Mitt Romney’s campaign calls gay teen bullying report ‘exaggerated’

  • Thread starter Thread starter Birdpreacher
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Yes.

Pro-life is an interesting example. An awful lot of Republicans are pro-death penalty. I do not believe that is part of the Catholic pro-life point of view. Being anti-abortion is good, but that doesn’t mean being pro-life.

And, despite the assurances of others that the Republican party doesn’t want to get rid of the “social net” I do not see it in practice. Seems that making money is more important to them than the people who work at their money making companies.

Tom A.
Vote the Boomstick party!
Bruce Campbell for President, George Takei for Vice President
The death penalty is not one of the 5 non-negotiables, though.

Abortion
Stem cell research
Euthanasia
Human cloning
Homosexual marriage

Those are the deal-killers. That means the Democrat Party is automatically rejected. Pro-Life Democrats? Maybe. Show me the ones who don’t support the rest of the party platform. As I said, I am a Catholic American, with no loyalties to political party except as my Catholic faith demands.
 
No, that is not correct. There is no requirement that you throw. Your vote away on a non viable canidate. If that were true we would in effect cede the political playing field to the culture of death.
Please show where any official catholic official says we are to not vote for the best candidate because this is what you are saying.

The unofficial 6th non-negotiable for GOP Catholics is candidate must be “viable”.
 
Please show where any official catholic official says we are to not vote for the best candidate because this is what you are saying.

The unofficial 6th non-negotiable for GOP Catholics is candidate must be “viable”.
There is no such thing as an unofficial 6th non-negotiable.

:dts:
 
There is no such thing as an unofficial 6th non-negotiable.
If not, then you can’t support Romney who is pro-choice (rape and incest and health) and supports gay marriage and adoption by the states.
 
Please show where any official catholic official says we are to not vote for the best candidate because this is what you are saying.

The unofficial 6th non-negotiable for GOP Catholics is candidate must be “viable”.
We are obliged to oppose evil in exercising our political franchise. Throwing away one’s vote on oneself, or Mickey Mouse or some fringe candidate is not doing that. It’s an exercise in personal pique or vanity, and in no way opposes evil.
 
If not, then you can’t support Romney who is pro-choice (rape and incest and health) and supports gay marriage and adoption by the states.
Actually, we can, as we are permitted to vote to oppose a greater evil if the defeat of the greater evil is our objective.

And it’s not “health” he cites as an exception, but the “life of the mother” which, in limited circumstances, the Catholic Church allows; specifically, when abortion is an unintended and unavoidable side effect of a procedure to save the life of the mother.

As has been noted by another, he does not support homosexual marriage or homosexual adoption.

At this time, since there is one other Repub presidential candidate, one could make a good argument that we are obliged to support Ron Paul in the primary, but not after, if Romney is nominated.

At this particular point in time, a lot of Catholics have voted for “no exceptions” prolife candidates, but for most, that’s the last chance they’ll get.

That’s true of me. I voted for Santorum in our primary. The only remaining vote I get to cast is in the general election.
 
Please show where any official catholic official says we are to not vote for the best candidate because this is what you are saying.

The unofficial 6th non-negotiable for GOP Catholics is candidate must be “viable”.
It isn’t non-negotiable, and it isn’t a “GOP Catholic” thing. The Church teaches that viability (i.e. the realistic chance that a candidate could be elected) can be part of a voters calculation when using prudential judgement. In fact, doing so is the sign of a rational thought process.
 
If not, then you can’t support Romney who is pro-choice (rape and incest and health) and supports gay marriage and adoption by the states.
Rape, incest and health are a very small percentage of abortions. MOST are done/promoted for convenience and for profit by organizations like Planned Parenthood. Obama has fully supported and increased abortion coverages whereever he could - even the most sickening practice of late term abortions.
 
Rape, incest and health are a very small percentage of abortions. MOST are done/promoted for convenience and for profit by organizations like Planned Parenthood. Obama has fully supported and increased abortion coverages whereever he could - even the most sickening practice of late term abortions.
Yep. Note that Pork Roll never answered my question - posed twice:
So, if legislation were to come up for vote banning all abortions nationwide, with the exception of rape and unborn children “known by competent medical authority to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth,” you would oppose that legislation?
It’s a pretty simple question. Such legislation would be the “lesser of two evils,” but I guarantee you that 99% of pro-lifers would support it, including the Catholic Church. Limiting evil is a very worthwhile cause, when unrestricted evil is the law of the land.
 
Why does every single thread always get back to abortion. How did Mitt Romney’s teenage bullying get us here. It seems to happen no matter what the initial thread is. All roads lead to Rome?
 
Even if true, we’re going to use pranks a candidate did over 40 years ago to judge his character by?

This is really going to be a horrible campaign season.

Jim
Exactly and heaven forbid a non Democrat ‘evolves’ in his way of thinking or behavior!
 
Why does every single thread always get back to abortion. How did Mitt Romney’s teenage bullying get us here. It seems to happen no matter what the initial thread is. All roads lead to Rome?
Because Catholics cannot ignore the sanctioned death of babies in their mothers’ wombs. Over 50 million babies have been killed since 1973. Abortion is THE #1 non-negotiable for Catholic voters.
 
Exactly and heaven forbid a non Democrat ‘evolves’ in his way of thinking or behavior!
You mean like being for it before you were against it then for it again?

That’s like saying coal turns into a diamond then turns back into coal.
 
Why does every single thread always get back to abortion. How did Mitt Romney’s teenage bullying get us here. It seems to happen no matter what the initial thread is. All roads lead to Rome?
It’s not so strange. People come in here to defend Obama by, e.g., citing some allegation against his opponent. This thread is a good example of that. Some people challenge the allegation itself, and many have. Some challenge the alleged meaning and significance of the allegation, and many have.

But also, when one is trying to support Obama by asserting some moral fault against his opponent, one has to take the support in context. When one asserts moral turpitude against Obama’s opponent, one has to take it in context even if one believes it.

Since Obama’s promotion of abortion is such a huge moral issue, it isn’t odd at all that people would compare assertions of moral fault made against Romney to those which may be legitimately made against Obama, because, after all, as Catholics we are obliged to consider the morality or immorality of the plans and actions of those who intend to lead us.

When assertions are made against Obama’s opponents, the intent is to favorably compare Obama to the opponent. It should surprise no one when people reject that.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top