Mitt Romney’s campaign calls gay teen bullying report ‘exaggerated’

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Jerry_Miah said:
I agree with you, actually, with two caveats:
  1. The Repubs have pounded Obama things that happened when he was very young, like his admitted sampling of drugs, and even things when he was a child, like what school he attended. They even tried to make an issue of the fact that he might have been served dogmeat as a small child when living in a place in the world where that was normal. So, sorry Repubs, you set the rules, so game on.
  2. This should be used to open up the national discussion of Republican policies about gays, the recent firing of Romney’s high-level adviser for being gay. In fact many on this board have argued gay bullying is over-emphasized, and yet here we have a presidential candidate who bullied gays when he was in high school.
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Were you there? It is just as likely that cutting the guys hair was silliness and whether or not he was gay, we do not know for fact. As far as the adviser leaving the campaign, how do you know he was fired? The people in the campaign, as well as Romney himself, say otherwise. Why should me believe you and the MSM any more than the other side of the story.
 
Birdpreacher said:
Lets not forget that it was Romney’s main advisor that originated the “Obama ate dog as a child” push from a few weeks back.
slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/04/mitt_romney_s_campaign_is_quicker_to_punch_back_against_barack_obama_than_john_mccain_s_campaign_four_years_ago_.html
But yes the campaign is going to get nasty from both sides
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Actually it originated in Obama’s alleged autobiography. I suspect he wishes Ayers hadnt included the anecdote
 
Suudy said:
There doesn’t appear to be any evidence whatsoever that this was motivated by the “presumed sexuality” of Lauber. Indeed, the recollection of Romeny’s classmate:
“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

The only evidence was that it as about his hair, not his sexuality.
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There is not enough evidence to go either way if you ask me. This could have been motivated by the boy’s presumed sexuality or just his hair. An article written years after the fact will not tell us what was the motivating factor for Mitt and it is unlikely that Mitt will ever say he did it because the guy was gay now, since its an election year. We really can’t tell why it was done.

Now say it was just because the kid had long hair.
Why in the hell about this kid’s hair would bother Mitt enough to think that it was ok to use physical force against this kid’s will. Mitt was a senior in high school. If he was 18 when it happened he would’ve been viewed in the laws eyes as an adult.
Suudy said:
Also, note that the only other accusation was from a “closeted gay student”, without any other corroboration.
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5 students came out and said it happened
the incident was recalled similarly by five students, who gave their accounts independently of one another. Four of them — Friedemann, now a dentist; Phillip Maxwell, a lawyer; Thomas Buford, a retired prosecutor; and David Seed, a retired principal — spoke on the record. Another former student who witnessed the incident asked not to be named.
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Birdpreacher said:
There is not enough evidence to go either way if you ask me. This could have been motivated by the boy’s presumed sexuality or just his hair. An article written years after the fact will not tell us what was the motivating factor for Mitt and it is unlikely that Mitt will ever say he did it because the guy was gay now, since its an election year. We really can’t tell why it was done.
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He wasn’t much of a closeted gay student if everyone knew he was gay.🤷
 
If the Obamaites are dropping this now what do you think they have in store for Oct. when the good surprises come out.
 
estesbob said:
Actually it originated in Obama’s alleged autobiography. I suspect he wishes Ayers hadnt included the anecdote
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Its all about the context. The book was written in 1995. No one was bringing up the contents of the book until doggate (were both sides took cheap shots) and they were brought up to reinforce this notion that Obama comes from a strange background and should thus not be trusted. So he ate a dog, its gross. I understand the criticism from people who want to emphasize that the act of eating a dog is gross. However, some people took it as an opportunity to emphasize that Obama’s cultural background is gross and un-American. Thats a cheap shot that not even McCain wanted to take in 2008.
 
Birdpreacher said:
There is not enough evidence to go either way if you ask me. This could have been motivated by the boy’s presumed sexuality or just his hair. An article written years after the fact will not tell us what was the motivating factor for Mitt and it is unlikely that Mitt will ever say he did it because the guy was gay now, since its an election year. We really can’t tell why it was done.
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Read the WaPo article. I didn’t see anything confirming if this person’s sexual orientation.
Lauber died in 2004, according to his three sisters.
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Ridgerunner said:
True. I would be embarrassed as well for some of those things I did as a young man. Participated in worse. Witnessed MUCH worse. Heard others tell about MUCH, MUCH worse.

But it’s true people can change. I remember one of the guys in my college class, a day student of Italian extraction, who was well understood to be the toughest guy in the whole school. One of his favorite things to do was to go into a local park that was infested by hoodlums at night, swinging a chain, challenging whomever wanted to take him on. And he did get takers from time to time. Such was his prowess that he left many a person severely bloodied and beaten.

Many years later, I saw his name on the letterhead of one of the leading Orthopaedic Surgery clinics in a city in my state. I was just thunderstruck. I was nearby and thought I would just drop in and say hello. It was him, but what a change! Mild-mannered, kindly, a man at the top of his profession.
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Ha ha! But he still gets to break bones!!!

And gets paid for it.

:clapping::rotfl::rotfl:
 
scipio337 said:
Read the WaPo article. I didn’t see anything confirming if this person’s sexual orientation.

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It doesn’t matter at all. What matters is they thought he was gay when Romney and his gang assaulted and humiliated him.
 
Jerry_Miah said:
I agree with you, actually, with two caveats:
  1. The Repubs have pounded Obama things that happened when he was very young, like his admitted sampling of drugs…
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You do realize that possession of any amount of cocaine is a FELONY, right?

I would think that would matter for a person running for the highest office in the free world, regardless of the consonant placed next to their name.
  1. This should be used to open up the national discussion of Republican policies about gays, the recent firing of Romney’s high-level adviser for being gay. In fact many on this board have argued gay bullying is over-emphasized, and yet here we have a presidential candidate who bullied gays when he was in high school.
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He wasn’t fired, he resigned. Please get the story correct.
 
Jerry_Miah said:
It doesn’t matter at all. What matters is they thought he was gay when Romney and his gang assaulted and humiliated him.
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And you gleaned this for the article…where?

The eyewitness accounts?
“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled…
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Sounds like it was due to his long hair. In 1965.
 
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