Misinformation posted officially at work - how to handle?

[PeterT]

Tis_Bearself:

Yeah, historians tend to believe he was born in the summer or fall, not the spring.

For a long time I thought that it was likely that he was born in the fall, on Rosh Hashanah. It’s held to be the day on which Adam and Eve were created, as well as the day on which Abraham nearly sacrificed Isaac. It seemed right to me that it would also be the birthday of our Lord.

But there’s no good reason to think that it wasn’t on December 25, even though a poll of all historians (which by definition is going to be comprised largely of those who are in fact ignorant of the topic) might find that most of them think otherwise.

I think the evidence that supports that John the Baptist was born in late winter or early spring is pretty strong. Hence Jesus was most likely born about 6 months later. But I truly doubt he was born during a significant Jewish feast like Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur, because if he indeed was born on such an auspicious day, I’m sure the authors of the Gospel according to Matthew or the Gospel according to Luke would have mentioned it in their respective Gospels.

 

[PeterT]

Google it. Historians familiar with the Jewish calendar and the workings of the Temple can. Enough information is giving in the Gospel according to Luke to p(name removed by moderator)oint the week in the annual Jewish calendar. What remains somewhat uncertain is the year, and since the Jewish calendar is a lunar calendar, depending on the Jewish year it was, the actual date could vary by weeks (but not by months).

 

[BartholomewB]

Historians familiar with the Jewish calendar and the workings of the Temple can.

No, I don’t think they can. Everyone understands the Jewish calendar. There’s no difficulty there. But Luke doesn’t mention the Jewish calendar in this context. The only information in Luke that might help to p(name removed by moderator)oint the date is that Zechariah was a priest in the division of Abijah. But there are no records listing the divisions or “courses” of Temple priests.

 

[Shakuhachi]

Don’t get into a Posting war. What is the purpose of the board? Propaganda? Or info on current local events? Are there More things like that promoting or detracting causes? Sounds like an extremely bad idea for the work place. HR should be involved.

 

[Canvas]

If it is a public bulletin board, just post your own Christmas bulletin if you want or are allowed, without “throwing shade”. Don’t pick a fight with the multicultural committee.

Just put up something nice and positive about Christmas and the Nativity.

 

[FiveLinden]

All ‘atheists’ are rebellious and broken little children going “I hate you daddy I hate you daddy !!! I don’t need you” at the soul level !!

That is not how I see myself. Why would you say this to me an others on CAF?

 

[FiveLinden]

I recommend looking for opportunities to describe your beliefs in a positive way and not worrying about what other people think about elements of your belief. I know something about internal communication in business and unless there is something about your culture I do not understand I’m confident that the posting of notices on boards is probably the single action least likely to influence the beliefs and actions of others. In my experience of large workplaces of a hundred people who look at the board (probably 30% of staff), 90% will not notice the post, 1% will actually read it and 0% will be influenced by it. Of course if you make a fuss about it, 100% will read it.

 

[QwertyGirl]

All ‘atheists’ are rebellious and broken little children going “I hate you daddy I hate you daddy !!! I don’t need you” at the soul level !! That’s all this is. Christianity touches a raw nerve and they are fighting against what their soul knows to be true and it spreads to every part of their lives. So just pray for them and celebrate Christmas at work xxx

I think you should educate yourself at least a little bit with regards to atheists. I know many atheists, and none even come close to your description.

 

[Francis]

You should replace it with a write-up about Jesus Birth ,do a small research,in brief and concentrate on the signification of Christmas and what Christians believe.also sure social media or a sms ,like intern office communication if the rule permits, with some links too.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p122a3p3.htm

II. THE MYSTERIES OF JESUS’ INFANCY AND HIDDEN LIFE

The preparations

**[522] The coming of God’s Son to earth is an event of such immensity that God willed to prepare for it over centuries. He makes everything converge on Christ: all the rituals and sacrifices, figures and symbols of the “First Covenant”.195 He announces him through the mouths of the prophets who succeeded one another in Israel. Moreover, he awakens in the hearts of the pagans a dim expectation of this coming.

**[523]( St. John the Baptist is the Lord’s immediate precursor or forerunner, sent to prepare his way.196 “Prophet of the Most High”, John surpasses all the prophets, of whom he is the last.197 He inaugurates the Gospel, already from his mother’s womb welcomes the coming of Christ, and rejoices in being “the friend of the bridegroom”, whom he points out as “the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world”.198 Going before Jesus “in the spirit and power of Elijah”, John bears witness to Christ in his preaching, by his Baptism of conversion, and through his martyrdom.199

**[524] When the Church celebrates the liturgy of Advent each year, she makes present this ancient expectancy of the Messiah, for by sharing in the long preparation for the Savior’s first coming, the faithful renew their ardent desire for his second coming.200 By celebrating the precursor’s birth and martyrdom, the Church unites herself to his desire: "He must increase, but I must decrease."201

The Christmas mystery

**[525] Jesus was born in a humble stable, into a poor family.202 Simple shepherds were the first witnesses to this event. In this poverty heaven’s glory was made manifest.203 The Church never tires of singing the glory of this night:

The Virgin today brings into the world the Eternal
And the earth offers a cave to the Inaccessible.
The angels and shepherds praise him
And the magi advance with the star,
For you are born for us,
Little Child, God eternal!204

**[526 To become a child in relation to God is the condition for entering the kingdom.205 For this, we must humble ourselves and become little. Even more: to become “children of God” we mu–t be “born from above” or “born of God”.206 Only when Christ is formed in us will the mystery of Christmas be fulfilled in us.207 Christmas is the mystery of this “marvelous exchange”:

 

[halogirl]

Well, because it’s my opinion. I mean no disrespect and I am sorry if anyone was upset by how I stated it. I don’t expect everyone to agree. When I say ‘broken’ we are all broken spiritually without Jesus. Atheists are to me just those who are continuing to live on this path. And again that is based on my own experiences

 

[halogirl]

I am aware of what an atheist is however this is my opinion on what’s possibly happening at a spiritual level based on the encounters I’ve had. Why would they even come on a catholic forum if they are so convinced god doesn’t exist? They are searching and don’t realise it.

 

[QwertyGirl]

Some are trying to heal by facing, head on, what has done great harm to them.

 

[halogirl]

And I sincerely hope they find that healing. God is waiting for them

 

[Bradskii]

All ‘atheists’ are rebellious and broken little children going “I hate you daddy I hate you daddy !!!

This broken little child would like to know why you have scare quotes around the word atheists?

 

[halogirl]

I’m a broken kid too! I believe we are all made in the image of God and as such our soul believes in and recognises God. So nobody is ever truly an atheist on every level that’s all

 

[KathleenT]

Most harm is done by humans.

How does bouncing around on a Catholic forum discussing theology help people heal from harm others did to them?

 

[Bradskii]

I’m a broken kid too! I believe we are all made in the image of God and as such our soul believes in and recognises God. So nobody is ever truly an atheist on every level that’s all

I’m an uber-atheist. Not only do I not believe in your God, I don’t believe in anyone else’s either.

 

[Pattylt]

Why would they even come on a catholic forum if they are so convinced god doesn’t exist? They are searching and don’t realise it.

Because I am curious as to exactly what Catholics believe and why they believe it. Catholics often complain that others get their beliefs wrong and I thought the best way to make sure I am correct when stating a Catholic belief or doctrine is to learn what Catholics are actually saying and believing.

Would you prefer we leave and take any misconceptions with us! And yes,your comment was inaccurate and somewhat rude

 

[debgab]

Why was the christian celebration of Christmas singled out for a “historical perspective”?
I wouldn’t aske why the other holiday’s were not. I’d leave it for her to understand the point made with the question above…

Maybe she thought some found Christmas offensiveand wanted to even out the playing field by suggesting that it evolved from a pagan celebration.
Hmmmm.

 

[halogirl]

Not really sure what you get out of spending time on a religious forum then I sure wouldn’t. But each to their own