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MyPhilomena
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My thought? IGNORE him. simple and easy.
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hosemonkey
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P.T. Barnum was right folks. There is indeed a sucker born every minute. And there will always be charlatans who prey on the gullibility of those who seek solace and answers to life’s sometimes incomprehensible problems. It is a pity that they would rather believe some slick con man than believe in the true Faith as taught by our Holy Mother Church.
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thistle
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Here I was thinking it was just your crazy leader who was one can short of a six pack. I guess I was wrong. It is also his followers!Please read the following scriptures: Galatians 2:6-8. These verses confirm that there were two gospels:
Circumcision and UNcircumcision. Peter was SUPPOSED to teach/preach to the Jews the gospel of Circumcision and Paul was to go to the Gentiles with the gospel of UNcircumcision. This is something that no one has ever clarified whether they knew it or not. It has never been told until 20 yrs ago that Jose Luis de Jesus started preaching it.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are historical books. If you read the first chapter of Luke verses 1-4, he explains that like the others he wanted to write in order a declaration of those things… other languages “declaration” is actually HISTORY. Put the history in order is what he is saying. So, that confirms that the term placed before each of their names: “gospels” is erroneous.
Galatians 2:11-14 then, explains how Peter KNOWING he was to preach to the Jews was “dissimulating” among the Gentiles.(Ephesians 3:6-10)
Even Jesus of Nazareth had told Peter and the other disciples NOT to go into the way of Gentiles in Matthew 10:5-6. But Peter still obligated the Gentiles to follow Judaism and yet, he lived as a Gentile…Peter if you remember clearly is the first Pope.
Paul stated that once he (Paul) was gone, grevious wolves would enter among us, not sparing the flock (Acts 20:29) Who are those wolves? Galatians 2:3-5, says that Titus was compelled/ obligated to be circumcised, there were false brethren among them. Titus 1:10 says there are many unruly and vain talkers and he names them: ESPECIALLY THOSE OF THE CIRCUMCISION.
I don’t want to make a poster here so I will let you look into the above information…Remember, 1 Thes 5:21 “Prove ALL things; holdfast that which is good”…Blessed.
The BEST day!
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Guardian
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Now now people…let’s not call BebedeJesus names nor say he/she is a nutcase.
At least BebedeJesus has biblical backup for his/her claims. While we obviously think the interpretation is wrong, one nonetheless can come to those terms of interpretation if there is no standard of historical analysis.
It really all comes down to your interpretation verses BebedeJesus’ interpretation. Which is futile.
This is why it is so important to have Sacred Tradition. BebedeJesus must believe, just like the Protestants, that God let his faithful followers into falsehood. This is the crux of the issue.
For BebedeJesus, God’s followers have been in darkness for almost 2,000 years. This is the reality that BebedeJesus must conclude. Who would want to serve a God that allowed all his followers to have a depraved mind? Do we serve an impotent uncaring God that does not care about people knowing the truth, and then chose to finally reveal all the truth 2,000 years after the Resurrection by reincarnating Jesus into a random Puerto Rican guy that loves money and thinks everyone should be rich? Or do we serve a loving God that is just and has always revealed the path of truth and righteousness to his followers consistently throughout the ages, even if they chose not to always follow Him?
At least BebedeJesus has biblical backup for his/her claims. While we obviously think the interpretation is wrong, one nonetheless can come to those terms of interpretation if there is no standard of historical analysis.
It really all comes down to your interpretation verses BebedeJesus’ interpretation. Which is futile.
This is why it is so important to have Sacred Tradition. BebedeJesus must believe, just like the Protestants, that God let his faithful followers into falsehood. This is the crux of the issue.
For BebedeJesus, God’s followers have been in darkness for almost 2,000 years. This is the reality that BebedeJesus must conclude. Who would want to serve a God that allowed all his followers to have a depraved mind? Do we serve an impotent uncaring God that does not care about people knowing the truth, and then chose to finally reveal all the truth 2,000 years after the Resurrection by reincarnating Jesus into a random Puerto Rican guy that loves money and thinks everyone should be rich? Or do we serve a loving God that is just and has always revealed the path of truth and righteousness to his followers consistently throughout the ages, even if they chose not to always follow Him?
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rayne89
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I just watched a report on this guy. He claims he is greater than Jesus of Nazareth and that he can’t be killed. They showed video of his followers protesting outside a Cathedral and smashing statues of Jesus by throwing them in the street.
This guy needs an exorcism.
This guy needs an exorcism.
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Melanie01
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So…when I was a student nurse there were 3 guys in the ward claiming to be Jesus Christ…our job was to keep them away from one another…
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Unfinished
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I don’t know why, but this made me laugh.
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BebedeJesus
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It’s not random:
the promise to Abraham HAS to be fulfilled…Galatians 3:16
According to a prophecy it would be the seed of Jesse:
Isaiah 11:1-5 (Jesus of Nazareth did NOT counsel nor did he bring judement and he didn’t slay the wicked…this was the SECOND manifestation or coming)
The seed of Jesse: Isaiah 11:10
The root of Jesse will reign (in Greek the word is GOVERN) over the gentiles and the gentiles will trust in HIM…Romans 15:9-12
He has to be revealed in HIS TIME…then will the wicked be revealed and HE will consume him with HIS MOUTH (speaking… words?)…2 Thes 2:6-8
Now, the mystery is that Israel will continue blind until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete…Romans 11:25-29
“For to this end Christ both died, and rose and RELIVED (KJV~revived) the HE might be Lord both of the dead and living.” Jesus of Nazareth died and rose from the dead but the second coming is when HE RELIVES! ~HE~ is God in HIS second manifestation…Abba Father!
I understand that the Jews had rejected that Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah because according to their belief he’d come from royalty and with diplomas from great studies…and yet God chose a man that was a carpenter.
What make you think that second time around anyone would accept the man HE chose to manifest HIMSELF?
The Bible states that there would be persecution: 1 Cor 4:-14. Acts 18:13 is one of the things man can’t handle about what HE teaches. He has received threats since back in the 80’s, before revealing WHOM HE is. People couldn’t accept that HE would present us perfect in Christ(Colossians 1:28). And so a blessed in the congregation put his service to protect HIM as Paul had to do at one point(Acts 9:23-29). Jose Luis DOES NOT take from the tithings/offerings to cover security expenses, that is yet another gift from us!
Maybe I shouldn’t even go into details but I will put it out there and let the angels deal with each of you (people criticize…even when the other has done good): when Jose Luis de Jesus started back in 1986, he sold everything he owned to be able to get the Word out. He knew the importance of the word of God having free course and being glorified.(2 Thes 3:1) Now, HE is receiving exceeding in abundancy as promised to all of us(Ephesians 3:20). And if what you are worried about is HIM having money…humbleness is NOT being poor.
We all are prosperous. Not one of HIS children is left without…or would you rather HE want the riches for HIMSELF only? My Father wants me to live like HIM…HIS BABY AKA BEBE…that’s what the angels are for, to provide more than enough to live because to live on earth you need $$.
Some of us love to give HIM gifts. Well, if you’ve read some of Jesus of Nazareth’s story, you’ll see HE never turned away gifts. Like the woman that poured VERY expensive perfume, as a matter of fact, it was a year’s worth of salary in that time…OOOOOHHHH and the disciples reacted like you have, they told him he should sell it and give to the poor and he set them straight right there.
Blessed, I declare the mind of Christ activated in you. I want to make some of this jog your brain. I have seen and lived situations that have prepared me f/ this moment, grace in it’s fullness…pure …no law/works mixed in.
Then, came the scriptures that prove that it wasn’t religion that subvert whole houses.(Titus 1:10-11) Their mouths must be stopped!! Not with fists or violence but with KNOWLEDGE. You have to know where your beliefs come from…tradition is not a foundation/base for beliefs. “Because my parents or grandparents taught me…” What is the foundation of that belief
INVESTIGATE.I don’t take my time to answer to this forum because I have nothing else to do…I have plenty to do but I want everyone to see what’s out there…not everything is what you think. Don’t assume.
I declare the BEST day, prosperity(2 Cor 8:9), perfect health(2 Cor 4:10) and angels at your service(Hebrews 1:14)!!
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BebedeJesus
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Where is it that you found this information: that the true faith is taugh by your HOLY MOTHER CHURCH
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BebedeJesus
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What was the phrase that became so popular back when this movie came out
OH, YEAH:
“U CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!”
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Michael_Francis
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Posts deleted…sarcasm ill becomes charity.
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Guardian
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BebedeJesus: You missed my whole point. You stated:
Why would anyone want to believe in a god like that?
My God was, is, and will be faithful to all His followers, from the beginning of time till the end of the age. He will not lead them into darkness but let the truth of His glory and honor and divine plan shine bright, as He has since the beginning.
My whole point is that you believe in a god that has let his faithful followers be in the darkness for 2,000 years. You believe in a god that has not revealed the truth to people for 2,000 years. You believe in a god that let people that sought His truth be led into falsehood for 2,000 years. This is the ultimate conclusion you must acknowledge.
Why would anyone want to believe in a god like that?
My God was, is, and will be faithful to all His followers, from the beginning of time till the end of the age. He will not lead them into darkness but let the truth of His glory and honor and divine plan shine bright, as He has since the beginning.
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sea_oat
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If only it were that simple.
Evil must be addressed, particularly if it’s leading millions of people astray.
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sea_oat
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Wjp, I’m pretty sure now that bebe is serious, and it’s frightening.
The typical troll burns out quickly. Not many of them would spend this much time learning about, and arguing in favor of a topic he/she didn’t believe in.
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wjp984
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it really does not seem that hard to me to do though. I could easily do the same thing just by reading the webpage and regurgitating what the defenes are. Although I do not know the Bible well enough, many protestants know it very very well so it would require little effort to play some stupid little mind game like this.
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sea_oat
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I showed this thread to a member of another message forum I’m on, and he pointed out this post. Good thing, because I missed it.
So you admit this guy is an Anti Christ. Don’t you see how inherently evil this whole thing is? A person CANNOT be against Christ to be for God, and the real Jesus is NOT against Himself.
Do you think the Scriptures speak of a favorably of the Anti Christ? Laughable.
I’m sad to say you’re being duped in one of the strangest ways possible.
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cathlicnlovinit
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Is it just me or is this one REALLY SCARY!!!
Many of the people that claim to be Christ are sad, but funny. This one seems very eerily demonic. Not necessarily his followers, but him and his teachings. Also, did you notice that when Bebe speaks of him he capitalizes his pronouns. Like we would for references to Christ. Scary.
Anyone who follows someone who claims to be Christ but desacrates Christian symbols is scary. Also, how could he be Christ returned but be born of another woman, have a wife, and yet seem to claim to not be Jesus of Nazareth?
Lastly, how can you claim to be the Christ of the Bible and openly be an/the ANTI-CHRIST?
Christ Jesus of Nazareth help us all,
Heather
Many of the people that claim to be Christ are sad, but funny. This one seems very eerily demonic. Not necessarily his followers, but him and his teachings. Also, did you notice that when Bebe speaks of him he capitalizes his pronouns. Like we would for references to Christ. Scary.
Anyone who follows someone who claims to be Christ but desacrates Christian symbols is scary. Also, how could he be Christ returned but be born of another woman, have a wife, and yet seem to claim to not be Jesus of Nazareth?
Lastly, how can you claim to be the Christ of the Bible and openly be an/the ANTI-CHRIST?
Christ Jesus of Nazareth help us all,
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BebedeJesus
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See that last comment is exactly what proves believers are in the dark ~ apostasy…CHRIST JESUS OF NAZARETH HELP US ALL??? He already helped us all, in his death and resurrection:
Jose Luis de Jesus is NOT Jesus of Nazareth…
Jesus of Nazareth was a veil, a manifestation of God in flesh. Why would the Messiah have to come back??? To die again?
It specifically says in the Bible that “with one offering HE made us perfect forever” and there is NO MORE offerings for sin.
What will you do then??? Have Him incarnate and be crucified every time your flesh makes you do things that are wrong (wrong NOT sin!)
God comes back in flesh AGAIN in whomever He desires. He had done it even before Jesus of Nazareth…did u know that
See, this is exactly what no one seems to understand: You have to let go of the Christ that died to be of “another” ~ the resurrected. God doesn’t want us to be like that veil (Jesus of Nazareth). He wants us to follow Him after His resurrection. And since HE didn’t stay to live among us to know how that is …HE gave that revelation to Paul. And so we were supposed to imitate Paul!
ANTI CHRIST: AGAINST CHRIST NOT GOD!!!
Against following the Christ that came on a mission…to die on the cross. Which he completed and that’s it…in that crucifixion many things took place:
HE destroyed the devil
took away sin
gave end to the law of Moses and so started a NEW COVENANT ~UNCIRCUMCISION which has been in our Bibles f/ thousands of years and even now that it is explained in detail NO ONE sees it
We don’t need symbols to show who we believe, love and trust. We know God loved us sooooo much that HE incarnated in a body to do the ultimate sacrifice: take sin and JUSTIFY us Forever. Crosses don’t show anything but the lack of knowledge…He doesn’t want us to carry memory of what killed HIM…He wants u to live as though you accept what HE did on that cross. If you don’t LIVE as if HE completed it all then symbols don’t mean anything.
And as far as idols:bowdown: :
virgin mary, jesus of nazareth…HE HATES STATUES!!!
God says not to make images of what’s on earth or in the skies. Why do u need to have these objects that have feet but don’t walk, mouths but don’t talk, eyes and don’t see. The Bible states their followers (of these statues) are just as them!! THOSE ARE THE “CHRISTIAN” OBJECTS WE DID AWAY WITH…IT’S NOT CHRISTIAN. It’s tradition and lies that keep everyone confused and has managed to cause more pain/trauma than anything else.Declaring the BEST day!
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Guardian
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Bebede:
You still haven’t answered me.
WHY WOULD A LOVING GOD LEAVE HIS FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS IN THE DARK AND HAVE THEM BE DECEIVED INTO FALSEHOOD FOR 2,000 YEARS???
You still haven’t answered me.
WHY WOULD A LOVING GOD LEAVE HIS FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS IN THE DARK AND HAVE THEM BE DECEIVED INTO FALSEHOOD FOR 2,000 YEARS???
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sea_oat
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Since the real Jesus was God in the flesh, one cannot be against Him, without being against God at the same time.
ANTI CHRIST: AGAINST CHRIST NOT GOD!!!
Against following the Christ that came on a mission…to die on the cross. Which he completed and that’s it…
For argument’s sake, yes, God says, in the Book of Exodus, not to make graven images. Problem is, you’re bringing up something from the “Law of Moses,” which you essentially said isn’t relevant anymore.virgin mary, jesus of nazareth…HE HATES STATUES!!!
Technically, why would it be important for a person to follow a prohibition from a “Law of Moses,” which you said has already been “ended?”
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