Metaphyiscally how is Christ present in the Eucharist

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Yes, that sums up the difference very nicely I think.

No, I don’t think so. The possibility of circumscriptive multilocation would apply to things like the ‘bilocation’ reported of some Saints (like Padre Pio), where the individual is (allegedly) physically present - in exactly the same mode with his own proper accidents/appearance - in more than one location at one time. I don’t know the texts you’re referring to, but I don’t think Scotus or anybody else would have been suggesting this kind of thing could apply to the Eucharist.

You open up some very fundamental metaphysical issues with this kind of question. But no; God’s omnipresence does not mean that he is identical to everything that he is present to, although all of creation does reflect/express, in millions of different ways, the infinite nature of the creator. But the being of Jesus, who is God and man, means that the infinite nature has been joined to a finite nature, and with that finite nature comes a proper location and proper accidental appearances which are also finite, that is, not omnipresent - and these finite attributes that are taken on through the incarnation do not pertain to the divine nature as such, although they have been hypostatically joined to it in the person of Christ.

God bless.
Betterave,

You last paragraph was very informative to me. I am looking forward to studying metaphysics as soon as I work through through the rest of the philosophy books by D.Q. McInerny.

I can see where you are coming from and do agree with it.

The comment that I said that Scotus and them supported the possibility of… came from the Dogma book. I do wonder where he got the source of that statement from.

Thanks for your response and your posts. I have learned a great deal about the Eucharist in reading these. God bless.
 
This is probably not related but it shows how material objects can change their nature:
In the hospital MRI (Magnet Resonance Imaging) the nuclear spins {mainly of hydrogen) are changed in direction and then relaxed. The radio frequency signal resulting from this fall- back in energy level, is then detected for each point of the body scan, and used as the intensity of the scanned image. The patient feels nothing and no clinical tests are positive while the image is being formed. Related images can form for any object eg. a stone.
Donald
Donald Parsons MB.BS (MD), PhD
 
This is probably not related but it shows how material objects can change their nature:
In the hospital MRI (Magnet Resonance Imaging) the nuclear spins {mainly of hydrogen) are changed in direction and then relaxed. The radio frequency signal resulting from this fall- back in energy level, is then detected for each point of the body scan, and used as the intensity of the scanned image. The patient feels nothing and no clinical tests are positive while the image is being formed. Related images can form for any object eg. a stone.
Donald
Donald Parsons MB.BS (MD), PhD
Donald,

First of all, welcome to the CAF. Hope you enjoy your stay here.

Good example, but remember the bread and wine do not change by themselves, it is the Divine Power that changes them into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ. They look to be bread and wine, but are no longer bread and wine, just have the appearances.

God bless.
 
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