Mom had tubes tied

[Smber2c]

The OP said:
Am I wrong to feel this way about a decision that didn’t involve me, but nonetheless hurts anyway? God Bless.

Looks like a question to me. So much for "hypocracy’ unless your definition of hypocracy is “anyone who disagrees with me”

Estesbob, you make my exact point for me. The OP asked "Am I wrong to feel tthis way about a decision that didn’t involve me, but nonethelsee hurts anyway? "

So he therefore asked for our opinion on the validity of his feelings about his mother’s choice. He did **not **ask anyone to comment on his revealing this situation to friends while asking for their prayers.

What many posters, including yourself, have done is assumed the right to comment on this action just because he mentioned this action.

Me? I’m okay with your doing that. It was a bad decision. He shouldn’t have shared it. But then again, I don’t think there was a problem with his telling him mom she shouldn’t have gotten her tubes tied.

It is the same situation. It is hypocracy.

#1
Mom told OP about a bad decision, and didn’t ask for feed back.
OP gave feed back b/c mom seemingly didn’t understand it was wrong.

#2
OP told you about a bad decision, and didn’t ask for feed back.
You gave feed back b/c OP seemingly didn’t understand it was wrong.

Can you honestly say that this isn’t the same thing?

Can you really say #1 is wrong and #2 is right? I understand emotions are involved, and so people should be gentle, but truth is truth.

 

[estesbob]

Estesbob, you make my exact point for me. The OP asked "Am I wrong to feel tthis way about a decision that didn’t involve me, but nonethelsee hurts anyway? "

So he therefore asked for our opinion on the validity of his feelings about his mother’s choice. He did **not **ask anyone to comment on his revealing this situation to friends while asking for their prayers.

What many posters, including yourself, have done is assumed the right to comment on this action just because he mentioned this action.

Me? I’m okay with your doing that. It was a bad decision. He shouldn’t have shared it. But then again, I don’t think there was a problem with his telling him mom she shouldn’t have gotten her tubes tied.

It is the same situation. It is hypocracy.

#1
Mom told OP about a bad decision, and didn’t ask for feed back.
OP gave feed back b/c mom seemingly didn’t understand it was wrong.

#2
OP told you about a bad decision, and didn’t ask for feed back.
You gave feed back b/c OP seemingly didn’t understand it was wrong.

Can you honestly say that this isn’t the same thing?

Can you really say #1 is wrong and #2 is right? I understand emotions are involved, and so people should be gentle, but truth is truth.

When it takes as much convoluted verbiage as you just used to try and make a bogus point one knows you cant prove your point. The OP asked for our opinion-we gave it. I , OTH , NEVER asked you your opinion on what i posted SO are you a hyprocrite for replying to me???

 

[SMHW]

I have just a few comments which have mostly been stated before.

1. 
   *]It can be very painful to learn that a loved one has done something that you know to be sinful.
   *]It is good to ask others to pray for a loved one.
   *]Children have certain rights and obligations to express concerns to their parents about the faults of the parents…privately.
   *]To honor his parents it is preferable that the child not publicly mention the faults of the parents…even if those faults are known to others.
   *]Mutilation of the body for the purposes of contraception is wrong.
   *]Avoidance of pregnancy if the mother’s life/health is in jeopardy is allowed, even encouraged, by the Church.
   *]The only allowable method of avoiding pregnancy is by (periodic) abstinence.

 

[Nicole]

Hello,

Right now, I am going through a difficult time. I just found out a few weeks ago that my mom had her tubes tied after I was born.

Uh, Cam says right here that he just found this out. That is why I’m inclined to give him a break. He just found something out that has hurt him and caused him to grieve. If he had posted that he keeps bringing this up over and over for years, well maybe then I’d say, gee, your Mom may have done the best she could even though she made a wrong choice and perhaps it’s time to try to forgive. But I say, yes him Mom deserves mercy and no one knows exactly what was going through her mind when this happened, but what about mercy for Cam who just found this out? It works both ways. Instead many people seem to be advocating mercy for Cam’s Mom but hammering him for one, his reaction, and two, the fact that he told his roomates.

I can understand his feelings and also, as a parent, I can understand how hard it is to have made mistakes that affect things for the rest of your life. It’s not an either or proposition here, mercy can be shown to both parties.

 

[gmarie21]

#1
Mom told OP about a bad decision, and didn’t ask for feed back.
OP gave feed back b/c mom seemingly didn’t understand it was wrong.

No, OP told mom his opinion on contraceptives. She in return shared the details on why she had her tubes tied (which he had no prior knowledge about the tubes being tied or the reason for the tying of her tubes). So actually, he made a statement, the OP’s mom gave feedback to OP. She didn’t bring up contraceptives, he did.

 

[Smber2c]

When it takes as much convoluted verbiage as you just used to try and make a bogus point one knows you cant prove your point. The OP asked for our opinion-we gave it. I , OTH , NEVER asked you your opinion on what i posted SO are you a hyprocrite for replying to me???

Okay, so I’ve made a point. You see it. You can’t refute it. I understand, your trouble accepting it.

Oh, and I’m not being a hypocrit. Try the little model I provied above with my comments, it won’t fit correctly.

I’m not saying you’re bad or dumb.

I am saying **you’re doing **just what you are telling him not to do.
AKA - doing something hypocritical

You are saying that **I’m doing **the same thing I said that he should do.
AKA - not at all hypocritical

 

[mesquite_magic]

Okay, so I’ve made a point. You see it. You can’t refute it. I understand, your trouble accepting it.

Oh, and I’m not being a hypocrit. Try the little model I provied above with my comments, it won’t fit correctly.

I’m not saying you’re bad or dumb.

I am saying **you’re doing **just what you are telling him not to do.
AKA - doing something hypocritical

You are saying that **I’m doing **the same thing I said that he should do.
AKA - not at all hypocritical

Both of you are being ridiculous! Any time someone posts on any board, they should be prepared for statements they don’t like. All of this back and forth psyco-babble is giving me a headache.

Kim

 

[Zelie_Louis]

The bickering on this thread is neither productive or charitable.

Thread closed.