Method of Receiving Holy Communion?

[Dan_Daly]

In the past, when people had nothing much to do, it might have worked just fine. But that was then. This is now. We live in 2011, not 1957. I fear that nowadays in the U.S., busy Americans would choose to skip Mass rather than give up their precious and hard-to-come-by family time. I’m sorry, I know this sounds dreadful to those who are devoted and who consider Mass the pinnacle of their lives. But we have to remember that everyone is at a different place in their journey to heaven, and the Church is here to take care of those who are ill, not well. Christ died for all, not just those who love Him supremely.

You are completely correct…that does sound dreadful

Particularly the first part- people in the past had nothing to do? I’m sure that would have been news to them.

I would say that modern Americans spend more time doing…nothing…than pretty much any other society in history. Of course I consider, television, as a general rule, a total waste of time and a spiritual danger, so I include almost all the hours spent watching it in the “doing nothing” catergory.

I have no problem talking about mundane things like toilet paper. That is important. As they say- amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. I do not dismiss your points about parking, fatigue, upkeep, and resupply. Those are real issues. However, I would argue that there are other ways to address them. I can’t speak to the specific circumstances of a parish I’m not a member of, but just with the problem of parking a few possible solutions spring to mind:
-carpools
-build more parking
-contract other facilities for use of their lots.
-paint lines (in the case of an unlined lot, actually marking out spaces for people to park in can save a lot of room)

Again, that is not an exhaustive list, and not all of those ideas would work in every case. My point is that there is more than one way to skin a cat, and pushing people through the communion line as quickly as possible is not the only answer to schedule difficulties.

Maybe the music ministry could only sing 1 verse instead of 2?

We do need more priests. St. John Bosco estimated that 1 in 3 men had a vocation to the priesthood or religious life. As a Church we must do much better in encouraging those men and helping them follow that vocation.

Increasing reverance towards the most holy Eucharist would go a long way towards making that happen I think. It would also be a boon to all those called to married and single life as well- and religious sisters!

Pax and God Bless.

 

[ElToro]

As I said, one priest can distribute communion to everyone. There is no requirement to offer the chalice to everyone.

Also, if the chalice is not offered, those who receive still receive the Precious Blood, as the host is the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ. Just as, if you only received from the Chalice, you receive the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ.

**So having more than one person distributing Holy Communion is not a requirement. **
Pax and God Bless.

It certainly is if the choice is made to distribute communion under both species with the Precious Blood via the chalice…

 

[ElToro]

You are right in your previous post, that if only one priest distributed Holy Communion, it would take longer.

The problem with that is for large parishes like ours that have six Masses on Sunday morning (two more on Saturday evening, and one on Sunday evening). The Masses last one hour, and there is a half hour between each Mass for the purpose of allowing the parking lot to clear out (we are in the middle of the city on one of the busiest streets in the city), and to fill up again with cars filled with people attending the next Mass. This half-hour is not too long–in fact, at times, it would be nice if there were more time, because it truly does take a long time for a thousand or so cars to clear out and be replaced with a thousand new cars…

So using that formula you have Masses from something like 6:00-2:30, 7:00-3:30, or 8:00-4:30? then you have an evening Mass? Why not allow a full hour between Masses which would equate to: 6:00-5:00, 7:00-6:00 or 8:00-7:00. If you parish is actually that busy I doubt your first Mass is at 08:00 – if it is, it should be at 07:00 which means your evening Mass could start at 7pm. In my parish it took a new pastor to show us that Mass start times are not chiseled in stone. Now we have a full hour between Masses and the excuses are GONE.

In the past, when people had nothing much to do, it might have worked just fine. But that was then. This is now. We live in 2011, not 1957. I fear that nowadays in the U.S., busy Americans would choose to skip Mass rather than give up their precious and hard-to-come-by family time. I’m sorry, I know this sounds dreadful to those who are devoted and who consider Mass the pinnacle of their lives. But we have to remember that everyone is at a different place in their journey to heaven, and the Church is here to take care of those who are ill, not well. Christ died for all, not just those who love Him supremely. .

What’s more precious then a family at Mass together? I think slowing down the communion process (CERTAINLY at my parish) would be a MOST POSITIVE thing.

I also have a question about whether the older, more infirm priests would be physically able to distribute Holy Communion to over a thousand people at two Masses on Sunday. I think this would be physically painful for them. So many dioceses have elderly priests who are still helping out by saying Masses at parishes who don’t have enough priests, and I would hate to see these priests forced to stop doing this because of the physical demands of the task of distributing Holy Communion.

What we have to remember is that even if it is not our personal preference, Holy Mother Church allows priests to utilize EMsHC to help in the Masses. If Holy Mother Church finds to no fault in this, who are we to question it or worse, criticize it? And additionally, who are we to question the priest’s management, as long as he is not committing sin? Whenever we question our priests, it seems to me that this contributes to a climate in which we question the Church and the Lord Himself. We should submit and be docile, for as the Lord says, those who love Him obey Him.

This is an interesting thread. We use a total of nine (9) individuals to distribute holy communion at my parish. At the very same parish as a kid we used one (1.) While more people went to Mass back then, far fewer received and it did take a very long time and it was only under one species.

 

[Petergee]

Communion patens rarely work. They often seem to get in the way more than anything. To say however that dropping a Host would “not be a problem” as long as there is a communion paten is just wrong.

OK then, it would be much less of a problem. And regardless of whether you think Communion plates (a different thing from a paten) often “work”, it is a fact that the Church commands their use. (If you’ve seen people try to use a paten as a Communion plate, I’m not surprised that it wasn’t very effective.)

 

[ElToro]

OK then, it would be much less of a problem. And regardless of whether you think Communion plates (a different thing from a paten) often “work”, it is a fact that the Church commands their use. (If you’ve seen people try to use a paten as a Communion plate, I’m not surprised that it wasn’t very effective.)

We don’t have “communion plates” around here (USA.) I’m not even sure what they are? Communion patens are simply a paten that is a bit larger, often with 1 or 2 handles or they are mounted to a short pole – making their value even less in terms of keeping the Blessed Sacrament from hitting the ground.

 

[TimothyH]

Ach so… genau das, was von der Kirche ausdrücklich verboten ist, wollen Sie doch haben.
Mein Ratschlag: hören Sie doch auf mit dem trollen der Foren.

Und noch was… Sie sind doch nicht würdig: “Herr, ich bin nicht würdig, dass Du eingehst unter mein Dach, usw…”

Wow, that’s exactly what I was thinking!

-Tim-

 

[oneGODoneCHURCH]

In the past, when people had nothing much to do, it might have worked just fine. But that was then. This is now. We live in 2011, not 1957. I fear that nowadays in the U.S., busy Americans would choose to skip Mass rather than give up their precious and hard-to-come-by family time. .

You mean back when there were fewer resturants and most every one went home and cooked. Before when the entire dinner was made from scratch, the the average family size was larger. back when the clothes were not washed and and dried by machines nor were the dishes. yeah they had a lot more time back then, a lot less to do.

 

[Cat]

I disagree that people were busier in the past than they are now.

In our family, no work was done on Sunday other than the basic chores of life (milking cows, feeding children), etc. We were Protestant, and my father didn’t even attend church with the rest of us. But he observed the Sunday rest, and spent his Sunday lying around the house napping. If he even tried to mow the lawn or build something out in the garage, my mother would look sternly at him, and that was the end of chores.

Once we were home from church, we ate a roast beef/baked potato dinner, which my mother fixed by popping the roast and spuds into the oven before leaving for church. Not exactly a lot of work. No seasonings to speak of, because back then, people cooked with salf and pepper and that was pretty much it. I remember the first time she ever tried Lawry’s Seasoned Salt–the whole family was thrilled with this “new-fangled invention!” Food was a lot simpler than, and that’s one reason we didn’t get fat.

After we ate our roast beef, we would pile into the car and go visiting–all those 2nd and 3rd cousins. We would spend about a half hour at each place and then drive on.

Finally, we would come home, my dad would nap some more, we would eat cold RB sandwiches, and my brother and I would sit in front of the TV and watch Lassie and Wonderful World of Disney.

That was our big, busy Sunday.

Nowadays, we spend Sunday catching up on all the work that we didn’t have time to do the rest of the week or on Saturday. We spend a couple of hours doing email and correspondence, and then we start the cleaning and yard chores, and do laundry, and I’ll usually plan menus, shop, and cook a couple of meals for the coming week so we don’t have to go out. We try to get to the gym for a workout.

OR–when the kids were home, we were at skating competitions.

OR–if you are my older daughter, you are working.

OR–I work at the hospital every third weekend, and for many years, my husband was on call every third weekend, and he spent his entire weekend working and being sleep-deprived.

I’m not trying to be a smart-aleck here. What I’m trying to get across is that many many families are caught up in schedule that makes Sunday as busy as the rest of the week. It’s easy to say, “Well, just stop doing that.”

But c’mon now, honestly–do you really, truly think that’s going to happen? Really?

I don’t think it will. And I think that those of you who think it should happen–well, I think you’re being unrealistic. You might be right, but very few pepole will go along with your thinking, so what good is being right? It’s better to accept reality.

And thankfully, the Church IS realistic, and they realize that people will stay busy, and they try to allow for that in their liturgy and I’m grateful.

 

[oneGODoneCHURCH]

I disagree that people were busier in the past than they are now.

In our family, no work was done on Sunday other than the basic chores of life (milking cows, feeding children), etc. We were Protestant, and my father didn’t even attend church with the rest of us. But he observed the Sunday rest, and spent his Sunday lying around the house napping. If he even tried to mow the lawn or build something out in the garage, my mother would look sternly at him, and that was the end of chores.

Once we were home from church, we ate a roast beef/baked potato dinner, which my mother fixed by popping the roast and spuds into the oven before leaving for church. Not exactly a lot of work. No seasonings to speak of, because back then, people cooked with salf and pepper and that was pretty much it. I remember the first time she ever tried Lawry’s Seasoned Salt–the whole family was thrilled with this “new-fangled invention!” Food was a lot simpler than, and that’s one reason we didn’t get fat.

After we ate our roast beef, we would pile into the car and go visiting–all those 2nd and 3rd cousins. We would spend about a half hour at each place and then drive on.

Finally, we would come home, my dad would nap some more, we would eat cold RB sandwiches, and my brother and I would sit in front of the TV and watch Lassie and Wonderful World of Disney.

That was our big, busy Sunday.

Nowadays, we spend Sunday catching up on all the work that we didn’t have time to do the rest of the week or on Saturday. We spend a couple of hours doing email and correspondence, and then we start the cleaning and yard chores, and do laundry, and I’ll usually plan menus, shop, and cook a couple of meals for the coming week so we don’t have to go out. We try to get to the gym for a workout.

OR–when the kids were home, we were at skating competitions.

OR–if you are my older daughter, you are working.

OR–I work at the hospital every third weekend, and for many years, my husband was on call every third weekend, and he spent his entire weekend working and being sleep-deprived.

I’m not trying to be a smart-aleck here. What I’m trying to get across is that many many families are caught up in schedule that makes Sunday as busy as the rest of the week. It’s easy to say, “Well, just stop doing that.”

But c’mon now, honestly–do you really, truly think that’s going to happen? Really?

I don’t think it will. And I think that those of you who think it should happen–well, I think you’re being unrealistic. You might be right, but very few pepole will go along with your thinking, so what good is being right? It’s better to accept reality.

And thankfully, the Church IS realistic, and they realize that people will stay busy, and they try to allow for that in their liturgy and I’m grateful.

your right it won’t change till people decide to change it.

 

[Cat]

your right it won’t change till people decide to change it.

Do you think people will change?

 

[Dan_Daly]

Nowadays, we spend Sunday catching up on all the work that we didn’t have time to do the rest of the week or on Saturday. We spend a couple of hours doing email and correspondence, and then we start the cleaning and yard chores, and do laundry, and I’ll usually plan menus, shop, and cook a couple of meals for the coming week so we don’t have to go out. We try to get to the gym for a workout.

OR–when the kids were home, we were at skating competitions.

OR–if you are my older daughter, you are working.

OR–I work at the hospital every third weekend, and for many years, my husband was on call every third weekend, and he spent his entire weekend working and being sleep-deprived.

I’m not trying to be a smart-aleck here. What I’m trying to get across is that many many families are caught up in schedule that makes Sunday as busy as the rest of the week. It’s easy to say, “Well, just stop doing that.”

But c’mon now, honestly–do you really, truly think that’s going to happen? Really?

I don’t think it will. And I think that those of you who think it should happen–well, I think you’re being unrealistic. You might be right, but very few pepole will go along with your thinking, so what good is being right? It’s better to accept reality.

What good is doing (and not doing) the right things on Sunday?

Going to heaven.

Performing unnecessary servile work on Sundays is sinful. You even say you know that is correct, so it becomes a willful, conscious act if you still choose to do so.

I’m not attacking you personally. I’ve struggled with this most of my life as well. Our Church has fallen almost entirely silent on the subject of what you should be doing on Sundays beyond going to Mass. Encouraging others to do unneeded servile work on Sundays is also sinful, so if the intention in how you plan out the Mass schedule, is to allow people to get out of Church quickly and go do things they are not supposed to do I think that would be shaky theological ground.

Pax.

 

[At_Trent]

Take the hint people

Whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the Body and of the Blood of the Lord… For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the Body of the Lord" - 1 Corinthians 11:27,28

Pope Benedict to Catholics:
Kneel and Receive on the Tongue Only

Pope Benedict XVI does not want the faithful receiving Communion in their hand nor does he want them standing to receive Christ in the Blessed Sacrament. According to Vatican liturgist, Monsignor Guido Marini, the pope is trying to set the stage for the whole church as to the proper norm for receiving Communion for which reason communicants at his papal Masses are now asked to kneel and receive on the tongue.

The Holy Father’s reasoning is simple: “We Christians kneel before the Blessed Sacrament because, therein, we know and believe to be the presence of the One True God.” (May 22, 2008)

According to the pope the entire Church should kneel in adoration before God in the Eucharist. “Kneeling in adoration before the Eucharist is the most valid and radical remedy against the idolatries of yesterday and today” (May 22, 2008)

The pope’s action is in accord with the Church’s 2000 year tradition and is being done in order to foster a renewed love and respect for the Eucharist which presently is being mocked and treated with contempt. The various trends and innovations of our time (guitar liturgy, altar girls, lay ministers, Communion in the hand) have worked together to destroy our regard for the Eucharist, thus advancing the spiritual death of the church. After all, the Eucharist is the very life and heartbeat of the Mystical Body around which the entire Church must revolve.

Kneeling also coincides with the Church’s centuries old ordinance that only the consecrated hands of a priest touch the Body of Christ in Holy Communion. “To priests alone has been given power to consecrate and administer to the faithful, the Holy Eucharist.” (Council of Trent) This teaching is beautifully expressed by St. Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologica: “Because out of reverence towards this sacrament, nothing touches it, but what is consecrated; hence the corporal and the chalice are consecrated, and likewise the priest’s hands, for touching this sacrament.”

It is for reason that Pope Paul VI in his May 1969 pastoral letter to the world’s bishops reaffirmed the Church’s teaching on the reception of Communion, stating that: “This method on the tongue must be retained.” (Memoriale Domini) This came in response to the bishops of Holland who started Communion in the hand in defiance of the centuries old decree from the Council of Rouen (650 A.D.) where this practice was condemned as sacrilegious. “Do not put the Eucharist in the hands of any layperson, but only in their mouths.” To date this prohibition has never been overturned legally.

Today Communion in the hand is carried on illegally and has become a major tool of the enemy to destory the Faith throughout the world. For this practice serves no other purpose than to warp our conception of Jesus Christ and nourish a contempt for the sacred mysteries. It’s no wonder St. Basil referred to Communion in the hand as “a grave fault.”

That is to say, Communion in the hand is not tied with Catholic tradition. This practice was first introduced to the Church by the heretical Arians of the 4th century as a means of expressing their belief that Christ was not divine. Unfortunately, it has served to express the same in our time and has been at the very heart of the present heresy and desecration that is rampant throughout the universal Church. If we have ‘abuse’ problems today it is because we’re abusing the Sacrament - it’s backfiring on us!

Thanks to Communion in the hand, members of satanic cults are now given easy access to come into the Church and take the Host so that they bring it back to their covens where it is abused and brutalized in the ritualistic Black Mass to Satan. They crush the Host under their shoes as a mockery to the living God, and we assist it with our casual practice? Amongst themselves the satanists declare that Communion in the hand is the greatest thing that ever happened to them, and we do nothing to stop it?

Hence, the Holy Father is doing his part to try to purge the Church of abuse and we as members of Christ are called upon to assist him. For your encouragement we include the following quotation from Cardinal Llovera, the new prefect for the Vatican’s Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments speaking to Life Site News on July 22, 2009: “It is the mission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Sacraments to work to promote Pope Benedict’s emphasis on the traditional practices of liturgy, such as reception of Communion on the tongue while kneeling.”

Also worth considering is the recent decree from Cardinal Caffarra, the Archbishop of Bologna Italy, forbidding the practice of Communion in the hand: “Many cases of profanation of the Eucharist have occurred, profiting by the possibility to receive the consecrated Bread on one’s palm of the hand… Considering the frequency in which cases of irreverent behavior in the act of receiving the Eucharist have been reported, we dispose that starting from today in the Metropolitan Church of St. Peter, in the Basilica of St. Petronius and in the Shrine of the Holy Virgin of St. Luke in Bologna the faithful are to receive the consecrated Bread only from the hands of the Minister directly on the tongue.” (from his decree on the reception of the Eucharist, issued April 27, 2009)
newsblaze.com/story/20090801065749zzzz.nb/topstory.html

 

[At_Trent]

Aide: Pope Prefers Communion on Tongue

Monsignor Marini Comments on Papal Preference

VATICAN CITY, JUNE 26, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI would prefer to distribute communion on the tongue and to people who are kneeling, according to the master of papal liturgical ceremonies.

L’Osservatore Romano noted in an interview with Monsignor Guido Marini, published Wednesday, that the Pope distributed Communion to individuals who knelt and received the host on their tongues during his apostolic trip last week to Brindisi in Southern Italy.

When asked if this could become common practice, the monsignor replied, “I believe so.”

“It is necessary not to forget,” he added, “that the distribution of Communion on the hand continues to remain, from the juridical standpoint, an exception (indult) to the universal law, conceded by the Holy See to those bishops’ conferences who have requested it.”

“The form used by Benedict XVI tends to underline the force of the valid norm for the entire Church,” clarified Monsignor Marini.

The master of papal liturgical ceremonies said receiving Communion on the tongue, “without taking anything away from the other [form], better highlights the truth of the real presence in the Eucharist, helps the devotion of the faithful, and introduces more easily the sense of mystery. Aspects which, in our times, pastorally speaking, it is urgent to highlight and recover.”

Pre and post

To those who accuse Benedict XVI of wanting to return the Church to the way it was before the Second Vatican Council, the master of papal liturgical ceremonies explained that “terms such as ‘preconciliar’ and ‘postconciliar’ seem to me to belong to a manner of speaking that is outdated, and if they are used with the objective of indicating a discontinuity in the path of the Church, I consider them to be wrong and typical of very reductive ideological viewpoints.”

“There are ‘old things’ and ‘new things’ that belong to the treasure of the Church of all times, and as such they should be considered,” added Monsignor Marini.

“Not all that is new is true, and neither is all that is old,” he added. "The truth is in both the old and the new, and it is to the truth that we should tend without prejudice.

“The Church lives according to this law of continuity, in virtue of which it acknowledges a development rooted in Tradition.”

The monsignor continued: “What is important is that everything be pointed toward a liturgical celebration that is truly the celebration of the sacred mystery, of the Lord crucified and resurrected, which makes itself present in the Church – re-presenting the mystery of salvation – and calling us, according to the logic of an authentic and active participation, to share to the end in [Christ’s] life, which is a life of donation, of love for the Father and for his brothers and sisters, a life of holiness.”
zenit.org/article-23028?l=english

 

[ConstantineTG]

Pope Benedict to Catholics:
Kneel and Receive on the Tongue Only

The Pope did not say this. In fact he says something else in his book, “Light of the World”. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

 

[Pfaffenhoffen]

The Pope did not say this. In fact he says something else in his book, “Light of the World”. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Well, popes hesitate. Pope John Paul II was very conservative but very open. To him, the Eucharist was to be given in the tongue. I remember that in Paris (pardon, I may miss the place but I am almost sure it was in Paris), a little kid put his hands forward. He hesitated a second and put the host on his hand.
I miss him…

 

[paperwight66]

The Pope did not say this. In fact he says something else in his book, “Light of the World”. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Indeed.

Here we go again.

To save my typing the quotes yet again, see thread ‘Authoritative statement on Communion while kneeling’ in this same Liturgy and Sacraments forum, last added to yesterday.

A poster queried the quotes, which came from a book review, saying she wanted to read the complete originals in her own copy of ‘Light of the World’ as they would be more trustworthy. We are waiting to read her fuller versions to see if they are different.

 

[ElToro]

Take the hint people

Whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the Body and of the Blood of the Lord… For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the Body of the Lord" - 1 Corinthians 11:27,28

Pope Benedict to Catholics:
Kneel and Receive on the Tongue Only

Pope Benedict XVI does not want the faithful receiving Communion in their hand nor does he want them standing to receive Christ in the Blessed Sacrament. According to Vatican liturgist, Monsignor Guido Marini, the pope is trying to set the stage for the whole church as to the proper norm for receiving Communion for which reason communicants at his papal Masses are now asked to kneel and receive on the tongue.

The Holy Father’s reasoning is simple: “We Christians kneel before the Blessed Sacrament because, therein, we know and believe to be the presence of the One True God.” (May 22, 2008)

According to the pope the entire Church should kneel in adoration before God in the Eucharist. “Kneeling in adoration before the Eucharist is the most valid and radical remedy against the idolatries of yesterday and today” (May 22, 2008)

The pope’s action is in accord with the Church’s 2000 year tradition and is being done in order to foster a renewed love and respect for the Eucharist which presently is being mocked and treated with contempt. The various trends and innovations of our time (guitar liturgy, altar girls, lay ministers, Communion in the hand) have worked together to destroy our regard for the Eucharist, thus advancing the spiritual death of the church. After all, the Eucharist is the very life and heartbeat of the Mystical Body around which the entire Church must revolve.

Kneeling also coincides with the Church’s centuries old ordinance that only the consecrated hands of a priest touch the Body of Christ in Holy Communion. “To priests alone has been given power to consecrate and administer to the faithful, the Holy Eucharist.” (Council of Trent) This teaching is beautifully expressed by St. Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologica: “Because out of reverence towards this sacrament, nothing touches it, but what is consecrated; hence the corporal and the chalice are consecrated, and likewise the priest’s hands, for touching this sacrament.”

It is for reason that Pope Paul VI in his May 1969 pastoral letter to the world’s bishops reaffirmed the Church’s teaching on the reception of Communion, stating that: “This method on the tongue must be retained.” (Memoriale Domini) This came in response to the bishops of Holland who started Communion in the hand in defiance of the centuries old decree from the Council of Rouen (650 A.D.) where this practice was condemned as sacrilegious. “Do not put the Eucharist in the hands of any layperson, but only in their mouths.” To date this prohibition has never been overturned legally.

Today Communion in the hand is carried on illegally and has become a major tool of the enemy to destory the Faith throughout the world. For this practice serves no other purpose than to warp our conception of Jesus Christ and nourish a contempt for the sacred mysteries. It’s no wonder St. Basil referred to Communion in the hand as “a grave fault.”

That is to say, Communion in the hand is not tied with Catholic tradition. This practice was first introduced to the Church by the heretical Arians of the 4th century as a means of expressing their belief that Christ was not divine. Unfortunately, it has served to express the same in our time and has been at the very heart of the present heresy and desecration that is rampant throughout the universal Church. If we have ‘abuse’ problems today it is because we’re abusing the Sacrament - it’s backfiring on us!

Thanks to Communion in the hand, members of satanic cults are now given easy access to come into the Church and take the Host so that they bring it back to their covens where it is abused and brutalized in the ritualistic Black Mass to Satan. They crush the Host under their shoes as a mockery to the living God, and we assist it with our casual practice? Amongst themselves the satanists declare that Communion in the hand is the greatest thing that ever happened to them, and we do nothing to stop it?

Hence, the Holy Father is doing his part to try to purge the Church of abuse and we as members of Christ are called upon to assist him. For your encouragement we include the following quotation from Cardinal Llovera, the new prefect for the Vatican’s Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments speaking to Life Site News on July 22, 2009: “It is the mission of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Sacraments to work to promote Pope Benedict’s emphasis on the traditional practices of liturgy, such as reception of Communion on the tongue while kneeling.”

Also worth considering is the recent decree from Cardinal Caffarra, the Archbishop of Bologna Italy, forbidding the practice of Communion in the hand: “Many cases of profanation of the Eucharist have occurred, profiting by the possibility to receive the consecrated Bread on one’s palm of the hand… Considering the frequency in which cases of irreverent behavior in the act of receiving the Eucharist have been reported, we dispose that starting from today in the Metropolitan Church of St. Peter, in the Basilica of St. Petronius and in the Shrine of the Holy Virgin of St. Luke in Bologna the faithful are to receive the consecrated Bread only from the hands of the Minister directly on the tongue.” (from his decree on the reception of the Eucharist, issued April 27, 2009)
newsblaze.com/story/20090801065749zzzz.nb/topstory.html

 

[Dan_Daly]

That is to say, Communion in the hand is not tied with Catholic tradition. This practice was first introduced to the Church by the heretical Arians of the 4th century as a means of expressing their belief that Christ was not divine.

Do you have any sources you can point me to for this connection between Communion in the hand and the Arian heresy?

I’m very interested in the Arianism, and how it connects to the current assault on the Church by the modernists (among others)

Pax and God Bless.

 

[ElToro]

Do you have any sources you can point me to for this connection between Communion in the hand and the Arian heresy?

I’m very interested in the Arianism, and how it connects to the current assault on the Church by the modernists (among others)

Pax and God Bless.

I suspect the very earliest sacrificial liturgies had CIH.

 

[oneGODoneCHURCH]

Do you think people will change?

I think people can change. It takes the parnets to say no we are not going to go to these sport everts on sundays for the schools to stop scheduling the meets on sundays. you have to make the decission on what is really more important. God or ?

I will give you an example my mother thought that instead of cooking Thankgiving dinner we should just go to a resturant. I told her she was free to do that I would be cokking dinner and anyone that wanted was free to come by, but i would not be joining them at a resturant. We did not go to a resturant for thank giving. It starts with one person saying no.