Messiah/Christ In Islam

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Muslims:

What dose Islam teach about the Christ? What dose “Messiah” mean in Islam?

I’m not asking you what the Bible teaches, or what we Christians teach, but what you believe Christ/Messiah means.

I look forward to your answers. 🙂
 
Its not important what nowadays Muslims think about Jesus, but the most important is what Muhammed said about Him.

Read this CAF thread for more details.
 
Thank you for the link. But it didn’t answer the question.

What I want to know is, what dose Islam teach about the word “Messiah/Christ”? What dose it mean in Islam?
 
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Eucharisted said:
…what dose Islam teach about the word “Messiah/Christ”? …
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the most important matter Islam teaches about Christ , Muhammed (pbut) & others are they are not equal to God , they are the humble servants of God Almighty.

related link :

10 brief points Christians
should know about Muslims and Jesus (p)

soundvision.com/info/christmas/10muslimbeliefs.asp
 
I am not a Muslim but from my own research, Muslims’ information on Jesus at best is patchy otherwise it is just ignorance and in error.

A few have been discussed here:

The talking baby Jesus - plain silly and illogical. The least that baby Jesus would want was to create a scene that invited curiousity and interest on him. Remember Herod was looking to kill him.

That God rescued Jesus from crucifixion from the cross. No reason was given at all for this and how the rescue was done. Again this is illogical. If the purpose of this revelation is to clear Christian belief that Jesus was crucified, surely an explanation would be given for such important issue but there was none.

Islam / Quran does not understand what Christ means as in Jesus Christ. Explanation that is given now is taken from Christians’ understanding of it and sometimes errorneously. Even if it is not, it seems much like an after thought of modern Muslims who have been better exposed to Christianity. Basically Islam thinks that Christ is a name rather than a title or description.

Generally, Islam does not know Jesus, like who was his friends and disciples, what his teachings are and what he stood for. Contrary to what many Muslims claim, Jesus did not, as his main teaching, taught on the oneness of God. In Jesus’ time, his disciples did not worship him as God and much of his teaching on him being God was to be understood after the disciples witnessed his death and ressurection.
 
I’ll try to answer. Especially since Rueben and inJESUS seem poised to confound rather than clarify.

The teachings of Islam come from two primary sources–the Qur’an which Muslims believe God revealed to Muhammad, and also the Hadith of Sunnah of Muhammad which is his sayings and so forth narrated by his companions and their followers. Any further “teachings” are pretty much scholarly interpretations of these two sources.

So to answer what Islam teaches about Jesus, we start with what the Qur’an teaches. And the Qur’an talks about Jesus by name (calling him Isa actually.) And it calls Jesus Ibn Maryam, the son of Mary. And it calls Jesus “Al-Maseeh” which is the Arabic equivalent of the word “Messiah.”

So the Qur’an refers to Jesus in basically these three ways: by name (Isa/Jesus), by his lineage (Ibn Maryam), and by title (Al-Maseeh.) It’s not correct to say that “Christ” is a name and not a title, it’s clearly a title.

Now, in neither the Qur’an nor any Hadith literature that I’m aware of is there an exposition of the term “Messiah.” It falls under the category of Arabic language, though, so you’d want to ask an expert in that about the meaning of the word. And I would imagine you would find the same thing as you’d find with Hebrew scholars, basically that it means “anointed.”
 
Sister_Amy said:
I’ll try to answer. Especially since Rueben and inJESUS seem poised to confound rather than clarify.

The teachings of Islam come from two primary sources–the Qur’an which Muslims believe God revealed to Muhammad, and also the Hadith of Sunnah of Muhammad which is his sayings and so forth narrated by his companions and their followers. Any further “teachings” are pretty much scholarly interpretations of these two sources.

So to answer what Islam teaches about Jesus, we start with what the Qur’an teaches. And the Qur’an talks about Jesus by name (calling him Isa actually.) And it calls Jesus Ibn Maryam, the son of Mary. And it calls Jesus “Al-Maseeh” which is the Arabic equivalent of the word “Messiah.”

So the Qur’an refers to Jesus in basically these three ways: by name (Isa/Jesus), by his lineage (Ibn Maryam), and by title (Al-Maseeh.) It’s not correct to say that “Christ” is a name and not a title, it’s clearly a title.

Now, in neither the Qur’an nor any Hadith literature that I’m aware of is there an exposition of the term “Messiah.” It falls under the category of Arabic language, though, so you’d want to ask an expert in that about the meaning of the word. And I would imagine you would find the same thing as you’d find with Hebrew scholars, basically that it means “anointed.”
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So, would you agree that the Qur’an does not explain what he was anointed to do?
 
ralphinal said:
So, would you agree that the Qur’an does not explain what he was anointed to do?
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I wouldn’t agree with that, but not because I have evidence to the contrary. I haven’t studied the Qur’an that deeply in that direction. It might explain things–as might hadith literature, and I’m simply not aware of the explanation.

So no, I wouldn’t agree, sorry.
 
"Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;
Surah 3 aya 45 (Yusuf Ali translation)

Other translators put “Messiah” in place of “Christ.” But here is Ibn Kathir’s commentary on the verse:

"(His name will be Al-Masih, Isa, the son of Maryam) and he will be known by this name in this life, especially by the believers. Isa was called "Al-Masih’’ (the Messiah) because when he touched (Mash) those afflicted with an illness, they would be healed by Allah’s leave.
Taken from: tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=3&tid=8239

Ibn Kathir was a renowned scholar and famous for his commentary but he is absolutely wrong in why Jesus is called the Messiah. Apparently he tried to understand the Title through it’s possible Arabic root.
 
Sister_Amy said:
I wouldn’t agree with that, but not because I have evidence to the contrary. I haven’t studied the Qur’an that deeply in that direction. It might explain things–as might hadith literature, and I’m simply not aware of the explanation.

So no, I wouldn’t agree, sorry.
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Fair enough
 
Eucharisted said:
Muslims:

What dose Islam teach about the Christ? What dose “Messiah” mean in Islam?

I’m not asking you what the Bible teaches, or what we Christians teach, but what you believe Christ/Messiah means.

I look forward to your answers. 🙂
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Oh boy, did you ever step in it. My vocation of the past twenty years is historic-redactive analysis and teaching. That is to say that I study the linguistic and socieo-anthropological origins of scripture and other ancient writings and their historic application. You’ve opened a perenial can of worms because you are dealing with the onthic mythology of peoples, that is their justification for their own social existance, not just theology. Fasten your seat belt. You’ve called all the zelots down from the hills. In short; the Ingeal of Jesus in the Quran identifies Him as the greatest of all the prophets, and supposidly containes the true corrective to the Christian Bible. It bluntly denies His divinity, or rather puts the denial on His lips, and names Muhamad as the last, or “Cap of the Prophets.” Jesus is supposed to return on the last day to call all Musalems to Mecca to be carried up into heaven. Most of what is in the Quran is derived from appcrophical sources including the Gospel of Thomas, which were rejected by the Church early on but remained in use in North Africa. In his youth Muhamad (Peace be Upon Him) was raised by his merchant uncle in Mecca, his father having died just before his birth. As a lad he served as a guard on the trading caravans which routeenly saught shelter for the night in the fortefied monestaries of these appostate quasi-Christian sects. Here Muhamad soaked up all this folk law and later incorporated it into his writings. If I sound blunt, I have been in formal, scholarly Christian - Musalem dialog for years. These are the rules of the game as they dictate them.🤷
 
ralphinal said:
Based on that, can I assume that the Qur’an and the ahadith do not explain what it means?
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i think you are correct because on that site, a man asked from Quran and sunna but the answer was from the Bible.
 
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