Minneapolis Archbishop Condemned for Giving Catholic Teaching on Homosexuality

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Minneapolis Archbishop Condemned for Giving Catholic Teaching on Homosexuality

ovember 19, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a recent column in the local diocesan newspaper, Minneapolis/St. Paul Coadjuter Archbishop John C. Nienstedt concisely explained the Church’s teaching regarding both a homosexual’s obligation to chastity and the Church’s obligation to support and encourage such a chaste lifestyle. The column has caused a backlash of harsh criticism from the ‘homosexual community’ in what has until recently been known as a notoriously liberal Catholic diocese.

Archbishop Nienstedt’s column in the diocesan paper ‘The Catholic Spirit’ was authored as a sequel to a previous column, written by the paper’s editor, Joe Towalski. That article had, according to Archbishop Nienstedt, “addressed the issue of the church’s teaching on homosexuality” and “the reason why those who promote homosexual activity or a homosexual lifestyle are not permitted to speak at Catholic institutions.”

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I know Im not a Catholic, I dont have problems with his stance on this issue but when he makes commets like this

“I do not come as a politician but as a priest, as one who sees his life as being a bridge between God and his people”

Isnt this the point of Jesus? He came to us, and is the bridge. This bishop can help people understand and what not, but in no way can he bridge the Gap between man and God. If he thinks he can do that well thats a whole lot of pride there and I will take all his directions with a grain of salt.
 
Antithesis said:
He came to us, and is the bridge. This bishop can help people understand and what not, but in no way can he bridge the Gap between man and God. If he thinks he can do that well thats a whole lot of pride there and I will take all his directions with a grain of salt.
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Because the priest fully represents God himself.
 
Isnt this the point of Jesus? He came to us, and is the bridge. This bishop can help people understand and what not, but in no way can he bridge the Gap between man and God. If he thinks he can do that well thats a whole lot of pride there and I will take all his directions with a grain of salt.

If you are helping people understand and bringing them to a more complete understanding of the will of God, then aren’t you in a way bridging their gap between their curent position and God.
 
That is not being a bridge. God is infinately perfect to reach God you must be perfect. A bishop holy as he can be can not reach God because he is not perfect. Only God can come down to where you are and bring you closer. How He does it is up to Him. Likeusing a bishop orthe lady down the street or the abandoned Saint stautue. However I would never ever say that Im am the way to God. God is only the way to God
 
Antithesis said:
I know Im not a Catholic, I dont have problems with his stance on this issue but when he makes commets like this

“I do not come as a politician but as a priest, as one who sees his life as being a bridge between God and his people”

Isnt this the point of Jesus? He came to us, and is the bridge. This bishop can help people understand and what not, but in no way can he bridge the Gap between man and God. If he thinks he can do that well thats a whole lot of pride there and I will take all his directions with a grain of salt.
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Priests act “in persona Christi” - in the person of Christ. The Archbishop is correct in saying that he acts as a bridge between God and His people because he acts as Christ.

For example, when the Eucharist is consecrated, the priest acts, but it is Christ who consecrates the Eucharist. In this way, the priest acts as a bridge.
 
Antithesis,
Are you a politition, my friend you are talking in circles:confused: Your right God can make anyone a bridge for any other person. therefor the Bishop can be that bridge can’t he.
 
Corki said:
Here is the link to the original article.
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In that article, Archbishop Nienstedt refers to a 2004 document “clarifying the role of Catholic politicians with respect to their stands on moral issues within the public arena.”

Does anyone know the name of that document?

Abp. Nienstadt mentions a document called “Always Our Children”, which he says was not a statement of the full USCCB but only had the backing of one committee. Is anyone familar with that document and why the archbishop took time to discount it?
 
As for the role of politicians, he may be referring to Faithful Citizenship the last iteration of the same document that the USCCB just approved at their meeting this month. They rewrite it every 4 years.

I think this is significant since the document refers to the Church’s postition defending the family and not supporting same-sex marriages. This, from what I gather, is a real concern in the M/St. Paul area. I remember some flack around St. Joan of Arc which has a ministry specifically for GLBT families and which actively promotes adoptions by same-sex couples. The Archbishop is sure going to have his hands full.

:gopray: :gopray: :gopray:
 
Antithesis said:
I know Im not a Catholic, I dont have problems with his stance on this issue but when he makes commets like this

“I do not come as a politician but as a priest, as one who sees his life as being a bridge between God and his people”

Isnt this the point of Jesus? He came to us, and is the bridge. This bishop can help people understand and what not, but in no way can he bridge the Gap between man and God. If he thinks he can do that well thats a whole lot of pride there and I will take all his directions with a grain of salt.
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There’s nothing wrong with the passage.
God is comprised of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is Jesus
The Clergy do work as a bridge.
 
I am happy that this bishop is the coadjuter bishop, which means that he will take over when the present head of the diocese retires. There have been serious problems that have not been properly addressed before, including for example the notorious St. Joan of Arc parish, where for one thing being gay is affirmed as a good thing. I lived through the 1960s where many things went crazy in society and in the Church, but over the years the Church is purifying itself of these problems.
 
mdgspencer said:
I am happy that this bishop is the coadjuter bishop, which means that he will take over when the present head of the diocese retires. There have been serious problems that have not been properly addressed before, including for example the notorious St. Joan of Arc parish, where for one thing being gay is affirmed as a good thing. I lived through the 1960s where many things went crazy in society and in the Church, but over the years the Church is purifying itself of these problems.
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It seems like things are slowly changing for the better.
 
Antithesis said:
I know Im not a Catholic, I dont have problems with his stance on this issue but when he makes commets like this

“I do not come as a politician but as a priest, as one who sees his life as being a bridge between God and his people”

Isnt this the point of Jesus? He came to us, and is the bridge. This bishop can help people understand and what not, but in no way can he bridge the Gap between man and God. If he thinks he can do that well thats a whole lot of pride there and I will take all his directions with a grain of salt.
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**Yes, but you forget that, once forgiven of their sins, Jesus told them “Go, and SIN NO MORE.” He didn’t say, “Continue to sin as I will look the other way (wink wink).”

The bishop, as an apostolic successor to the Apostles, and has every right to instruct the faithful on Faith and morals. I say, “Amen, Bishop!” :amen: **
 
The so called “Catholic Rainbow Parents” don’t like this new archbishop, as he is certain to rain on their parade. The dawn of purification has arrived for the Catholic Church in the Twin Cities, and all the progressives and heretics are beginning to squirm.

At the end of Archbishop Nienstedt’s tenure, I expect the Archdiocese of St. Paul-Minneapolis to be far more Catholic than it is today, but not before ALOT of purging is done and MANY mean words are exchanged.

Please pray for us, as this transition to orthodoxy is certain to be very rough…:signofcross:
 
Being gay is not bad or morally wrong. Homosexual acts are bad, immoral and wrong. Just as any sex outside marriage is wrong.
 
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