Mitt Romney Presidential Campaign

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Well, people are quite free to continue their gluttonous, profligate lifestyles with no concern for life on earth, but** I will continue to mitigate climate change. It has already saved us $1000s over the decades, while reducing our GHG emissions 60%+ below our 1990 emissions, and without lowering our living standard, even increasing it a bit.**

So, I would appreciate people like Romney and the Holy Father not trying to dissuade me from mitigating climate change.

It may or may not be a sin to fail to mitigate climate change, esp if people truly don’t know or understand the science, but I think it is a terrible sin to strive to convince other people not to mitigate it, to mount a campaign against mitigating climate change.

I will trust climate scientists to do climate science rather than those who are not climate scientists, and they ALL to a person say anthropogenic climate change is real. My link re runaway warming comes from the top NASA climate scientist - see esp pg 24 of columbia.edu/~jeh1/2008/AGUBjerknes_20081217.pdf

If people want to discount their children and progency and stick their heads in the tar sands, then so be it. But no one, not even the Holy Father, can convince me not to turn off lights not in use or the many other measures we follow.

Sorry, that’s how I am. I don’t like killing people.
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Who has tried to dissuade you from your personal actions regarding climate change? If you are saving $1,000s in the process, why would anyone dissuade you? Can you point to something the Holy Father or Mitt Romney have said that are trying to dissuade you from your personal actions?
 
Ryan is undeniably a bright guy. That being said, he comes from a relatively small state, is not nearly as well known as Ms. Rice, and has some political baggage that will definitely be exploited.
My biggest concern with Ryan has always been his connection with Ayn Rand. While this may seem irrelevant for many, I am convinced that abortion will never be recognized as the horror it is by legislative fiat. It will take a change in our culture. In this battle, Ayn Rand epitomizes the philophy that allows for abortion. I am concerned this young man failed to recognize the connection between the self-center motive in free market economics and legalized abortion.
 
My biggest concern with Ryan has always been his connection with Ayn Rand. While this may seem irrelevant for many, I am convinced that abortion will never be recognized as the horror it is by legislative fiat. It will take a change in our culture. In this battle, Ayn Rand epitomizes the philophy that allows for abortion. I am concerned this young man failed to recognize the connection between the self-center motive in free market economics and legalized abortion.
Hes had a 100% voting record with every pro -life organization that keeps track. He is crticized for his stance of opposing abortion even in cases of rape and infest. He voted to ban sex selection abortions, which puts him to the right of Ron Paul.I can not believe anyone would question his pro -life credentials.
 
A moment of levity…if I may:

" there are two novels that can change a bookish 14 year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with unbelieveable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted,socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Orcs". John Rogers

As someone who read both books as a young person, I can agree. Ayn Rand’s particular brand of glorification of the self above all else disturbed me in high school, and still does today. LOTR on the other hand…😃
 
Mitt Romney was great at the convention. They were all great.
I look forward to voting for Mitt and returning real values to the White House.
 
A moment of levity…if I may:

" there are two novels that can change a bookish 14 year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with unbelieveable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted,socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Orcs". John Rogers

As someone who read both books as a young person, I can agree. Ayn Rand’s particular brand of glorification of the self above all else disturbed me in high school, and still does today. LOTR on the other hand…😃
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From the man who helped get Clinon elected in '92…

Article:
"Romney Has Big Lead In My Poll"
By Dick Morris on August 27, 2012
With all the conflicting polls and survey samples using registered — as opposed to likely — voters, I decided to conduct my own poll using the same methodologies I used so successfully for Clinton.

On Thursday, August 23rd, I conducted a national survey of 500 likely voters through live telephone interviews. The poll finds Romney ahead of Obama by 50-43! — far, far different from the published polls.

(The sample was 33% Democrat, 31% Republican, 11% black, and 8% Latino).

Apart from the head-to-head vote question, my survey tracks with the others on most of its internals.
Obama’s personal favorability is 47-50 while Romney’s is 48-48. The president’s job approval is at 46%.

Asked who would do the best job of:

**Improving the economy = O-39 / R-49

Creating jobs = O-38 / R-50

Strengthening Medicare = O-44 / R-42**
While the Medicare issue is important, it is not the major factor. Asked which is more important, “protecting and strengthening Medicare or improving the economy and creating jobs?” The economy wins by 67-18.
Comparing Medicare plans without explaining them, voters break even with 41% favoring Obama’s and 42% backing Romney’s. Asked which scares them the most, Obama’s scared 46% and Romney’s scared 44%.

But Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan has scored a bull’s eye by his comparison of the two Medicare plans and the following answers indicate:

Whose plan do you agree with more? Obama who would save $716 in Medicare spending and use the money to cover the uninsured or Romney who would make the same savings but use the funds to extend the life of the Medicare trust fund?

Obama’s 38% / Romney’s 53%

And the President continues to draw big negatives over his plans to intervene in medical decision making:

President Obama’s health care law sets up a Board to issue guidelines and instructions to doctors and hospitals on what procedures, medications, or treatment to use for each illness. Do you agree or disagree with this aspect of Obama’s legislation?

Agree: 33% / Disagree: 61%

After argumentation, disagreement with Obama’s Medicare cuts becomes even sharper:

Supporters of this provision say that it will allow us to save funds in Medicare without cutting care. They say that the Board can stop unnecessary tests or overly costly treatments that do not help the patients. But opponents say that it will lead to rationing of Medicare treatment. They say that the Board would ban the most effective medicines to treat cancer, for example, because they are too expensive and might stop old people from getting hip replacements or heart bypasses. In view of these arguments, do you agree or disagree with this aspect of Obama’s legislation?

Agree: 30% / Disagree: 57%

Voters agree by 56-20 that “Romney and Ryan would not change Medicare for current beneficiaries or for people who are now over 55.” And, by 25-60, they reject the statement that “Romney and Ryan would end Medicare and leave the elderly without a good alternative.”

By 48-33, voters agree that “President Obama has not proposed any real long term fix for Medicare” although by 63-18 they agree that “In a few years, Medicare will exhaust its trust fund and will go bankrupt unless we enact changes and reforms.”

But Romney still has some selling to do. Only 38% agreed and 31% disagreed that “Romney will always allow elderly to stay in traditional Medicare. He will just offer a voucher system that will have more attractive alternatives.”
In evaluating the health care and Medicare issue, voters feel that high medical malpractice costs play a key role in driving up costs. By 63-20, they agree that “the abuse of medical malpractice law suits is a big reason medical costs are so high.” By 57-37, they support Romney’s proposals to “curb medical malpractice litigation” agreeing that it “will save billions and extend the life of Medicare.”

Tomorrow, I’ll discuss the survey’s findings on the economy, Obama’s possible second term plans, Bain Capital, Romney’s taxes, the negative campaigning on both sides.
 
From the man who helped get Clinon elected in '92…

Article:
"Romney Has Big Lead In My Poll"
By Dick Morris on August 27, 2012
I didn’t trust Morris when he worked for Clinton and I don’t trust him now. Like Arianna Huffington and David Brock you always wonder if his allegiance will change again if the other side waves enough money at him
 
I didn’t trust Morris when he worked for Clinton and I don’t trust him now. Like Arianna Huffington and David Brock you always wonder if his allegiance will change again if the other side waves enough money at him
I think he has truly seen the light.

Lets not forget that Reagan was once a democrat too.
 
When Rice spoke, there were even pictures of GWB in the background! For that matter, why was Jeb Bush asked to speak? I wonder if Carter will be mentioned at all at the DNC.
Carter will address the convention via video.
 
Reagan couldn’t win a GOP primary today running on his own record. He raised taxes! :eek:
Sure he could: Romney did.

This is a common falacy: The news keeps saying the party is so right wing, yet we never nominate super right wing presidents. Bush Senior, Bob Dole, McCain, Romney… …the rhetoric does not match the reality.
 
Hes had a 100% voting record with every pro -life organization that keeps track. He is crticized for his stance of opposing abortion even in cases of rape and infest. He voted to ban sex selection abortions, which puts him to the right of Ron Paul.I can not believe anyone would question his pro -life credentials.
I am not responsible for the beliefs of anyone here.

The culture of death and the culture of selfishness both spring from a lack of appreciation for the dignity of Man. I just view this as the bigger battle ground, the most important battleground, the real disease of which abortion is a buy one symptom. Address the basic cause of our de-valuing of humanity and abortion will not be palatable as a choice or a legal right.
 
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Who has tried to dissuade you from your personal actions regarding climate change? If you are saving $1,000s in the process, why would anyone dissuade you? Can you point to something the Holy Father or Mitt Romney have said that are trying to dissuade you from your personal actions?
Mitt Romney – he’s out to dissuade everyone not to mitigate anthropogenic climate change at the behest of Koch/Exxon/Scaife/Hamm. He is pro-death to life on earth & very very dangerous.
 
Reagan couldn’t win a GOP primary today running on his own record. He raised taxes! :eek:
Nonsense Reagan cut the top rate from 70% to 28% He had the guts to take on the impending SS bankruptcy and even then sheltered the poor from its impact by introducing the EIC. Demscrats like JFK and Harry Truman would hang their head in shame over the policies of the Modern Democrat Party.
 
Nonsense Reagan cut the top rate from 70% to 28% He had the guts to take on the impending SS bankruptcy and even then sheltered the poor from its impact by introducing the EIC. Demscrats like JFK and Harry Truman would hang their head in shame over the policies of the Modern Democrat Party.
Please go back and look at the real record, i’m not doing it for you. Taxes were raised by President Reagan, and he did so wisely.
 
Please go back and look at the real record, i’m not doing it for you. Taxes were raised by President Reagan, and he did so wisely.
I was preparing taxes during and before the entire Reagan term. AHe would be most comfortable in the current Republican party
 
I was preparing taxes during and before the entire Reagan term. AHe would be most comfortable in the current Republican party
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982, the largest peacetime tax increase in US history. There are 10 more bills signed by President Reagan that raised taxes.

He also raised taxes as Governor of California.

If he were to run in a GOP primary today this stuff would eliminate him as a viable candidate.

Now understand that I believe that to be a very sad turn of events for the party. I would like to see his GOP return.
 
Also, as Governor of California he liberalized the state’s abortion laws, and as President he raised the debt ceiling 18 times.

He couldn’t get away with any of that today.
 
Mitt Romney – he’s out to dissuade everyone not to mitigate anthropogenic climate change at the behest of Koch/Exxon/Scaife/Hamm. He is pro-death to life on earth & very very dangerous.
Again, please quote anything from Mitt Romney or the Holy Father trying to dissuade your personal efforts to minimize your “carbon footprint.” I believe they are both 100% fine with individual efforts. Your generalization is baseless and completely marginalizes the points you are trying to make about climate change concerns.
 
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