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what traits does Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda exhibit that would make him similar to Jesus? Does he raise the dead? Cure the sick? Walk on water? feed 5000 people with just a few loaves of bread?
 
santaro75 said:
what traits does Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda exhibit that would make him similar to Jesus? Does he raise the dead? Cure the sick? Walk on water? feed 5000 people with just a few loaves of bread?
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well didn’t you read? he’s great at collecting money :eek:
 
BebedeJesus said:
Well, in stating that the false christs/prophets would do these things…it should be a clue of how you’d know. But then again to understand that you’d have to know how to divide the Bible.
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You mean there’s some secret knowledge I need in order to attain salvation? Sounds like garden-variety Gnosticism to me.

Mark 13:21-22:
And then if any one says to you, “Look, here is the Christ!” or “Look, there he is!” do not believe it. False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
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Matthew 24:26-27:
So, if they say to you, “Lo, he is in the wilderness,” do not go out; if they say, “Lo, he is in the inner rooms,” do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
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Not to mention: Galations 1:6-9:
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel – not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, If any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
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BebedeJesus said:
Of course you’d have difficulty envisioning Christ in any way other than the mystical way he has been presented f/ over 2,000 yrs. He was NOT poor! If so, why did he have a treasurer???:cool:
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Hey! Does this guy have a social security number? I’d like to check his tax-exempt status before donating.

Oh, nevermind. If the Jesus from 2000+ years ago was not poor, I’m sure he tucked away a few bucks for his eventual return so he wouldn’t need my measly few bucks 😉

But Wait!!! He’s taking donations now! That doesn’t make sense. He told his apostles to take nothing with him when they traveled, I’d assume the old Jesus did the same. Probably because he had no material possesions. I feel quite confident the treasurer you speak of had a real easy job managing finances.
 
Uncle_David said:
Hey! Does this guy have a social security number? I’d like to check his tax-exempt status before donating.

Oh, nevermind. If the Jesus from 2000+ years ago was not poor, I’m sure he tucked away a few bucks for his eventual return so he wouldn’t need my measly few bucks 😉

But Wait!!! He’s taking donations now! That doesn’t make sense. He told his apostles to take nothing with him when they traveled, I’d assume the old Jesus did the same. Probably because he had no material possesions. I feel quite confident the treasurer you speak of had a real easy job managing finances.
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RIght there.

Didn’t Jesus’ ‘treasurer’ betray him for money and then eventually killed himself? 😃

Is that the reason why he accepts donations now??:confused:

To all those who are following people claiming to be Jesus…

Come on, Jesus (the real one) said there would be many who will claim to be him and warns us against such people. Why do you follow such people?

P.S. (Doesn’t we Christians confess that Jesus will return to ‘judge the living and the dead’? Then if that guy really is Jesus, why doesn’t He judge the living and the dead yet? Is he too busy destroying the other religions?)
 
For the record though, what would happen if authorities decide to execute this guy?
Will he rise up from the dead?
Will there be an earthquake at his death?
Will he be given vinegar to drink?
Will he be crucified JW-style or Traditional style?
Will a rich guy offer his tomb for his use? (Oh wait a minute, he’s already rich)
Will his mother and friend come and see him?
Will his executioners gamble for his possessions?
Will he have a placard above his head saying ‘Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda of (wherever he is from), who is actually Jesus of Nazareth, The King of the Jews and whatever nationality, Founder of Christianity, Lord and Savior for billions of people, Rabbi, Miracle Worker, Teacher, Word made Flesh, Begotten of the Father, Lamb of God’’?😃
(Come to think of it, that would be a HUGE placard.)😃

Sorry, couldn’t resist.😃

P.S. (If the placard is made in three languages, it would be bigger, as big as the Billboards down on the street. I only wonder what type of font he prefers on his placard.)
 
patrick457 said:
Will he have a placard above his head saying ‘Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda of (wherever he is from), who is actually Jesus of Nazareth, The King of the Jews and whatever nationality, Founder of Christianity, Lord and Savior for billions of people, Rabbi, Miracle Worker, Teacher, Word made Flesh, Begotten of the Father, Lamb of God’’?😃
(Come to think of it, that would be a HUGE placard.)😃

Sorry, couldn’t resist.😃

P.S. (If the placard is made in three languages, it would be bigger, as big as the Billboards down on the street. I only wonder what type of font he prefers on his placard.)
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If it was in three languages it’d be bigger than the cross itself!
 
These type of people pop up all the time. Have you ever heard of Jesus’ younger brother?

He is described in “God’s Chinese Son: The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom of Hong Xiuquan” by Jonathan D. Spence.

He began a rebellion in China and tried to establish a new kingdom there; claiming he was Jesus Christ’s younger brother.

It emerged into the single bloodiest civil war in world history; the T’ai ping Rebellion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

It was crushed by my favourite person in history Gen. Charles Gordon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_George_Gordon
 
Montalban said:
These type of people pop up all the time. Have you ever heard of Jesus’ younger brother?

He is described in “God’s Chinese Son: The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom of Hong Xiuquan” by Jonathan D. Spence.

He began a rebellion in China and tried to establish a new kingdom there; claiming he was Jesus Christ’s younger brother.

It emerged into the single bloodiest civil war in world history; the T’ai ping Rebellion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion

It was crushed by my favourite person in history Gen. Charles Gordon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_George_Gordon
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that is pretty scary
 
santaro75 said:
that is pretty scary
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Hong Xiuquan; he had heard a small amount of the Bible that had been translated by Baptist missionaries.

And Gen. Charles Gordon was a non-conformist religious dude too - who lead a force called “The Ever Victorious Army” and helped crush the rebellion.

Later he was in the Sudan and took on another ‘messiah’; Mahommed Ahmed the Islamic “Mahdi” (the “Expected One”)

See
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahommed_Ahmed
and
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

Without wanting to go too off-topic, the Mahdi’s followers were put down by a Brittish force that included a very young Winston Churchill who wrote “The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan”
 
Lillith said:
He sounds more like the Anti-Christ…
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Matthew 24
4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,[a]’ and will deceive many.
 
does Bebe need more than these warnings?

And then if any one says to you, “Look, here is the Christ!” or “Look, there he is!” do not believe it. False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.

Matthew 24:26-27:

So, if they say to you, “Lo, he is in the wilderness,” do not go out; if they say, “Lo, he is in the inner rooms,” do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man

Some people do really amaze me with their gullibility.
 
Awww meeen! Another one! Too many people have claimed this very very unworthy title for them!!! I can’t take this! The times are coming. False prophets everywhere! I’m just gonna pray on this… Anyone care to join? 😉
 
ssejllenrad said:
Awww meeen! Another one! Too many people have claimed this very very unworthy title for them!!! I can’t take this! The times are coming. False prophets everywhere! I’m just gonna pray on this… Anyone care to join? 😉
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i feel it as well.
 
All you have to do to prove this guy is a fake is to go up to him and start speaking to him in Koine Greek and Aramaic. If the dude is really Jesus incarnate, he would have no problem speaking these languages. Just a hunch…I bet he can not.

Another thing he points to is Mark 13:22. Since he says he does no miracles or “signs and wonders,” then the verse is not referencing him. Haha! How convenient is that…“I won’t do miracles so you guys KNOW I’m not a false christ.”
 
Guardian said:
All you have to do to prove this guy is a fake is to go up to him and start speaking to him in Koine Greek and Aramaic. If the dude is really Jesus incarnate, he would have no problem speaking these languages. Just a hunch…I bet he can not.

Another thing he points to is Mark 13:22. Since he says he does no miracles or “signs and wonders,” then the verse is not referencing him. Haha! How convenient is that…“I won’t do miracles so you guys KNOW I’m not a false christ.”
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Good one!👍

Since when did Jesus reincarnate Himself?
Did He experience ‘soul amnesia’? (But wait! He’s God, so He can’t possibly have that condition) 😃

Did someone steal His powers and needs donations to fund His expedition to get it back and then start destroying religions? 😃

I do wonder who’ll be His 12 apostles. Preferably He should choose no one who’ll betray Him and commit suicide later.
 
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