Michele Bachmann: We May ‘Never See a More Godly, Biblical President’ Than Trump

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Well that’s nice of you. Pointing out that there are a range of views - etc, wouldn’t have thought of that. I have one to exchange; there are “presidents” of countries where “a range of views” regarding same, are not allowed to exist! Thank God and keep praying, the USA has the greatest Constitution. In my view, never let an opportunity go by to keep America great!
 
LeafByNiggle said:
we should expect better from our President.
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I expect a president who will appoint constitutional tradionalist SCOTUS judges. That’s what voted for and that’s what we got. If he says the “p” word a few times or something similar I am not going to wring my hands over it. Instead I will celebrate the pro-life policies being put in place.
 
And a private conversation as well. How many of us expect the most private aspects of our lives to be aired publicly? And what? A conversation, private conversation from 20 years ago?
 
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Sorry, I don’t have an interest in expanding upon your view of the Irish President, but you seem to have a need to share your speculation. There is no requirement to provide names of other countries that suffer from totalitarian regime, they are well known.
 
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LeafByNiggle:
The total disregard for the truth in the execution of his office is not excused by his appointment of Kavanaugh. Catholic teaching does not take the matter of the Truth lighly.
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That again is your opinion and again, seems sanctimonious and self-righteous.
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No, it is just objectively true. It is well known that Trump very frequently says things that are totally false. One does not need to be sanctimonious to know this.
Catholic teaching tells us to forgive…
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Then you are quite willing for forgive all the politicians that have promoted abortion rights? I don’t think so. Nor should you.
 
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Then you are quite willing for forgive all the politicians that have promoted abortion rights? I don’t think so. Nor should you.
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If Obama came out tomorrow and said “folks, I was wrong, wrong to support abortion”, yes, I’d welcome him in. Please don’t put words in my mouth.
 
The point in my voting is to vote for what is best for the country in my opinion. One candidate vs the other. Not for someone who is perfect
 
Victoria33 said:
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Then you are quite willing for forgive all the politicians that have promoted abortion rights? I don’t think so. Nor should you.
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If Obama came out tomorrow and said “folks, I was wrong, wrong to support abortion”, yes, I’d welcome him in. Please don’t put words in my mouth.
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Using that standard, I will forgive Trump when he comes out and says " I was wrong, wrong, wrong to tell all those lies."
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Using that standard, I will forgive Trump when he comes out and says " I was wrong, wrong, wrong to tell all those lies."
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So, what lies are those? And you compare the right to life issue with what you call lies?

Anyway, I have said exactly on this forum before, that if Obama became pro-life and the platform matched that ideology, I would vote for him. So, this is not an imagined scenario.

I assume too, that if we have such high standards for politicians, we should have the same high standards for ourselves and you have not supported any pro-choice candidates because if one has, we may be looking at hypocrisy.
 
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So back to the premise made by Ms. Bachmann, while discounting the criticism of the Republican and Democratic Party and candidates past and present, does anyone really believe “We man ‘Never see a more Godly, Biblical President’ than Trump”?

That seems to be quite a claim, that I certainly hope is without merit.
 
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I note, one can find articles on the last president’s lies. The thing is, is every president is accused of lying. It must come with the territory.

If Trump said there are 28,000 troops in South Korea and there are 40,000 troops, I don’t consider this some egregious lie.

He talks about the wall on the border but that is both and up and down situation. Again, I wouldn’t fault him highly on this.

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Victoria33 said:
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Using that standard, I will forgive Trump when he comes out and says " I was wrong, wrong, wrong to tell all those lies."
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So, what lies are those?
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Well, before I spend any time citing these lies, tell me if you set your mind to reject information that comes from the mainstream media? Because if you have, then there is no point to my trying to list Trump’s lies for you, because your view is perfectly protected from being corrected.
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
Well, before I spend any time citing these lies, tell me if you set your mind to reject information that comes from the mainstream media? Because if you have, then there is no point to my trying to list Trump’s lies.
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Then, who seems to project these lies are news outlets like the Washington Post and NY Times. These are not Trump friendly, that is so.
 
If it makes one happy to insult others, “cult figure”, go ahead. It shows one can not take his accomplishments and pluses head on so there is a need to rely on backhand remarks.

Cult Personality, that’s a good one.
 
He was involved in wrestling promotion, that might lend itself to comic books. Not a real big deal.

Addendum; He says things I perceive as false, that has bothered me. I think that might make him look vulnerable in say, a presidential debate. I can sympathize with leaders having to deal with lots of details.

It certainly isn’t all perfect. The direction of the country is positive. There’s plenty I don’t agree with.

General Mattis leaving, when we announced a quick withdrawal in Northern Syria, now basically nullified or compromised might be a better word.

And then, allegedly talking with the General, Haftar (spelling) of the Libyan armed forces against the government. I don’t know if I agree with that, NOR the veto on the Yemen bill to get out of the war, all of this has happened in the last 7 days.

But these are the real issues among others.
 
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Yes I haven’t read it yet but I did read Ross Douthat’s column about it and he says essentially that it proves the Michael Wolfe book to be true - which I have a hard time believing, actually but I guess I will have to read the report and decide for myself.

But it’s well established that the president has a very casual relationship with the truth, that shoukdn’t be up for debate.
 
Again…is ANYONE going to address the actual premise of Ms. Bachmann claim?

Is it, indeed likely, “We Many ‘Never See a More Godly, Biblical President’ Than Trump”?

Again, staying out of the weeds, and ignoring the temptation to defend one side and condemn the other, is ANYONE going to say Bachmann is Right, or Bachmann is Wrong?

And, the question is not, “Is Trump Godly or Biblical”, but is he the best example of righteousness our nation might ever see again as President.

I’m not sure if Trump is “Godly” or even “Biblical” (and I am assuming Ms. Bachmann is implying “Biblical” means the positive biblical attributes of a leader, like Solomon, as opposed to Jezebel), but my fervent hopes and my faith in truth and justice is that we WILL see a “more Godly, Biblical President.”!

Anyone?
 
I think we have already had about 40, and Trump is doing his best to see that there are no more. But like you, I also believe and hope we will have more.
 
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