Modern Day Witches Call Theirs ‘A Beautiful Way Of Life’

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Curses are real præternatural phenomena.
In a way it may hurt the caster more than the target.

But we aren’t burning anyone at the stake. We just want them to turn from evil and falsehoods and turn to the Church.
 
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There actually are some people who identify as witches on this forum. Also, I don’t think common decency “doesn’t apply on a Catholic Forum”. You’re representing the Catholic faith here, which is all the more reason to conduct yourselves well. It’s the internet, everyone has access to this thread.
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I acknowledge that witches visit and are welcome to this forum. I also agree that common decency applies on this forum and in all areas of life.

I would not go to a pagan forum to discuss the 1st commandment and the errors of their beliefs. I do think it’s important for apologetics and evangelization that Catholics can discuss these subjects.

I was initiated into the Craft. I have been associated with various witchy groups. This is not kid’s stuff. Witches are not only a group of people who want to live peacefully, help others, not hurt anyone, respect nature, and love everyone. Spells have effects. Rituals have results.

Witches and other pagans believe they can control the natural world. “As above, so below” is common principle through much of the pagan world. It comes from ancient Hermenetics and is a guiding principle through magic and spells. Most witches practice some form of astrology, usually Egyptian. They often invoke or evoke spirits of the dead or animal spirits. Many witches practice divination. One friend of mine was very good with her crystal ball. I have never known a coven that put importance on chastity. Some incorporate sex acts into rituals.

Witchcraft is offensive to God. The bible warns us about involvement. It’s not a beautiful way of life.
 
Thanks for your perspective.
Did you happen to encounter any witches who were also Catholics or even Christians?
The article states that there are Christian witches, and I also hear about this from time to time, but with the exception of some forms of Carribean voodoo, I have never met a witch who was also involved with Christianity or even interested in doing that.
I have not met every witch out there however, so it seems possible there are some. What do you think?

(Please note I am just asking a question here and not advocating that Catholics run out and start practicing the craft, so no lectures necessary, thanks.)
 
Fascinating reading! Thank you for posting the link to this article.
 
Witchcraft is not compatible with Christianity.

I have met witches who self identify as Christians because they believe that Jesus existed. They don’t let that belief influence their other ideas or actions.
 
It does exist. Esoteric Christianity. The problem is that they see themselves as genuine christians who know secret deeper meanings of Jesus’ teachings and they don’t consider themselves witches at all.
 
Yes the gnostic church is where they get a lot of inspiration from. But they can even go further and ‘summon the energy of the elements’ and things like that, open up their ‘chakras’.
 
I’m aware; I was Neowiccan many years ago and also delved into many other neopagan religions such as Hellenic Polytheism and Kemeticism.
This is not kid’s stuff. Witches are not only a group of people who want to live peacefully, help others, not hurt anyone, respect nature, and love everyone. Spells have effects. Rituals have results.
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A large portion of the pagan community is actually in the teenager range. By and large, witches do want to live peacefully, help others, harm none, respect nature, love everyone. That’s why it’s so tiring to see these fear-mongering articles get brought up and some of the hatred a few (not all, by far) Catholics hold comes out of the woodworks and rears its ugly head.

We know, as Christians, witches are misplacing their efforts. But what I want people to acknowledge is that it is an unintentionally misplaced effort. Not some deliberate attack or rebelling against Christians, nothing like that. These are good people making a big mistake and the least we could do as Catholics is have the common decency not to misidentify their religion and ignore them.
 
It is not religious bigotry because Wicca is not a true religion. It is a practice that offends God. It is a practice dangerous to the immortal souls of people that God wants to be united with. It is a blatant rejection of almighty God and His will for us. We should be very clear about this. We should defend the truth. The practice of Wicca is an attack on the Church - the Catholic Church. It keeps people away from the true faith. “Tolerance” is unkind treatment for people who deserve to know the truth. The Catholic Church is very audacious on this point. It DOES claim to be the one true faith. We can either believe that, or not. I happen to believe it.
 
Exactly, it’s very dangerous. It’s about worshipping yourself. They say they don’t worship Satan. But Satan did not ask Adam and Eve to worship him, he told them to worship themselves. It’s pride in it’s extreme formulier. The rituals are dangerous, they can open you up to the demonic.
 
I don’t think the afterlife is going to be so beautiful for them. I know it is becoming a cliche, but again, the exorcists have spoken directly about the occult and Wicca, and this is what that is. The things the witches on the newsreels said sounded very benign and pretty, but the force behind all of this is anything but benign.

I felt my hair stand up when they were showing the pentagrams, and when they were chanting and dancing in a circle. Many poisonous things taste good and sweet, but they still bring death. There are sins out there that seem delightful at first, but unrepentanted, lead to spiritual death. I am quite sure humans aren’t the only things hanging out at that “church.”(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
 
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I read your comment, and it’s just you stating that having Priestesses is an intentional perversion of the Catholic Church and that they must therefore be doing that on purpose.

I fail to see the logic in that. Many religions had Priests and Priestesses, even before Abraham received his calling from God.
 
I think that we agree that many Wiccans and other pagans are unselfish and charitable, people. Many of them excel in natural virtue. From my very first post on this thread, “from a natural view their practices are good.”

The problem is that they lack supernatural or infused virtue. They lack the means to acquire grace, hence, they are lacking supernatural virtues.

Applying the Dionysian Principle of the Integral Good, we cannot say they are good people. A thing has to be all good to be considered good. It’s like saying, “The meal was great, but, the mashed potatoes were poisonous.”
 
Hiya MtnDwellar😊.I like your posts.

But concerning the practices of Wicca, I mean as ‘practioners’ of Wicca, is what I have a problem with. What they practice is spells that invoke any spirit come what may.

As humans being, they can be culpable in as much as God determines. As a former ‘practitioner’ I feel the distinction is necessary.
Your brother in Christ.
 
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Good article. The part about how Wicca is similar to “Catholicism without Christ” but is weakened by everybody sort of doing their own thing, including looking to support their own feminist or gay or whatever agendas, was also my impression.

It’s attractive because it has a sense of the supernatural and ritual that many in the Catholic Church seem to have been trying to bury over the last few decades…but without Christ, or any sort of strong central guiding principle really, it’s not so attractive. I’ve also gotten the impression that many people (at least the ones I know) who are involved with Wicca are in it just as much or more for the fellowship and social opportunities of going out to gatherings and having a nice time under the moon, than they are for the supernatural/ religious aspects.

Bottom line is I can look at this pagan stuff and given my ancestry/ culture it fits better than, say, Buddhism, but in the end the Catholic Church seems both truer to who I am as well as having truth in general, and one can get all the same spiritual stuff via Church practice only more, better and with less risk of an evil influence coming in through some open portal.

Fr. Heilman and others have written on how we have to actively reclaim the supernatural part of the Catholic faith that has fallen by the wayside and I have been working very hard on that over the last year. Not because I want to practice magic or see angels but because there truly is a supernatural aspect or connection or force in play when you practice Catholicism seriously. We have a priest changing bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ, just as one example.
 
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Satan makes witchcraft/Wicca attractive with TV shows like Bewitched and Charmed and movies like all the Harry Potters. Many people are pulled in by them. There are many book stores that cater to the pagan/Wiccan/New Age crowd.

While they may think theirs is “a beautiful way of life,” it will lead them straight to Hell if they don’t wake up and turn away from their sin. Anyone who contemplates that lifestyle needs to rethink their decision because Satan is alive and working in these people and the materials and things they promote.

Don’t get involved in it. It’s not worth the price of your immortal soul.
 
I think it must be said that witchcraft being forbidden is not just a Catholic Church teaching, or a Roman obsession against witches. It is from the Bible:
Deuteronomy - chapter 18:
9 When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the Lord your God.
So Pagan witches I understand but… Christian witches? Just because they are baptized people practicing witchcraft does not mean they are Christian witches. It is the same as one identifying themselves as Christian + other sin. Who says for example - “I am a Christian liar”? :confused:
As long as they realize that their practices are Pagan (and most of them I think they do, online I have met only witches who consider themselves Pagan, they are not interested in Christianity to say the least) they are realistic.
Many of them are atheist in the sense that they worship more like elements and certain old figures mostly women, they respect the planet and are interested in ecology and such. They have no respect for demons either and are sure that demons are just a type of energy misunderstood by Jews and Christians. And usually they think “the Bible is just one book there are many others.”
But when we discuss “Christian witches” we talk about something else. We talk about a Christian who may be using Divine energies they get from communion or Holy devotional objects in ways God made it clear in the Bible He does not approve of. We have to explain to them that they are wrong if they define themselves as Christians, they have an obligation to know any better.
Plus the way out of it is not that hard. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Church considers witchcraft a sin. and like any sin it can confessed and there are canons to be followed to achieve forgiveness.
 
Any religion that thinks it’s acceptable to harm others by casting spells is not a good one. Any religion that does not involve Jesus is not a good one. False can never be okay or “beautiful” because they don’t have the humble beauty of Jesus or Mary.
 
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