Modern Day Witches Call Theirs ‘A Beautiful Way Of Life’

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I already quoted that motto but you ignored it. I also did not say Thelema and Wicca were the same, I said that Wicca had its roots in thelema and shared a similar motto. I would have liked the same courtesy to as not be ignored for the sake of a point.

Many of the saints were not so charitable to false religions because they understood how they ultimately do no good for souls and are hurtful to Jesus. They were charitable to the people, though. Intolerant in principle, but tolerant in practice.

If a Wiccan were to come to me asking for questions on the Catholic faith I would charitably inform them. I’m not so obtuse as to start bashing their religion, though because that would scare them away. But this is a Catholic forum where Catholic thoughts are expressed and it is not uncommon to find people who express that they don’t accept witchcraft.
 
You didn’t quote it. You quoted the Thelema motto and did not once mention the important distinctive aspect of the Wiccan Rede, “harm none” If that’s a similar motto, then like I said, Islam and Catholicism are pretty darned similar. I’m just using your logic, here.

This is indeed a Catholic forum, but notice you are in the “Non-Catholic Religions” sub-forum where you are required to respect the religion being discussed.
 
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There is also another variant of the rede that is: “That it harm none, do as thou wilt”. Of course not all witches live by this rule.
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If you would have simply scrolled, you would have seen it.

To respect means to admire. I do not admire witchcraft. We are supposed to be charitable about non catholic belief and practice, you would be correct in that, but none of what I said would be considered uncharitable. I simply don’t agree with it. I’m not throwing insults at those who practice it.
 
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Sadly, as Wayne has pointed out, freedom of religion has to apply to all.
It’s terrible that the One True Faith is treated as on the same level as these false religions. But we must put up with it, for we hold not political power like we used to…
 
I agree.

Sadly, many do use it, when it means that the government isn’t allowed to interfere with your religion, to mean that you can’t do anything in public about public affronts.

Satanism for example isn’t a religion but a political statement, and they do provocative things against God simply to stretch how far this freedom thing is, and if they are limited from doing x like a public display it can mean we can’t put out public displays for our actual, True Religion that is what we really believe.

It gets frustrating and seems offensive to put a true religion on the same standing as false religions. I mean objectively, I don’t think God would appreciate false religions being on the same “level” as false ones.
But, we must stand it.
And remember that it also gives us certain protections that they CANNOT take away.
 
“If you are not worshiping God, then you are worshiping another god. All other gods are either demons or the devil himself.”

“Prayer is directed to God. If not God then to a god. All other gods are either demons or the devil himself.”

Just because a particular religious path does not follow the same principles or beliefs as your path does, does not inherently make it somehow evil or demonic – that’s just religiocentrism in the extreme.
 
“Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.”

The Word of God.
 
Hello.

Just looked up Wicca on the Women of Grace site. It is against the 1st commandment. We are to worship God and only God.

“Thou shalt not have strange Gods before me. Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. (Exodus 20:3-4)”
 
wicca is for non-conformists

there is no theology

there is no central teaching authority

the “wiccans” are not 100% sure what they believe or don’t believe in…

if you say wicca is not a religion, than what is it; antidisestablishmentarianism?
 
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Brian, Ive talked to a couple that were very wise and scholarly. One I was aquainted with was working hard to discover a continuous line of knowledge to the spirit he worshiped. He understood that without tradition of teaching handed down to the present he couldnt be sure of the spirits character or identity.
 
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Well, I’m sure they do. My experience tells me otherwise, however.

Also, I do need to ask: Where was this article when Christine O’Donnell was running for office?

Remember how bad it was to be a witchy person back then?
 
“If you want to talk about nature and religion read the confessions of St Patrick…”

Don’t forget that Ireland’s brand of Christianity was very different than Rome’s – “Celtic Christianity” (as it’s commonly referred to) incorporated many pre-Christian elements. The Celtic Cross is a good example – it incorporates the Christien cross with the Celtic solar wheel divided into it’s four parts/seasons.

Patrick may have written a lot about nature and religion perhaps, because as a Briton, the idea of the Deity ever present in Nature was something he was very familiar with. One has to wonder if perhaps he didn’t try to approach a very pre-Christian concept through the eyes of Christianity.

I don’t recall if particular prayers supposedly written by Patrick or perhaps just some of the common ones during his time period – they are very obvious pre-Christian prayers which have been Christianized. Sort of similar to what happened with the Old English epic, Beowulf; the Christian elements sort of stick out like a sore thumb, i.e. it’s very obvious where they were added in (at a later date).
 
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I think a lot of people do know that he wasn’t originally Irish, but there’s debate about whether he was Scots or French. A recent book, as well as some books I read years ago, had him being born to some noble family in what is now France, although the family may have moved to France from somewhere else before he was born.

I also wish we still had a Celtic Rite of Catholicism.
 
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