Mike Huckabee: U.S. moving toward 'criminalization of Christianity'

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St_Francis said:
The Left (however far to the Right it stretches) wants everything to flow through the government or an entity under the government’s thumb, because they want to be God.

Now they have something to hold over the heads of Christians–that might explain the extreme push for SS"M".
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Could the US Govt be the anti-christ?
 
unstoppable_II said:
All ideas originate with academia; that’s what we pay them for.
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How can all ideas originate from academia when ideas predate the establishment of academia?

And there are many ideas that are finding more and more creditability despite the determined opposition of the academic world; acupuncture, chiropracty, LENR, and hydrinos.

If Kuhn is right, science advances in its biggest steps only at the opposition of the scientific establishment.

Where does that leave academia except as the man who rushes to the front of a crowd and announces, ‘You must be wondering why I invited all of you here.’
unstoppable_II said:
The downside is that anyone who doesn’t accept their word for something, that person is considered unenlightened. Think The Emperor’s New Clothes, about a situation where no one believes, but everyone believes that everyone else believes.
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The Academes are the ones clothing the Emperor. It is the innocent unwashed child that says the obvious.
 
ChurchSoldier said:
I agree with much of what these sentences say. It is a large reason the Evangelical Protestant churches which preach “it’s about relationship, not religion” are setting large numbers of people up to be pushed away from the faith. It is all about “them” rather than “their part in the larger mission of the church”. They are outside a body of believers and therefore isolated.

But an individual can do amazing things, particularly when they have a deep belief in the mission. We are given an example in a man named Shamgar found in Judges 3:31 “After him was Shamgar the son of Anath, who killed six hundred men of the Philistines with an ox goad; and he also delivered Israel.”. He is only mentioned one other time which actually just refers back to this passage. One man with a stick delivered Israel.👍

The second example are the Apostles, who, while generally separated from the group were on mission to spread the Good News of Jesus Christ. Obviously they changed the world.

So while the practice of the Christian Faith will certainly move to a less prominent place in our public life for a while, any given individual can make a huge difference when they make it their mission to do so.

Pax.
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Shamgar and the Apostles were led by the Holy Ghost, but our leadership is to be the Magisterium, which is inspired by the Holy Ghost.

When they decide to lead us into the face of this crisis, many problems will find solutions.

Till then the wolves will pick us off one at a time.
 
Regrettably this is modus operandi for Mike Huckabee. Sensationalism, victimization, and being just plain wrong.
 
unstoppable_II said:
All ideas originate with academia; that’s what we pay them for. The downside is that anyone who doesn’t accept their word for something, that person is considered unenlightened. Think The Emperor’s New Clothes, about a situation where no one believes, but everyone believes that everyone else believes.
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We are living this story with the current occupier of the WH. Many see his as the empty suit he is,including those that are propping him up.However,with so much invested in having the first black president succeed,no one it talking.:rolleyes:
 
RGCheek said:
Till then the wolves will pick us off one at a time.
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Not if we stand together.
Which is why I suggested the blogs I listed in my previous post.
Especially “The Next Right Step” blog run by Charlie Johnston.

~~ the phoenix
 
mikekle said:
Could the US Govt be the anti-christ?
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Who knows. I doubt most people will recognize the anti-Christ when he comes. But tongue-in-cheek - isn’t DC built on 7 hills - at least one deliberately named after a hill in Rome (Capitol Hill, home of Congress, is named after Capitoline Hill, home of the Roman Senate)? For better or worse, the US is the ideological descendant of the Roman Republic.
 
Petaro said:
Don’t know about America but it isn’t illegal to read the Bible publicly in Australia. No one cares.
That is not to say that Christian morality is not under legal threat in America. If you cannot feed the poor legally in Texas, or if you can be fined for not baking a cake your civil liberties are not under threat, they are gone.
The litigious madness that is America has not infected the rest of the West; however the aggressive gay and lesbian agenda is in our media; and is creeping into our discrimination laws. However as Australia is one of the most Godless and secular nations on the earth we do not have the aggressive Anti-Christian legal cases attempting to secure not just a separation of Church and State, but the eradication of all overt Christian worship within society that is so prevalent in the US. (I am not sure which is better… may be worthwhile having a public battle rather than the lukewarm apathy we have here.)
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Why is Australia Godless? Although I should imagine you would welcome separation of Church and state in England
 
Mulligan2 said:
Regrettably this is modus operandi for Mike Huckabee. Sensationalism, victimization, and being just plain wrong.
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You don’t see a creeping anti-clericalism, anti-religious values, anti-traditionalism in our society now? This reminds me of the proverbial frog in the pot. It seems it will take more blatant and extreme anti-religious policies for some to wake up. But at that point it will likely be too late. Some are speaking up now before its too late.

Mulligan, when a bakery can be forced to pay $135,000 for merely practicing their faith, the US is indeed moving toward criminalization of religion.

Ishii
 
100% agree with Huckabee and, as was just mentioned in another thread, Cardinal George had a remarkable quote on this subject:
“I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history.”
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I think we can all agree that Cardinal George was far from a knee jerk reactionary; prone to sensationalism and victimization.

It’s quite amazing how people can’t see what’s happening right before their eyes. History is replete with people of Faith being persecuted and it always starts the same way: In little increments that soon build steam.

I’ve no doubt whatsoever that Christians in the US will continue to be persecuted and have their rights taken away. How long until any signs of Faith that may be on your personal property will have to be removed due to some new law? Bumper stickers easily come to mind.

The cross will absolutely come to represent the new swastika in the minds of atheists and universalists; indeed, it is already being viewed as the symbol of intolerance and bigotry. It will be illegal to display one on your own property, and it will absolutely become illegal for churches to display a cross that may be viewed from public property. Spend 10sec researching the removal of visible signs of Christianity during the French Revolution to get an idea. Of course, any current or former communist nation is an easy place to look.

How long before Christians will have to register with some government office?

How long before Christians will have to start wearing a yellow cross patch on their clothes or be branded in some other way?

How long before Christianity is simply outlawed - unless it’s a particular brand that’s ‘approved’ by the State?

All of this has happened before, and not in the distant past.
 
LSZ1318 said:
100% agree with Huckabee and, as was just mentioned in another thread, Cardinal George had a remarkable quote on this subject:

I think we can all agree that Cardinal George was far from a knee jerk reactionary; prone to sensationalism and victimization.

It’s quite amazing how people can’t see what’s happening right before their eyes. History is replete with people of Faith being persecuted and it always starts the same way: In little increments that soon build steam.

I’ve no doubt whatsoever that Christians in the US will continue to be persecuted and have their rights taken away. How long until any signs of Faith that may be on your personal property will have to be removed due to some new law? Bumper stickers easily come to mind.

The cross will absolutely come to represent the new swastika in the minds of atheists and universalists; indeed, it is already being viewed as the symbol of intolerance and bigotry. It will be illegal to display one on your own property, and it will absolutely become illegal for churches to display a cross that may be viewed from public property. Spend 10sec researching the removal of visible signs of Christianity during the French Revolution to get an idea. Of course, any current or former communist nation is an easy place to look.

How long before Christians will have to register with some government office?

How long before Christians will have to start wearing a yellow cross patch on their clothes or be branded in some other way?

How long before Christianity is simply outlawed - unless it’s a particular brand that’s ‘approved’ by the State?

All of this has happened before, and not in the distant past.
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We should all do well to remember that freedom is not the rule throughout history - its the exception. Even in the world today its the exception. And yet, there are those who think that freedom (including religious freedom) will continue exactly as before without having to defend or protect it at all. If we take our freedoms for granted then we will lose them - little by little until we wake up and find we have no freedoms anymore. Also, those who don’t defend freedoms they don’t really value - such as religious freedoms - will find that the freedoms they do value - free speech, association, bear arms, etc. will also be threatened.

Ishii
 
Jeanne_S said:
We are living this story with the current occupier of the WH. Many see his as the empty suit he is,including those that are propping him up.However,with so much invested in having the first black president succeed,no one it talking.:rolleyes:
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“Succeed” is one of those words like “hope and change”: the listener can plug any definition he wants into them.
 
LSZ1318 said:
100% agree with Huckabee and, as was just mentioned in another thread, Cardinal George had a remarkable quote on this subject:

I think we can all agree that Cardinal George was far from a knee jerk reactionary; prone to sensationalism and victimization.

It’s quite amazing how people can’t see what’s happening right before their eyes. History is replete with people of Faith being persecuted and it always starts the same way: In little increments that soon build steam.

I’ve no doubt whatsoever that Christians in the US will continue to be persecuted and have their rights taken away. How long until any signs of Faith that may be on your personal property will have to be removed due to some new law? Bumper stickers easily come to mind.

The cross will absolutely come to represent the new swastika in the minds of atheists and universalists; indeed, it is already being viewed as the symbol of intolerance and bigotry. It will be illegal to display one on your own property, and it will absolutely become illegal for churches to display a cross that may be viewed from public property. Spend 10sec researching the removal of visible signs of Christianity during the French Revolution to get an idea. Of course, any current or former communist nation is an easy place to look.

How long before Christians will have to register with some government office?

How long before Christians will have to start wearing a yellow cross patch on their clothes or be branded in some other way?

How long before Christianity is simply outlawed - unless it’s a particular brand that’s ‘approved’ by the State?

All of this has happened before, and not in the distant past.
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Once America falls, there is no place left to defect to.
 
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LSZ1318 said:
100% agree with Huckabee and, as was just mentioned in another thread, Cardinal George had a remarkable quote on this subject:

I think we can all agree that Cardinal George was far from a knee jerk reactionary; prone to sensationalism and victimization.

It’s quite amazing how people can’t see what’s happening right before their eyes. History is replete with people of Faith being persecuted and it always starts the same way: In little increments that soon build steam.

I’ve no doubt whatsoever that Christians in the US will continue to be persecuted and have their rights taken away. How long until any signs of Faith that may be on your personal property will have to be removed due to some new law? Bumper stickers easily come to mind.

The cross will absolutely come to represent the new swastika in the minds of atheists and universalists; indeed, it is already being viewed as the symbol of intolerance and bigotry. It will be illegal to display one on your own property, and it will absolutely become illegal for churches to display a cross that may be viewed from public property. Spend 10sec researching the removal of visible signs of Christianity during the French Revolution to get an idea. Of course, any current or former communist nation is an easy place to look.

How long before Christians will have to register with some government office?

How long before Christians will have to start wearing a yellow cross patch on their clothes or be branded in some other way?

How long before Christianity is simply outlawed - unless it’s a particular brand that’s ‘approved’ by the State?

All of this has happened before, and not in the distant past.
Click to expand...
 
ishii said:
We should all do well to remember that freedom is not the rule throughout history - its the exception. Even in the world today its the exception. And yet, there are those who think that freedom (including religious freedom) will continue exactly as before without having to defend or protect it at all. If we take our freedoms for granted then we will lose them - little by little until we wake up and find we have no freedoms anymore. Also, those who don’t defend freedoms they don’t really value - such as religious freedoms - will find that the freedoms they do value - free speech, association, bear arms, etc. will also be threatened.

Ishii
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Thats because they are very slowly and methodically changing everything, but the manner in which its being done, most people dont even notice it,or even worse, they are fooled into thinking these new regulations are actually good and will lead to reduced crime, I think alot of people presumed it would be some very sudden and quick change, so everyone would be able to notice it and fight back, but have to remember satan and those helping him, are very intelligent, of course they are going to try and fool people versus having to fight them…its much easier for them in the long run, but most of these ignorant people wont realize they have lost their soul until its too late.
 
It is a very wise policy for Americans to continue to cling to their guns and their religion.

It is no accident that this is what caused Obama so much consternation.
 
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