless blouses/dresses. The arms had to be covered, as part of being modestly attired. I wonder if that’s still true.
I’ve seen a photo of a young girl with a low-cut top, smiling and posed next to a religious sister. I’ve concluded that many young girls just aren’t aware they’re being immodest. It’s kind of innocent and they have to be told (tactfully) what’s what.:rolleyes:
 
I have a quick question.

If a local parish wanted to institute a dress code, how would it be enforced?

Would ushers stand at all entrances and turn people away who were not dressed according to the parish dress code?

What if that person ignored the usher, would they get “physical”? Would the police need to be called and the person charged with trespassing to get them to leave?

Or would the dress code be more of a reminder and a hope that everyone would follow it? I think anything more than this would require the bishop to approve it.
 
Anyone who serves as a Lector, Communion minister, usher/greeter etc should be dressed modestly & in at least, type business casual clothes at minimum in my opinion.

Ideally, the same for the congregation too for anyone over the age of reason ( age 7 ).

I do remember feeling resentful when my sister (at the time age 15) came to the Mass held for the graduates (that I was in as I was graduating high school - the church honored both high school and uni/college grads in the church each year in June) wearing a tee and long shorts, and Air Jordan tennis shoes. Why my parents didn’t make her wear a regular shirt and pants (or even culottes, perhaps a skirt), I will never know.

Another time, years later, she came to our grandmother’s funeral Mass wearing a light colored business style suit with pants. The jacket and shirt were skin tight, and exposing some cleavage. I understand my sister is a lapsed Catholic but I thought she knew better.

I know my mother complains about my cleavage, but I know to cover it up when going to church with a business style blazer, a sweater, or a shawl. I remember being all dressed for a concert out of town, and went to a church, and covered my cleavage with a sweater that was easily removed in my car after Mass as the long dress with cleavage exposure was fine for the concert, not for church.
 
I think showing cleavage is immodest.🤷
I think it’s the times, although in Napoleon’s time, it was also fashion. On t.v. you’ll see women lawyers and D.A. assistants showing cleavage and wearing skin tight clothing (mostly to show off perfect figures).
But I honestly believe that most young women (and perhaps not-so-young women) don’t really mean to be intentionally immodest. They are perhaps just not aware of what they look like to other people and perhaps still feel like children.
In one of the Papal masses on EWTN, I saw a young woman in the audience who was showing cleavage and scowling. Go figure.🤷
 
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