Modern Day Witches Call Theirs ‘A Beautiful Way Of Life’

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There has been at least one large Catholic prayer group praying for Trump on a regular basis this year, including praying at the same time of some of these witch activities, and also there are are many individual Catholic prayer groups that pray for the President (they do this for every President, it’s not special for Trump). So I would posit that the Catholic prayers likely outweigh any effects from these spells. Probably in sheer numbers as well as the relative power of a prayer to Jesus and Mary compared to some pagan mumbling.
 
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BornInMarch said:
I read your comment, and it’s just you stating that having Priestesses is an intentional perversion of the Catholic Church and that they must therefore be doing that on purpose.

I fail to see the logic in that. Many religions had Priests and Priestesses, even before Abraham received his calling from God.
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I direct you to my earlier comments. A priest makes a sacrifice. That is the function of a priest. If the sacrifice is not made to God, then it is made to a demon or the devil himself. Religions other than Judaism were pagan religions where the people worshiped idols. Idols are demons. Here is what St. Paul says: “But the things which the heathens sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God. And I would not that you should be made partakers with devils.” 1 Cor 10:20 People today are intentionally rejecting the Catholic religion when they go to these great lengths to have their own version of rituals and priestesses, etc. There is definitely an element of intent in these actions.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
That is my understanding. I looked for current info and alledgedly witches from all over the world gather once a month to do a binding spell with the intent that he will not cause harm and that he will fail.
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It is hard to tell what they’re really doing and apparently they’re not really saying or the media isn’t asking. If their intent is that he do no harm, that wouldn’t be bad if they define what they mean by “harm”. The part about him failing is scary 'cause if he fails, we ALL go down with him.
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I read some of the details of the spell, they included using a baby carrot or orange crayon and o just couldn’t take it seriously.
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I agree with you. It is hard to take this seriously.
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There has been at least one large Catholic prayer group praying for Trump on a regular basis this year, including praying at the same time of some of these witch activities, and also there are are many individual Catholic prayer groups that pray for the President (they do this for every President, it’s not special for Trump). . . . So I would posit that the Catholic prayers likely outweigh any effects from these spells. Probably in sheer numbers as well as the relative power of a prayer to Jesus and Mary compared to some pagan mumbling.
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That’s a very good thing to know! That’s what we should all be doing.
 
I believe both wiccans and Freemasons have the basic motto “do as thou wilt” which I think speaks for itself as to the damage it has done for souls.
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You’ve been using the statement that “you believe” something quite a lot in this thread, but your beliefs are factually incorrect in this case. The Wiccan motto is not “do as thou wilt”. Try to understand the religion that you’re criticizing so drastically before you speak up about it.
 
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That’s a very good thing to know! That’s what we should all be doing.
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Fr. Heilman did a 54-day Holy Face Chaplet novena for Trump earlier this year. The Holy Face Chaplet is apparently a favorite of Cardinal Burke who says it is powerful against evil. There is a place on the Web where you can request a free Holy Face Chaplet. So many people requested one for the novena that the place got swamped and couldn’t fill the orders until about 3 or 4 months after the novena was over. Fr. Heilman’s shop also sold Holy Face Chaplets if you wanted to buy one. It was taking like at least 2 months to get them because so many people ordered. If you didn’t have a chaplet and didn’t want to buy one (or like me you had ordered one and requested a free one and didn’t get either for months) you could just say it on your rosary by skipping a bunch of beads, and that’s what a lot of people did. That’s how many people prayed for Trump.

The Holy Face Chaplet is also a pretty neat prayer against evil. We also said the Lorica of St. Patrick every day, that’s another good one. The Lorica specifically prays for protection against spells of witches and wizards and pagandom.
 
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Wow, I didn’t know anything about this! Thank you Bear for letting us know about the Holy Face Chaplet. I found websites explaining how to pray the Chaplet, including the one with the free Chaplet which I’ll order. This devotion calls out to me and I’ll find a way to pray it using my regular Rosary.
 
You’ve been using the statement that “you believe” something quite a lot in this thread, but your beliefs are factually incorrect in this case. The Wiccan motto is not “do as thou wilt”. Try to understand the religion that you’re criticizing so drastically before you speak up about it.
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I do not make thoughtless or backless statements. Do not think I have not done my research.

Thelemites (similar to witches and wiccans) live by the Law of Freedom, “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.” There is also another variant of the rede that is: “That it harm none, do as thou wilt”. Of course not all witches live by this rule. Obviously they have a pretty relativistic sense of morale.
 
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It’s easy to do on a rosary, just say 6 beads per decade and skip the last 4. At the end of the chaplet you’re supposed to say the final prayer looking at a picture of Jesus’ Holy Face. The chaplets have his face on a medal, but if you are using a rosary, you can just look at a picture of his face that you like, or just close your eyes and imagine it.
 
No, Thelemites are not often Wiccans.

Just because you know what Thelema is doesn’t mean you’re correct. You’re equating two very different things.

Thelema is a separate religion.
Wicca is a separate religion.

How would you feel if people go around equating Islam to Catholicism?
 
Many wiccans incorporate the thelema philosophy into their own teachings. Not all witches are one and the same. But wiccans definitely have their roots in Thelema.

I would educate them on what Catholics teach. But that wouldn’t happen because Islam and Catholicism are not even barely remotely similar.
 
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this thread is straying into deep waters

i’ve seen a lot of posts i’d’ve never expected to see on a catholic message board
 
That’s great and all, Islam and Catholicism are Abrahamic religions (something that wasn’t lost on me) but any religion that denies Christ’s divinity and instead promotes a false prophet who used barbaric means to entice his followers by committing murder and rape are hardly similar.
 
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I don’t get it. Unless your target has a belief that your spell, ritual, etc. can actually do something, I don’t see how witchcraft can actually do anything to another person.

Given the folks I prosecute, if paganism, witchcraft, etc. had any power, I’d probably already be dead by now. You’d be amazed at the various pagan symbols I see with folks.
 
Exactly. So perhaps you can offer the same courtesy to two religions that are vastly different from each other (Thelema and Wicca)
 
…but they aren’t. Besides, why should I be courteous to a religion that God despises so much? Sorry, no. I will show no acceptance of such things.

As it is said in Kings 21:6:
He made his son pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and used divination, and dealt with mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord provoking Him to anger.
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Guess we’re done here. Silly of me to expect reciprocal decency, haha
 
I am showing the exact same amount of respect God does for witchcraft. Obviously I don’t dislike the people themselves. But in Catholicism, witchcraft is extremely dangerous and hurtful to Jesus. And that is who I’m defending.
 
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“Do what thou wilt. This shall be the law.” - Quote from Alister Crowley, not a Wiccan

“Do what thou will and harm ye none.” - Wiccan rule
 
Thank you for effectively proving my point. Not sure if that was your intention, though.

“Harm none” is an important distinction, no?

The lengths some of you guys are going to, to avoid being charitable towards other religions, is frankly astonishing and also very telling.
 
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