Milk: Perfect Food or Toxic Soup? Part 1

[CPA2]

Cane and beet sugar are natural. They have been around 100’s of years. Now hawabout a response on my history lesson!

I chew on sugar cane. That is a far cry from white sugar (sucrose)! Honey has never been processed and pure maple syrup has only been boiled. Man should not play with his food.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I chew on sugar cane. That is a far cry from white sugar (sucrose)! Honey has never been processed and pure maple syrup has only been boiled. Man should not play with his food.

Honey is an excellent sweetener. Back when I had bees for a hobby, I particularly liked using dark fall honey as sweetener for apple pie. Incredibly good, and you could eat as much as you wanted without the slightest peril of indigestion! I actually preferred fall honey just to eat. Dark as molasses, and without that “tingle” spring honey has, though spring honey is prettier. My kids and I would eat fall honey by the spoonful.

I know, a bit off topic.

Back to the salmonella milk. The woman knew where she bought it. Got the health dept involved and they tested the milk in the Natural Foods store. Salmonella. Asked her where she got it. She told them. Went to the farm and found Salmonella there. Whether off the goat or the milk, I don’t know.

But having said that, it just amazes me that they didn’t pasturize it themselves. There was a pretty serious liability in that case because the child was barely pulled back from renal failure and might develop renal failure in his teen years, or so I was told.

 

[Zatzat]

Man should not play with his food.

Sorry, but small family farms and everyone keeping chickens in their backyards won’t provide for all 6.5 billion people on earth.

So yes, man…please, continue to play with food. Here is but one benefit;

csa.com/discoveryguides/gmfood/overview.php

Drought tolerance/salinity tolerance

As the world population grows and more land is utilized for housing instead of food production, farmers will need to grow crops in locations previously unsuited for plant cultivation. Creating plants that can withstand long periods of drought or high salt content in soil and groundwater will help people to grow crops in formerly inhospitable places

 

[aspawloski4th]

I chew on sugar cane. That is a far cry from white sugar (sucrose)! Honey has never been processed and pure maple syrup has only been boiled. Man should not play with his food.

Honey is well known for botulism. Define playing with food. Should just eat a wheat plant instead of making bread out of it? Being a vegan you are not getting any vitamin B12 and not enough vitamin D. Trandions, even those having to with diet usually comeabout for a good reason.

 

[aspawloski4th]

I am following the vegan diet of this pastor: hacres.com/home

And eat mainly stuff I can’t stand the taste of? I’d rather be dead.

 

[markbrumbaugh]

I chew on sugar cane. That is a far cry from white sugar (sucrose)! Honey has never been processed and pure maple syrup has only been boiled. Man should not play with his food.

Honey???

Reminds me of an Archie Bunker episode. Edith serves Archie some tongue. He says, what is this Edit? Its tongue Archie. Archie says…I’m not eating anything that comes out of cows mouth…Edith, go fix me some eggs.

CPA2…try to get a life.

 

[jen_fla]

My question to the OP would be, if we’re not supposed to drink milk, what ought we to be drinking instead?

Beer? Wine? Water?
Coffee? Tea? Kool-aid?
Diet Coke? Lemonade?
The OP should propose a beverage of choice, and then we can go through
and look at the health risks of whatever the particular drink is.

:coffeeread: :compcoff:

organic almond milk! and then yes, org beer and wine will do just fine.

 

[CPA2]

Honey???

Reminds me of an Archie Bunker episode. Edith serves Archie some tongue. He says, what is this Edit? Its tongue Archie. Archie says…I’m not eating anything that comes out of cows mouth…Edith, go fix me some eggs.

CPA2…try to get a life.

Let the masses eat high fructose corn syrup. I am a connoisseur of honey! The ancients thought that honey was the nectar of the gods. There are 1,200 distinct flavors of honey and I am trying all of them. I use honey in baking and in everything else.

There is not enough honey produced in the United States to supply everyone with honey. Enjoy your high fructose corn syrup and corn syrup. It is cheap in more ways than one.

 

[CPA2]

organic almond milk! and then yes, org beer and wine will do just fine.

I use almond milk every day. I buy it at Wal-Mart. I also make my own almond milk.

 

[CPA2]

And eat mainly stuff I can’t stand the taste of? I’d rather be dead.

Beware of what you ask for. We do not always die a quick death. Some of us die a slow, painful death because of our bad eating habits. We dig our grave with our teeth.

I love good food! I am a connoisseur of great food. **All that I ask is that food taste good! **Vegan food tastes great! I love wheat germ burgers, vegan pizza, etc. When my son was in high school, he piled his plate so high with vegan food that it looked like a volcano!

 

[CPA2]

Honey is an excellent sweetener. Back when I had bees for a hobby, I particularly liked using dark fall honey as sweetener for apple pie. Incredibly good, and you could eat as much as you wanted without the slightest peril of indigestion! I actually preferred fall honey just to eat. Dark as molasses, and without that “tingle” spring honey has, though spring honey is prettier. My kids and I would eat fall honey by the spoonful."

You must be talking about buckwheat honey. It is as dark as molasses and it tastes great. My favorite honey is orange blossom honey, followed by sourwood honey and tupelo honey.

I do not buy any honey from the grocery store because it is mixed with honey from other countries and it has no taste, just like everything else in the grocery store. **I am a connoisseur of varietal honey from local beekeepers! ** Comb honey is my favorite. I eat a teaspoon of comb honey every night before I go to bed.

 

[1ke]

I am following the vegan diet of this pastor: hacres.com/home

This is not a Catholic website. This is a “non denominational pastor” who claims to know “God’s way to ultimate health.” While the diet is certainly fine-- nothing unique about what he’s proposing-- the “spiritual” element of this is definitely not Catholic.

 

[CPA2]

This is not a Catholic website. This is a “non denominational pastor” who claims to know “God’s way to ultimate health.” While the diet is certainly fine-- nothing unique about what he’s proposing-- the “spiritual” element of this is definitely not Catholic.

Dig a little deeper. He quotes the same bible that we use. God does tell His people what to eat in Genesis. It does no good to pray over “food” that is poison to our bodies.

Eating 100% plant based food does work for me, as evidenced by the blood work done by my doctor before and after I started eating mostly raw vegetables, fruits and nuts.

 

[1ke]

Dig a little deeper. He quotes the same bible that we use. God does tell His people what to eat in Genesis.

The fundamentalist, literal interpretation of the first 10 books of Genesis is not required by the Catholic Church. The Church gives us guidance on how to interpret scripture. One must always read the Scripture from the heart of the Church and assent to the Church’s teachings. One may not read it with a Baptist, fundamentalist preacher’s inteprertation.

But, yes, God does tell his people what to eat:

Genesis 9:3 Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat; I give them all to you as I did the green plants.

It does no good to pray over “food” that is poison to our bodies.

God blessed and commanded that Noah and his descendents eat poison? Hmmm, I don’t think so.

Eating 100% plant based food does work for me, as evidenced by the blood work done by my doctor before and after I started eating mostly raw vegetables, fruits and nuts.

And that is where you must draw the line-- that it “works for” you. You cannot give any sort of medical advice on this forum, and you seem to be trying to tell people to eat according to your idea of an ideal diet in order to cure diseases, etc. That is not allowed here.

And, moreover, a 100% plant based diet does not suit everyone nor is it required by our Faith.

 

[aspawloski4th]

Beware of what you ask for. We do not always die a quick death. Some of us die a slow, painful death because of our bad eating habits. We dig our grave with our teeth.

I love good food! I am a connoisseur of great food. **All that I ask is that food taste good! **Vegan food tastes great! I love wheat germ burgers, vegan pizza, etc. When my son was in high school, he piled his plate so high with vegan food that it looked like a volcano!

Tisk tisk. Give me my double bacon cheese burger with mayo and ketchup, with frys or even hashbrowns, mm mm pizza with pepporoni, sausage , ham with extra bacon and extra cheese, with Gold Peak Iced tea. Now thats taste. By the way my total cholesterol is about 165.

 

[aspawloski4th]

Beware of what you ask for. We do not always die a quick death. Some of us die a slow, painful death because of our bad eating habits. We dig our grave with our teeth.

I love good food! I am a connoisseur of great food. **All that I ask is that food taste good! **Vegan food tastes great! I love wheat germ burgers, vegan pizza, etc. When my son was in high school, he piled his plate so high with vegan food that it looked like a volcano!

Just wondering… How are you getting vitamin B12 then? You know thhe energy vitamin. All major sources of that are animal!

 

[Ridgerunner]

Ridgerunner;6668231:

Honey is an excellent sweetener. Back when I had bees for a hobby, I particularly liked using dark fall honey as sweetener for apple pie. Incredibly good, and you could eat as much as you wanted without the slightest peril of indigestion! I actually preferred fall honey just to eat. Dark as molasses, and without that “tingle” spring honey has, though spring honey is prettier. My kids and I would eat fall honey by the spoonful."

You must be talking about buckwheat honey. It is as dark as molasses and it tastes great. My favorite honey is orange blossom honey, followed by sourwood honey and tupelo honey.

I do not buy any honey from the grocery store because it is mixed with honey from other countries and it has no taste, just like everything else in the grocery store. **I am a connoisseur of varietal honey from local beekeepers! **

Comb honey is my favorite. I eat a teaspoon of comb honey every night before I go to bed.

Not buckwheat honey. I have heard of it, but I have never had it because there’s no buckwheat around here. There are, however, a lot of fall wildflowers, principally in the mixed pasture/woods areas. Usually starts in late September and lasts into November. Big honey flow, almost as big as May/June. I don’t know what, exactly, the bees get it from, but whatever it is, it’s in those mixed pasture/woodlands. Very possibly some of it comes from fruit that pops its skin. I know persimmons will do that and wild grapes, and I have seen bees on both in the fall.

 

[St_Francis]

…Eating 100% plant based food does work for me, as evidenced by the blood work done by my doctor before and after I started eating mostly raw vegetables, fruits and nuts.

Ayup, beef from the grocery store is generally from cows which have been fattened up by high-grain diets before slaughter. That diet turns their “good” fats into “bad” fats, so that type of meat is bad for people. But “real” meat has a lot of stuff which is very good for us

And milk is also very good for humans. I don’t see any general prohibitions against either meat or milk in the Bible, just not to eat certain types of meat, and not to mix milk with the meat of the calf, each of which shows that the Jews were permitted to drink milk and eat other dairy products along with meat.

Weston Price Foundation

Raw Milk Campaign

 

[1ke]

And milk is also very good for humans. I don’t see any general prohibitions against either meat or milk in the Bible, just not to eat certain types of meat, and not to mix milk with the meat of the calf, each of which shows that the Jews were permitted to drink milk and eat other dairy products along with meat.

Yes, let us not forget that the Promised Land was flowing with **MILK **and honey.

 

[manualman]

What year is it? This was all the rage in the early 1990s!

Today, no matter if I shop at Costco, Domincks/Safeway, Jewel/Abertsons, or Target, every one of the milk jugs proudly proclaims itself to come from cows NOT treated with rBGH. I don’t know where you could get it if you wanted to!